Pelosi bans smoking ( i agree)

farfromglorified

The Illinoisemakers wrote:

You surprise me Mr. Whore. If anyone here would be against those filthy bastards I thought it would be you. For the simple fact that we consumers end up footing the bill when insurance premiums go up because of their disgusting and ultimately fatal habit.

Perhaps if the government goons got out of the way, insurance companies could legally bar you from getting insurance simply because you smoke. Furthermore, those goons often cap maximum rates, so they're not allowed to simply charge those "filthy bastards" the maximum for their own habit.

Insurance sucks, but government rules have made it far, far worse.

The Illinoisemakers

farfromglorified wrote:

Perhaps if the government goons got out of the way, insurance companies could legally bar you from getting insurance simply because you smoke. Furthermore, those goons often cap maximum rates, so they're not allowed to simply charge those "filthy bastards" the maximum for their own habit.

Insurance sucks, but government rules have made it far, far worse.

I whole heartedly agree with you. Insurance companies are the biggest crooks out there, and gov't medling with them only makes it worse.

Ahnimus

Not that I'm trying to undermine the thread, but I think farting, perfume, cologne, southern accents, chalkboards, and feminism should also be banned.

Pearl Jam and toast

Ahnimus wrote:

Not that I'm trying to undermine the thread, but I think farting, perfume, cologne, southern accents, chalkboards, and feminism should also be banned.

Yeah but all of those things (except possibly chalkboards) are great in moderation

yiorgis

DOSW wrote:

I see what you're saying... I have to deal with smokers and their horrible stench and wrinkly faces all the time... but it's not a habit, it's an addiction. It takes an extreme amount of willpower (which most people don't have) to be able to quit. You shouldn't hate them for not being able to do something (quit smoking) that most people physically can't do.

I pity them more than I hate them. Smoking is just a repulsive thing to do to yourself and others. And my god, that smell...

i am a fanatic smoker, but i agree that we must respect non-smokers.They are not obligated to breathe the smoke from our cigars.It's an addiction it's true,but you must not pity on us because it's not the only addiction in our lifes.There are many addictions-maybe less harmless- but very difficult to quit

onelongsong

why is it that people will breathe exhaust without a second thought; yet worry about a little second hand smoke?

1970RR

The Illinoisemakers wrote:

You surprise me Mr. Whore. If anyone here would be against those filthy bastards I thought it would be you. For the simple fact that we consumers end up footing the bill when insurance premiums go up because of their disgusting and ultimately fatal habit.

Wouldnt the expenses associated with their dying at an earlier age be cancelled out by the expenses (primarily social security) that would be used over the years, had they lived to a ripe old age? Everyone dies at some point & it usually involves a lot of medical expense, regardless of cause - its just happening sooner with smokers.

onelongsong

1970RR wrote:

Wouldnt the expenses associated with their dying at an earlier age be cancelled out by the expenses (primarily social security) that would be used over the years, had they lived to a ripe old age? Everyone dies at some point & it usually involves a lot of medical expense, regardless of cause - its just happening sooner with smokers.

i come from a family of smokers with one grandmother starting at 10. the youngest death came at 93 years old. my grandfather is 96 and going strong.

even flow?

onelongsong wrote:

i come from a family of smokers with one grandmother starting at 10. the youngest death came at 93 years old. my grandfather is 96 and going strong.

why is it that people will breathe exhaust without a second thought; yet worry about a little second hand smoke?

My lord I actually agree 100% with you on the exhaust comment. But you have to agree that there is no better feeling in the world to be on a jam packed highway, stopped in traffic, smoke lit and as you take a drag you are daydreaming while looking through the yellow/brown haze of the exhaust.

On the other comment. Now they don't just use tobacco to make ciggies like in the good old days. When they were good for you.

callen

CorporateWhore wrote:

I do support the right of people to kill themselves by smoking, though I don't support the right to kill other people by second-hand smoke.

Smoking in public indoor places is harmful to the health of others. We're not asking for that smoke in our faces and we don't want it.

I'm a non smoker..and have problems leaving an establishment reaking of smoke and having to leave my clothes outside before going in the house...but I draw the line at banning smoking outdoors. Even at entry/exits to buildings...what you folks think???

yield2me

onelongsong wrote:

why is it that people will breathe exhaust without a second thought; yet worry about a little second hand smoke?

Or eat a quarter pounder and supersized fries without a second thought. The truth is that is more harmful than smoking will ever be!

Ericastrada

even flow? wrote:

My lord I actually agree 100% with you on the exhaust comment. But you have to agree that there is no better feeling in the world to be on a jam packed highway, stopped in traffic, smoke lit and as you take a drag you are daydreaming while looking through the yellow/brown haze of the exhaust.

On the other comment. Now they don't just use tobacco to make ciggies like in the good old days. When they were good for you.

My cigs are made out of only tobacco. 100% organic tobacco actually. No additives, no fillers.

Pearl Jam and toast

yield2me wrote:

Or eat a quarter pounder and supersized fries without a second thought. The truth is that is more harmful than smoking will ever be!

very very true.

ericestrada wrote:

My cigs are made out of only tobacco. 100% organic tobacco actually. No additives, no fillers.

You smoke Spirits too? :cool:

Ericastrada

Pearl Jam and toast wrote:

You smoke Spirits too? :cool:

Nothing but the best.

Pearl Jam and toast

Ericastrada wrote:

Nothing but the best.

oi!

I have to admit to smoking Djarums (cloves) as well... tasty fuckers.

onelongsong

callen wrote:

I'm a non smoker..and have problems leaving an establishment reaking of smoke and having to leave my clothes outside before going in the house...but I draw the line at banning smoking outdoors. Even at entry/exits to buildings...what you folks think???

i agree. i'm a smoker who'd like to quit but hasn't been able to. i was in the hospital with IVs in both arms and asked where i can smoke. i was told it's a smoke free campus and couldn't smoke anywhere. so i proceded to leave the property and was stopped at the door. i told them where i was going and what i planned on doing. after a few minutes a security guard showed up to escort me to my room. i let him know i spent 8 hours in emergency and 2 hours in the room and i'd have him by the throat before he could get near his pepper spray. by that time a doctor walked up and told everyone to let me go have a cigarette. 4 hours later i walked outside to find 3 other people standing outside on the corner in hospital gowns and robes smoking. to this day you can drive by that hospital and see people standing outside smoking.
i still can't see why it would be so difficult to dedicate 1 room as a smoking lounge; but i wouldn't argue with someone having a nocotine fit.