U.S troops kill 13

miller8966

BAGHDAD, Iraq Nov 3, 2006 (AP)-- U.S. troops killed 13 suspected insurgents in a raid south of Baghdad early Friday, the military said.

Troops were acting on intelligence reports saying a suspect with links to al-Qaida in Iraq was in the building in Muqdadiyah, 60 miles north of Baghdad, the military said.

The building was surrounded and stormed after those inside did not respond to demands to surrender, the military said in a statement e-mailed to media. Five people were killed inside the building, including one man wearing a vest rigged with explosives, while eight other men who fled were gunned down by troops on the ground and planes or helicopters circling above, the report said.

Several of those killed appeared to have been foreign fighters from outside Iraq, the report said. The report did not say if there were any American casualties in the raid.

Explosives, hand grenades and other explosive-rigged vests used by suicide bombers were discovered in a search of the area, the report said.

Also Friday, U.S. National Intelligence Director John Negroponte was in Baghdad for previously unannounced talks with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, the Iraqi leader's office and Iraqi state television said.

The Negroponte visit comes five days after National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley paid an unannounced visit as tensions in the U.S.-Iraqi relationship surfaced.

The television gave no other details and U.S. Embassy officials were not immediately available for comment. Yassin Majid, the prime minister's spokesman, said the two men were in meetings in the Iraqi leader's office in Baghdad's heavily fortified Green Zone.

Earlier Friday, the U.S. military announced the deaths of three soldiers in Baghdad and a Marine in the western province of Anbar.

A brief statement said the three soldiers died Thursday when the vehicle they were riding in was struck by a roadside bomb at 2:15 p.m. in eastern Baghdad. It gave no other details.

Meanwhile, a blood-drenched October has passed into a violent early November as a motorcycle rigged with explosives ripped through a crowded Shiite market in Sadr City on Thursday and suspected Sunni insurgent gunmen killed a Shiite dean of Baghdad University.

The attacks showed no signs of abating after at least 1,272 Iraqis were killed in the first full month of autumn and the 43rd month of the U.S. bid to quell violence and build democracy in Iraq, according to an Associated Press count. The figure is a minimum since many deaths go unreported, but the total is higher than any other month since the AP began keeping track in May 2005.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=2625953

John Budge

Does this mean the war is a success?

norm

Is this supposed to be a good thing?

jeffbr

cutback wrote:

Is this supposed to be a good thing?

If they were al-Qaida, then yes, it is a good thing. I'm happy that fucker wearing explosives is no longer a threat. I hate that we're in Iraq and I'd love to see us leave today, but if we have to be there I'm glad we're taking out the trash once in awhile.

jlew24asu

cutback wrote:

Is this supposed to be a good thing?

yes. these fighters, typically are only interested in straping bombs to their chest and setting them off at a mosque or public market or iraqi police station. killing them before they kill us or innocent civillians is a good thing. this may deter some from stepping in their place. it might not. but it might.

Dirty Mosquito

jlew24asu wrote:

yes. these fighters, typically are only interested in straping bombs to their chest and setting them off at a mosque or public market or iraqi police station. killing them before they kill us or innocent civillians is a good thing. this may deter some from stepping in their place. it might not. but it might.

Is this the same intelligence that said there was weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?? Just curious??

jlew24asu

Dirty Mosquito wrote:

Is this the same intelligence that said there was weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?? Just curious??

what?

Dirty Mosquito

jlew24asu wrote:

what?

Sorry, my point didn't really go with your post. My point was that the original poster posted the article which stated that intelligence said that these were terrorists. My point was, is this the same intelligence that said there was weapons of mass destruction. Meaning, shouldn't we question where we get our info from since the history of this intelligence has been less than accurate. Just an observation.. I am not saying that they weren't Taliban or terrorists or anyone evil.

Puck78

jlew24asu wrote:

yes. these fighters, typically are only interested in straping bombs to their chest and setting them off at a mosque or public market or iraqi police station. killing them before they kill us or innocent civillians is a good thing. this may deter some from stepping in their place. it might not. but it might.

"typically"?
If you have to base killing in "typically".......

jlew24asu

Puck78 wrote:

"typically"?
If you have to base killing in "typically".......

well they "typically" arent handling out food to the homeless. sorry you missed my generalzation of a terrorist

Eliot Rosewater

miller8966 wrote:

BAGHDAD, Iraq Nov 3, 2006 (AP)-- U.S. troops killed 13 suspected insurgents in a raid south of Baghdad early Friday, the military said.

Troops were acting on intelligence reports saying a suspect with links to al-Qaida in Iraq was in the building in Muqdadiyah, 60 miles north of Baghdad, the military said.

