President Ahmadinejad: The Transcript

LBC1076LBC1076 Posts: 224
edited September 2006 in A Moving Train
Interview with NBC's Brian Williams today.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14912050/


If anyone see's the transcript of his speech to the UN from tonight, could you please post it as well. I missed the last part of it.
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  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    the PR campaign continues ...

    of course many will say he can't be trusted ... its just too bad that the west has no credibility whatsoever to make any accusations ...
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    even though he comes across as Mr. nice guy, he still wants Israel wiped off the map. cant have that. but I hope one day we can all be friends and sing "we are the world" again. that was nice
  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    all you need is to feed them something and its clear sailing ...
  • Eva7Eva7 Posts: 226
    LBC1076 wrote:
    If anyone see's the transcript of his speech to the UN from tonight, could you please post it as well. I missed the last part of it.

    Following is the full text of President Ahmadinejad's speech at the General Assembly:

    PART I

    "In the name of God, the Compassionate, the Merciful. Praise be to God and peace be upon Prophet Mohammad and His Infallible Household and chosen disciples. O God, hasten the reappearance of the Imam of the times and grant to us victory and prosperity. Include us among his followers and martyrs.

    "Madam President,
    "Distinguished Heads of State and Government,
    "Distinguished Heads of Delegation,
    "Excellencies, Ladies and Gentlemen:
    "I praise the Merciful, All-Knowing and Almighty God for blessing me with another opportunity to address this Assembly on behalf of the great nation of Iran and to bring a number of issues to the attention of the international community.

    "I also praise the Almighty for the increasing vigilance of peoples across the globe, their courageous presence in different international settings, and the brave expression of their views and aspirations regarding global issues.

    "Today, humanity passionately craves for commitment to the Truth, devotion to God, enforcement of justice and respect for the dignity of human beings, elimination of domination and aggression, defense of the oppressed. And a longing for peace constitutes the legitimate demand of the peoples of the world, particularly the new generations and the spirited youth, who aspire a world free from decadence, aggression and injustice, and replete with love and compassion. The youth have a right to seek justice and the Truth; and they have a right to build their own future on the foundations of love, compassion and tranquility. And, I praise the Almighty for this immense blessing.

    "Madame President,
    "Excellencies,
    "What afflicts humanity today is certainly not compatible with human dignity; the Almighty has not created human beings so that they could transgress on others and oppress them.

    "By causing war and conflict, some are fast expanding their domination, accumulating greater wealth and usurping all resources, while others endure the resulting poverty, suffering and misery.

    "Some seek to rule the world relying on weapons and threats, while others live in perpetual insecurity and danger.

    "Some occupy the homeland of others, thousands of kilometers away from their borders, interfere in their affairs and control their oil and other resources and strategic routes, while others are bombarded daily in their own homes; their children murdered in the streets and alleys of their own country and their homes reduced to rubble.

    "Such behavior is not consistent with the status of human beings and runs counter to the Truth, to justice and to human dignity. The fundamental question is that under such conditions, where should the oppressed seek justice? Who or what organization defends the rights of the oppressed, and suppresses acts of aggression and oppression? Where is the seat of global justice?
    "A brief glance at a few examples of the most pressing global issues can further illustrate the problem.

    "A. The unbridled expansion of nuclear, chemical and biological weapons:
    "Some powers proudly announce their production of second and third generation nuclear weapons. What do they need these weapons for? Is the development and stockpiling of these deadly weapons designed to promote peace and democracy? Or are these weapons, in fact, instruments of coercion and threat against other peoples and governments? How long should the people of the world live with the nightmare of nuclear, biological and chemical weapons? To what length can powers producing and possessing these weapons go? How can they be held accountable before the international community? And, are the inhabitants of these countries content with waste resulting from the use of their wealth and resources for the production of destructive arsenals? Is it not possible to rely on justice, ethics and wisdom instead of on instruments of death? Aren't wisdom and justice more compatible with peace and tranquility than nuclear, chemical and biological weapons? If wisdom, ethics and justice prevail, then oppression and aggression will be uprooted, threats will wither away and no reason will remain for conflict. This is a solid proposition because most global conflicts emanate from injustice, and from the powerful not being content with their own rights and still strive to devour the rights of others.

