U.S troops kill 13

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edited November 2006 in A Moving Train
BAGHDAD, Iraq Nov 3, 2006 (AP)-- U.S. troops killed 13 suspected insurgents in a raid south of Baghdad early Friday, the military said.

Troops were acting on intelligence reports saying a suspect with links to al-Qaida in Iraq was in the building in Muqdadiyah, 60 miles north of Baghdad, the military said.

The building was surrounded and stormed after those inside did not respond to demands to surrender, the military said in a statement e-mailed to media. Five people were killed inside the building, including one man wearing a vest rigged with explosives, while eight other men who fled were gunned down by troops on the ground and planes or helicopters circling above, the report said.

Several of those killed appeared to have been foreign fighters from outside Iraq, the report said. The report did not say if there were any American casualties in the raid.

Explosives, hand grenades and other explosive-rigged vests used by suicide bombers were discovered in a search of the area, the report said.

Also Friday, U.S. National Intelligence Director John Negroponte was in Baghdad for previously unannounced talks with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, the Iraqi leader's office and Iraqi state television said.

The Negroponte visit comes five days after National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley paid an unannounced visit as tensions in the U.S.-Iraqi relationship surfaced.

The television gave no other details and U.S. Embassy officials were not immediately available for comment. Yassin Majid, the prime minister's spokesman, said the two men were in meetings in the Iraqi leader's office in Baghdad's heavily fortified Green Zone.

Earlier Friday, the U.S. military announced the deaths of three soldiers in Baghdad and a Marine in the western province of Anbar.

A brief statement said the three soldiers died Thursday when the vehicle they were riding in was struck by a roadside bomb at 2:15 p.m. in eastern Baghdad. It gave no other details.

Meanwhile, a blood-drenched October has passed into a violent early November as a motorcycle rigged with explosives ripped through a crowded Shiite market in Sadr City on Thursday and suspected Sunni insurgent gunmen killed a Shiite dean of Baghdad University.

The attacks showed no signs of abating after at least 1,272 Iraqis were killed in the first full month of autumn and the 43rd month of the U.S. bid to quell violence and build democracy in Iraq, according to an Associated Press count. The figure is a minimum since many deaths go unreported, but the total is higher than any other month since the AP began keeping track in May 2005.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=2625953
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  • Does this mean the war is a success?
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    Is this supposed to be a good thing?
  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    cutback wrote:
    Is this supposed to be a good thing?

    If they were al-Qaida, then yes, it is a good thing. I'm happy that fucker wearing explosives is no longer a threat. I hate that we're in Iraq and I'd love to see us leave today, but if we have to be there I'm glad we're taking out the trash once in awhile.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    cutback wrote:
    Is this supposed to be a good thing?


    yes. these fighters, typically are only interested in straping bombs to their chest and setting them off at a mosque or public market or iraqi police station. killing them before they kill us or innocent civillians is a good thing. this may deter some from stepping in their place. it might not. but it might.
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    yes. these fighters, typically are only interested in straping bombs to their chest and setting them off at a mosque or public market or iraqi police station. killing them before they kill us or innocent civillians is a good thing. this may deter some from stepping in their place. it might not. but it might.

    Is this the same intelligence that said there was weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?? Just curious??
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Is this the same intelligence that said there was weapons of mass destruction in Iraq?? Just curious??

    what?
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    what?

    Sorry, my point didn't really go with your post. My point was that the original poster posted the article which stated that intelligence said that these were terrorists. My point was, is this the same intelligence that said there was weapons of mass destruction. Meaning, shouldn't we question where we get our info from since the history of this intelligence has been less than accurate. Just an observation.. I am not saying that they weren't Taliban or terrorists or anyone evil.
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  • Puck78Puck78 Posts: 737
    jlew24asu wrote:
    yes. these fighters, typically are only interested in straping bombs to their chest and setting them off at a mosque or public market or iraqi police station. killing them before they kill us or innocent civillians is a good thing. this may deter some from stepping in their place. it might not. but it might.
    "typically"?
    If you have to base killing in "typically".......
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Puck78 wrote:
    "typically"?
    If you have to base killing in "typically".......


    well they "typically" arent handling out food to the homeless. sorry you missed my generalzation of a terrorist
  • miller8966 wrote:
    BAGHDAD, Iraq Nov 3, 2006 (AP)-- U.S. troops killed 13 suspected insurgents in a raid south of Baghdad early Friday, the military said.

    Troops were acting on intelligence reports saying a suspect with links to al-Qaida in Iraq was in the building in Muqdadiyah, 60 miles north of Baghdad, the military said.

    The building was surrounded and stormed after those inside did not respond to demands to surrender, the military said in a statement e-mailed to media. Five people were killed inside the building, including one man wearing a vest rigged with explosives, while eight other men who fled were gunned down by troops on the ground and planes or helicopters circling above, the report said.

    Several of those killed appeared to have been foreign fighters from outside Iraq, the report said. The report did not say if there were any American casualties in the raid.

    Explosives, hand grenades and other explosive-rigged vests used by suicide bombers were discovered in a search of the area, the report said.

    Also Friday, U.S. National Intelligence Director John Negroponte was in Baghdad for previously unannounced talks with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, the Iraqi leader's office and Iraqi state television said.

    The Negroponte visit comes five days after National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley paid an unannounced visit as tensions in the U.S.-Iraqi relationship surfaced.