The building was surrounded and stormed after those inside did not respond to demands to surrender, the military said in a statement e-mailed to media. Five people were killed inside the building, including one man wearing a vest rigged with explosives, while eight other men who fled were gunned down by troops on the ground and planes or helicopters circling above, the report said.

Several of those killed appeared to have been foreign fighters from outside Iraq, the report said. The report did not say if there were any American casualties in the raid.

Explosives, hand grenades and other explosive-rigged vests used by suicide bombers were discovered in a search of the area, the report said.

Also Friday, U.S. National Intelligence Director John Negroponte was in Baghdad for previously unannounced talks with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, the Iraqi leader's office and Iraqi state television said.

The Negroponte visit comes five days after National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley paid an unannounced visit as tensions in the U.S.-Iraqi relationship surfaced.

The television gave no other details and U.S. Embassy officials were not immediately available for comment. Yassin Majid, the prime minister's spokesman, said the two men were in meetings in the Iraqi leader's office in Baghdad's heavily fortified Green Zone.

Earlier Friday, the U.S. military announced the deaths of three soldiers in Baghdad and a Marine in the western province of Anbar.

A brief statement said the three soldiers died Thursday when the vehicle they were riding in was struck by a roadside bomb at 2:15 p.m. in eastern Baghdad. It gave no other details.

Meanwhile, a blood-drenched October has passed into a violent early November as a motorcycle rigged with explosives ripped through a crowded Shiite market in Sadr City on Thursday and suspected Sunni insurgent gunmen killed a Shiite dean of Baghdad University.

The attacks showed no signs of abating after at least 1,272 Iraqis were killed in the first full month of autumn and the 43rd month of the U.S. bid to quell violence and build democracy in Iraq, according to an Associated Press count. The figure is a minimum since many deaths go unreported, but the total is higher than any other month since the AP began keeping track in May 2005.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=2625953

Bullshit.

Eliot Rosewater

jlew24asu wrote:

it might not. but it might.

Yeah, that sounds like good, sound reason for taking human life.

jlew24asu

don't gimme no wrote:

Yeah, that sounds like good, sound reason for taking human life.

glad you broke it down to 4 words of my reasoning why we should kill terrorists.

jlew24asu

don't gimme no wrote:

Bullshit.

were you the captain of your high school debating team?

hairpants

jlew24asu wrote:

were you the captain of your high school debating team?

ha!

RockinInCanada

"Everybody's going to the party have a real good time
Dancing in the desert blowing up the sunshine"

WOOOOOOOOOOOO 13 dead terrorists....I smell a comeback.....is the tide finally turing in this war.....?

jlew24asu

Puck78 wrote:

"typically"?
If you have to base killing in "typically".......

Five people were killed inside the building, including one man wearing a vest rigged with explosives, while eight other men who fled were gunned down by troops on the ground and planes or helicopters circling above. Several of those killed appeared to have been foreign fighters from outside Iraq, the report said. The report did not say if there were any American casualties in the raid.

Explosives, hand grenades and other explosive-rigged vests used by homicide bombers were discovered in a search of the area

Eliot Rosewater

jlew24asu wrote:

were you the captain of your high school debating team?

I'm saying that the story is very likely bullshit. Just as so many others about this bullshit war are. My best friend and some people in his company were shot at a couple of weeks ago while flying a mission - one guy was hit but not fatally. They followed orders to a T. When they got back to the base, the rest of the company had already been briefed on the mission and they were told that the reason they took fire is because they weren't following orders and they were "sight-seeing" rather than flying the mission. It's bullshit. People aren't being told the truth. That includes you and that includes me.

Eliot Rosewater

jlew24asu wrote:

glad you broke it down to 4 words of my reasoning why we should kill terrorists.

Well, that's the bottom line, isn't it? The fact that even your opinion, which isn't supported by the majority of the population, is based on the fact that it is as likely to not work as it is to work.....shouldn't that say something? The little value you place on human life saddens me. Plus, reality is that we're only making things worse, whether we're killing those supposed terrorists or not. The United States has made it's citizens and the human race far less safe over the last 5+ years.

ThumbingMyWay32

don't gimme no wrote:

Yeah, that sounds like good, sound reason for taking human life.

If these terrorist would have detonated those explosives in the middle of a market killing 100 people would you have the same vitriol against them taking human life?

miller8966

don't gimme no wrote:

I'm saying that the story is very likely bullshit. Just as so many others about this bullshit war are. My best friend and some people in his company were shot at a couple of weeks ago while flying a mission - one guy was hit but not fatally. They followed orders to a T. When they got back to the base, the rest of the company had already been briefed on the mission and they were told that the reason they took fire is because they weren't following orders and they were "sight-seeing" rather than flying the mission. It's bullshit. People aren't being told the truth. That includes you and that includes me.

How is it bullshit? whenever the government releases good info its bullshit, yet whenever its bad news particularly about republicans its "omg look what their doing now!"