    "People across the globe embrace justice and are willing to sacrifice for its sake.

    "Would it not be easier for global powers to ensure their longevity and win hearts and minds through the championing of real justice, compassion and peace than by continuing their production and proliferation of nuclear and chemical weapons and the threat of their use?
    "The experience of the threat and the use of nuclear weapons is before us. Has it achieved anything for the perpetrators other than exacerbation of tension, hatred and animosity among nations?
  • Eva7Eva7 Posts: 226
    PART II

    "B. Occupation of countries and exacerbation of hostilities "Occupation of countries, including Iraq, has continued for the last three years. Not a day goes by without hundreds of people getting killed in cold blood. The occupiers are incapable of establishing security in Iraq. Despite the establishment of the lawful Government and National Assembly of Iraq, there are covert and overt efforts to heighten insecurity, magnify and aggravate differences within Iraqi society, and instigate civil strife.


    "There is no indication that the occupiers have the necessary political will to eliminate the sources of instability. Numerous terrorists were apprehended by the Government of Iraq only to be let loose under various pretexts by the occupiers.

    "It seems that intensification of hostilities and terrorism serves as a pretext for the continued presence of foreign forces in Iraq.

    "Where can the people of Iraq seek refuge, and from whom should the Government of Iraq seek justice?
    "Who can ensure Iraq's security? Insecurity in Iraq affects the entire region. Can the Security Council play a role in restoring peace and security in Iraq when the occupiers are themselves the permanent members of the Council? Can the Security Council adopt a fair decision in this regard?
    "Consider the situation in Palestine:
    "The roots of the Palestinian problem go back to the Second World War. Under the pretext of protecting some of the survivors of that war, the land of Palestine was occupied through war, aggression and the displacement of millions of its inhabitants; it was placed under the control of some of the war's survivors, bringing even larger population groups from elsewhere in the world who had not been even affected by the war; and a government was established in the territory of others with a population collected from across the world at the expense of driving millions of rightful inhabitants of the land into a diaspora and homelessness. This is a great tragedy with hardly a precedent in history. Refugees continue to live in temporary refugee camps and many have died still hoping to one day return to their homeland. Can any logic, law or legal reasoning justify this tragedy? Can any member of the United Nations accept such a tragedy occurring in their own homeland?
    "The pretexts for the creation of the regime occupying Al-Qods Al-Sharif are so weak that its proponents want to silence any voice trying to merely speak about them as they fear that the shedding of light on the facts would undermine the raison d'etre of this regime as it already has.

    "The tragedy does not end with the establishment of a regime in the territory of others. Regrettably, from its inception, the regime has been a constant source of threat and insecurity in the Middle East region, waging war and spilling blood and impeding the progress of regional countries, and has also been used by some powers as an instrument of division, coercion, and pressure on the people of the region.

    "Reference to these historical realities may cause some disquiet among supporters of this regime. But these are sheer facts and not myth. History has unfolded before our eyes.

    "Worst yet is the blanket and unwarranted support provided to this regime.

    "Just watch what is happening in Palestinian lands. People are being bombarded in their own homes and their children murdered in their own streets and alleys. But no authority, not even the Security Council, can afford them any support or protection. Why?
    "At the same time, a government is formed democratically and through the free choice of the electorate in a part of Palestinian territory. But instead of receiving the support of the so-called champions of democracy, its ministers and members of parliament are illegally abducted and incarcerated in full view of the international community.

    "Which council or international organization stands up to protect this brutally besieged government? And why can't the Security Council take any steps?
    "Let me here address Lebanon:
    "For thirty-three long days, the Lebanese lived under the barrage of fire and bombs and close to 1.5 million of them were displaced.