    The television gave no other details and U.S. Embassy officials were not immediately available for comment. Yassin Majid, the prime minister's spokesman, said the two men were in meetings in the Iraqi leader's office in Baghdad's heavily fortified Green Zone.

    Earlier Friday, the U.S. military announced the deaths of three soldiers in Baghdad and a Marine in the western province of Anbar.

    A brief statement said the three soldiers died Thursday when the vehicle they were riding in was struck by a roadside bomb at 2:15 p.m. in eastern Baghdad. It gave no other details.

    Meanwhile, a blood-drenched October has passed into a violent early November as a motorcycle rigged with explosives ripped through a crowded Shiite market in Sadr City on Thursday and suspected Sunni insurgent gunmen killed a Shiite dean of Baghdad University.

    The attacks showed no signs of abating after at least 1,272 Iraqis were killed in the first full month of autumn and the 43rd month of the U.S. bid to quell violence and build democracy in Iraq, according to an Associated Press count. The figure is a minimum since many deaths go unreported, but the total is higher than any other month since the AP began keeping track in May 2005.

    http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=2625953
    Bullshit.
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    it might not. but it might.
    Yeah, that sounds like good, sound reason for taking human life.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Yeah, that sounds like good, sound reason for taking human life.


    glad you broke it down to 4 words of my reasoning why we should kill terrorists.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Bullshit.


    were you the captain of your high school debating team?
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    were you the captain of your high school debating team?

    ha!

    ;)
    fuck the public
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    WOOOOOOOOOOOO 13 dead terrorists....I smell a comeback.....is the tide finally turing in this war.....?
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Puck78 wrote:
    "typically"?
    If you have to base killing in "typically".......

    Five people were killed inside the building, including one man wearing a vest rigged with explosives, while eight other men who fled were gunned down by troops on the ground and planes or helicopters circling above. Several of those killed appeared to have been foreign fighters from outside Iraq, the report said. The report did not say if there were any American casualties in the raid.

    Explosives, hand grenades and other explosive-rigged vests used by homicide bombers were discovered in a search of the area
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    were you the captain of your high school debating team?
    I'm saying that the story is very likely bullshit. Just as so many others about this bullshit war are. My best friend and some people in his company were shot at a couple of weeks ago while flying a mission - one guy was hit but not fatally. They followed orders to a T. When they got back to the base, the rest of the company had already been briefed on the mission and they were told that the reason they took fire is because they weren't following orders and they were "sight-seeing" rather than flying the mission. It's bullshit. People aren't being told the truth. That includes you and that includes me.
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    glad you broke it down to 4 words of my reasoning why we should kill terrorists.
    Well, that's the bottom line, isn't it? The fact that even your opinion, which isn't supported by the majority of the population, is based on the fact that it is as likely to not work as it is to work.....shouldn't that say something? The little value you place on human life saddens me. Plus, reality is that we're only making things worse, whether we're killing those supposed terrorists or not. The United States has made it's citizens and the human race far less safe over the last 5+ years.
  • Yeah, that sounds like good, sound reason for taking human life.


    If these terrorist would have detonated those explosives in the middle of a market killing 100 people would you have the same vitriol against them taking human life?
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  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    I'm saying that the story is very likely bullshit. Just as so many others about this bullshit war are. My best friend and some people in his company were shot at a couple of weeks ago while flying a mission - one guy was hit but not fatally. They followed orders to a T. When they got back to the base, the rest of the company had already been briefed on the mission and they were told that the reason they took fire is because they weren't following orders and they were "sight-seeing" rather than flying the mission. It's bullshit. People aren't being told the truth. That includes you and that includes me.

    How is it bullshit? whenever the government releases good info its bullshit, yet whenever its bad news particularly about republicans its "omg look what their doing now!"
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  • miller8966 wrote:
    How is it bullshit? whenever the government releases good info its bullshit, yet whenever its bad news particularly about republicans its "omg look what their doing now!"
    Miller, Miller, Miller, You know the vast majority of the U.S. Media is Ultra-Conservative. I have to question the reports that favor conservatives a bit more than all others. Is that so wrong?
  • Purple HawkPurple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    Miller, Miller, Miller, You know the vast majority of the U.S. Media is Ultra-Conservative. I have to question the reports that favor conservatives a bit more than all others. Is that so wrong?

    do you think katie couric is ultra conservative? brian williams is ultra-conservative? whatever assjack is on abc? are you paying attention????

    look at the limbaugh vs. kerry bias. limbaugh, a fat talk show host does not make fun of someone, but his actions are distorted...yet, an actual member of hte Senate SAYS something, and couric, williams, and all the rest help us interpret what he actually meant. hell, you don't need 1000 posts on synergy to know what liberals think of the education levels of the military. all you need to do is listen to army reserve, the most denegrating song i've ever heard.

    there are two medias emerging....one for the right, and one for the left. and that's fine...let's just not pretend anymore.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Miller, Miller, Miller, You know the vast majority of the U.S. Media is Ultra-Conservative. I have to question the reports that favor conservatives a bit more than all others. Is that so wrong?


    wow vast majority?
  • Purple HawkPurple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    jlew24asu wrote:
    wow vast majority?

    seriously...i'd like to hear names.

    again...rush limbaugh, a non elected official, says somehting, and the media distorts it for a week, and that's news.

    then you have a member of the US senate...making a statement...then, the media saying that that's not what he meant...

    seriously???
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