Myspace to blame for colorado shooting

miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
edited September 2006 in A Moving Train
According to fellow poster dunkman guns are to blame for the school shooting..which i agree that a gun was used in the school shooting that left an innocent teenager dead. But the main source of the pre-conceived murder was Myspace.com...should myspaced be banned now in america? Huh Dunkman?

BAILEY, Colorado (CNN) -- The gunman who shot and killed a high school student after holding her and five other girls hostage had asked for students by name, a Colorado county sheriff said Friday.

Duane Morrison, who killed himself after fatally shooting Emily Keyes, 16, molested all six girls, said Park County Sheriff Fred Wegener. The sheriff didn't know "how much or to what degree."

Morrison had gone up to a male student and asked about the identities of "a list of female students," Wegener said. He didn't know which, if any, of the girls he took hostage in a classroom were on that list.

Investigators were aware of rumors that Morrison may have researched his victims on MySpace.com, an online community that allows users to post personal pages and network with friends, Wegener said.
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  • Yep, ban it. :)
    Banning solves all the world's problems ...
  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    I agree...lets also ban the internet. Cause he couldnt have used myspace without it...
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  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    Anybody stupid enough to put their real identities for the world to see. Well you know the rest!
    You've changed your place in this world!
  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    even flow? wrote:
    Anybody stupid enough to put their real identities for the world to see. Well you know the rest!

    ok....i dont get it
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  • miller8966 wrote:
    I agree...lets also ban the internet. Cause he couldnt have used myspace without it...

    And you couldn't use the internet without ... Computers.
  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    If we just banned computer monitors, I think it would solve this problem.
  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    And you couldn't use the internet without ... Computers.

    Or should we ban fingers?
  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    I say we go back to using carrier pigeons... I mean that worked well didn't it???
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  • You can't actually kill someone with a website. It's virtual. It's not physical, and no real bullets come out of it. Honest. (If they did, I'd have shot some of you fuckers long ago. :D) But you can kill someone with guns.

    Logic's a wonderful thing, innit? ;)
  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    You can't actually kill someone with a website. It's virtual. It's not physical, and no real bullets come out of it. Honest. (If they did, I'd have shot some of you fuckers long ago. :D) But you can kill someone with guns.

    Logic's a wonderful thing, innit? ;)

    You can kill someone with a computer though. So, by using logic, they should be banned.
  • You can't actually kill someone with a website. It's virtual. It's not physical, and no real bullets come out of it. Honest. (If they did, I'd have shot some of you fuckers long ago. :D) But you can kill someone with guns.

    Logic's a wonderful thing, innit? ;)

    Well yes, it is a wonderful thing. You cannot kill a specific person with a gun if you cannot find them, either. Hmm?

    (I am mostly just playing along here, but there is a good point buried in all the silliness).
  • Byrnzie wrote:
    Or should we ban fingers?

    And the attached hands. After all, you can strangle people with hands and fingers.
  • Well yes, it is a wonderful thing. You cannot kill a specific person with a gun if you cannot find them, either. Hmm?

    (I am mostly just playing along here, but there is a good point buried in all the silliness).

    Well, I say they should ban schools in Colorado, then. ;)
  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    You can't actually kill someone with a website. It's virtual. It's not physical, and no real bullets come out of it. Honest. (If they did, I'd have shot some of you fuckers long ago. :D) But you can kill someone with guns.

    Logic's a wonderful thing, innit? ;)

    No logic at all...without myspace and the internet the killer wouldnt have been able to find the identity of the school children...hence stopping the whole crime. He could have killed the children with a knife instead as long as he had their myspace remembered
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  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    He could have invaded and taken over a school without MySpace. He couldn't have done it without a gun. You can't hold an entire town at bay if your weapon is a tire iron. Unless you're a martial arts master, you probably couldn't even prevent the kids in the class from kicking your sorry ass.
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  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    hippiemom wrote:
    He could have invaded and taken over a school without MySpace. He couldn't have done it without a gun. You can't hold an entire town at bay if your weapon is a tire iron. Unless you're a martial arts master, you probably couldn't even prevent the kids in the class from kicking your sorry ass.

    Give the kid a spoon and he could kill one or two on his way to being subdued. Nobody ever talks about banning spoons though. Except airlines but they will probably ban air soon since you can't kill if you can't breathe.
  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    hippiemom wrote:
    He could have invaded and taken over a school without MySpace. He couldn't have done it without a gun. You can't hold an entire town at bay if your weapon is a tire iron. Unless you're a martial arts master, you probably couldn't even prevent the kids in the class from kicking your sorry ass.

    WHat about us law abiding citizens who have guns...should we have to pay for some lunatic who cant obey the law? What about my 2nd amendement right to own a gun?
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  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    miller8966 wrote:
    WHat about us law abiding citizens who have guns...should we have to pay for some lunatic who cant obey the law? What about my 2nd amendement right to own a gun?

    None of the rights outlined in the Bill of Rights is absolute in today's America.
  • miller8966 wrote:
    No logic at all...without myspace and the internet the killer wouldnt have been able to find the identity of the school children...hence stopping the whole crime. He could have killed the children with a knife instead as long as he had their myspace remembered

    Plenty of logic.

    Myspace did not clearly cause this homicidal predator's illness: it merely provided him with a dangerous outlet for his fixations and fantasies. The likelihood that he might have stormed a school one day and done a similar act can certainly not be discounted.

    Let's make an analogy here, a good one. Let's accept the official line, that Mark David Chapman killed John Lennon. Mark Chapman found out where Lennon was living, at the Dakota in New York, through reading a magazine article about the singer, late in 1980. Should the magazine be banned, for providing that info? Sure, Chapman might not have killed Lennon otherwise, but given his fragile psychological state, it's likely he would have killed somebody in other circumstances - no?



    The choice of weapon is significant, because running into a school and trying to take it over, armed with a knife, is going to get a psycho with intentions to kill and molest less far than having a gun. The gun serves his perverted purpose better. It's far more effective. It facilitates his plan.
  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    Plenty of logic.

    Myspace did not clearly cause this homicidal predator's illness: it merely provided him with a dangerous outlet for his fixations and fantasies. The likelihood that he might have stormed a school one day and done a similar act can certainly not be discounted.

    Let's make an analogy here, a good one. Let's accept the official line, that Mark David Chapman killed John Lennon. Mark Chapman found out where Lennon was living, at the Dakota in New York, through reading a magazine article about the singer, late in 1980. Should the magazine be banned, for providing that info? Sure, Chapman might not have killed Lennon otherwise, but given his fragile psychological state, it's likely he would have killed somebody in other circumstances - no?



    The choice of weapon is significant, because running into a school and trying to take it over, armed with a knife, is going to get a psycho with intentions to kill and molest less far than having a gun. The gun serves his perverted purpose better. It's far more effective. It facilitates his plan.

    Again its not the guns fault..but the person using the gun. Guns do plenty of good in this world..hell how can i hunt deer without it?
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  • miller8966 wrote:
    Again its not the guns fault..but the person using the gun. Guns do plenty of good in this world..hell how can i hunt deer without it?


    Why the fuck would you want to hunt an innocent deer? Isn't there a Walmart in your neighbourhood?
  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    Why the fuck would you want to hunt an innocent deer? Isn't there a Walmart in your neighbourhood?

    Does Wal Mart sell venison?
  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    miller8966 wrote:
    WHat about us law abiding citizens who have guns...should we have to pay for some lunatic who cant obey the law? What about my 2nd amendement right to own a gun?
    I'm a gun owner too, and I don't favor a total ban, but I do think there should be much tighter restrictions than there are now. There should be more thorough background checks, the gun show loophole should be closed, there should be a paper trail of where every gun goes, and you should have to demonstrate that you know how to handle a gun and that you have an appropriate place to store it.

    We keep much better track of our cars, which actually have a purpose other than killing things, than we do our guns, and that's just crazy.
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  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    Why the fuck would you want to hunt an innocent deer? Isn't there a Walmart in your neighbourhood?

    Because hunting is part of the american tradition..as is my 2nd amendment right to own a gun if im a law abiding citizen. You ever hunt deer before?
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  • zstillings wrote:
    Does Wal Mart sell venison?

    I fucking well hope not. But can't he eat something else, from the store? I hear they do a nice line of vegetarian chilli, these days. He could even hunt for his own recipes, on Myspace. You don't need a gun for that. ;)
  • miller8966 wrote:
    Because hunting is part of the american tradition..as is my 2nd amendment right to own a gun if im a law abiding citizen. You ever hunt deer before?

    Nope. Hunting used to be a British tradition here, for a minority of people. It's illegal here, now.
  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    miller8966 wrote:
    Because hunting is part of the american tradition..as is my 2nd amendment right to own a gun if im a law abiding citizen. You ever hunt deer before?
    American tradition??? Right, because America started the whole hunting craze. I guess it's just a myth that people hunted thousands of years ago so they wouldn't starve.
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  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    hippiemom wrote:
    I'm a gun owner too, and I don't favor a total ban, but I do think there should be much tighter restrictions than there are now. There should be more thorough background checks, the gun show loophole should be closed, there should be a paper trail of where every gun goes, and you should have to demonstrate that you know how to handle a gun and that you have an appropriate place to store it.

    We keep much better track of our cars, which actually have a purpose other than killing things, than we do our guns, and that's just crazy.

    I agree...But cars do kill alot of people also..maybe even more than guns
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  • Plenty of logic.

    Myspace did not clearly cause this homicidal predator's illness: it merely provided him with a dangerous outlet for his fixations and fantasies.

    True ... And neither did a gun. Choice of weapon is indeed significant here. But not for legality reasons. Banning said weapons would not likely have changed that much, which I think is miller's point.
  • Nope. Hunting used to be a British tradition here, for a minority of people. It's illegal here, now.

    Illegal why, though? Because game populations are so low, or because of gun phobia?
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