    Meanwhile, some members of the Security Council practically chose a path that provided ample opportunity for the aggressor to achieve its objectives militarily. We witnessed the Security Council of the United Nations practically incapacitated by certain powers to even call for a ceasefire. The Security Council sat idly by for so many days witnessing the cruel scenes of atrocities against the Lebanese while tragedies such as Qana were persistently repeated. Why? "In all these cases, the answer is self-evident. When the power behind the hostilities is itself a permanent member of the Security Council, how then can this Council fulfill its responsibilities? "C. Lack of respect for the rights of members of the international community
    "Excellencies,
    "I now wish to refer to some of the grievances of the Iranian people and speak about the injustices against them.

    "The Islamic Republic of Iran is a member of the IAEA and is committed to the NPT. All our nuclear activities are transparent, peaceful and under the watchful eyes of IAEA inspectors. Why then are there objections to our legally recognized rights? Which governments object to these rights? Governments that themselves benefit from nuclear energy and the fuel cycle. Some of them have abused nuclear technology for non-peaceful ends, including the production of nuclear bombs, and some even have a bleak record of using them against humanity.

    "Which organization or Council should address these injustices? Is the Security Council in a position to address them? Can it stop violations of the inalienable rights of countries? Can it prevent certain powers from impeding scientific progress of other countries? "The abuse of the Security Council, as an instrument of threat and coercion, is indeed a source of grave concern.

    "Some permanent members of the Security Council, even when they are themselves parties to international disputes, conveniently threaten others in the Security Council and seek condemnation, even before any decision by the Council, their opponents by the Council.

    The questions are: What can justify such exploitation of the Security Council? Does this not erode the credibility and effectiveness of the Council? Can such behavior contribute to the ability of the Council to maintain security?"
  • Eva7Eva7 Posts: 226
    PART III

    "Excellencies,
    "A review of the preceding historical realities would lead to the conclusion that regrettably, justice has become a victim of force and aggression.

    "Many global arrangements have become unjust, discriminatory and irresponsible as a result of undue pressure from certain powers; "Threats of nuclear weapons and other instruments of war by some powers have taken the place of respect for the rights of nations and the maintenance and promotion of peace and tranquility; "For some powers, claims of promotion of human rights and democracy can only last as long as they can be used as instruments of pressure and intimidation against other nations. But when it comes to the interests of rightful claimants, concepts such as democracy, the right of self-determination of nations, respect for the rights and obligations of peoples, international law and justice have no place or value. This is blatantly manifested in the way the elected government of the Palestinian people is treated as well as in the support extended to the Zionist regime. It does not matter if people are murdered in Palestine, turned into refugees, captured, imprisoned or besieged -- these do not violate human rights.

    "Nations are not equal in exercising their rights recognized by international law. Enjoyment of these rights is dependent on the whim of certain major powers.

    "Apparently the Security Council can only be used to ensure the security and the rights of some big powers. When the oppressed are crushed by bombardment, the Security Council must remain aloof and not even call for a ceasefire. Is this not a tragedy of historic proportions for the Security Council which is charged with maintaining security for all countries?
    "The prevailing order of contemporary global interactions is such that certain powers equate themselves with the international community, and consider their decisions superseding that of over 180 countries. They consider themselves the masters and rulers of the entire world and other nations as only second class in the world order.

    "Excellencies,
    "The question needs to be asked: if the governments of the United States or the United Kingdom, who are permanent members of the Security Council, commit aggression, occupation and violation of international law, which of the organs of the UN can take them to account? Can a Council in which they are privileged members address their violations? Has this ever happened? In fact, we have repeatedly seen the reverse. If they have differences with a nation or state, they drag it to the Security Council and as claimants, arrogate to themselves simultaneously the roles of prosecutor, judge and executioner. Is this a just order? Can there be a more vivid case of discrimination and more clear evidence of injustice?
    "Regrettably, the persistence of some hegemonic powers in imposing their exclusionist policies on international decision making mechanisms, including the Security Council, has resulted in a growing mistrust in global public opinion, undermining the credibility and effectiveness of this most universal system of collective security.

    "Excellencies,
    "How long can such a situation last in the world? It is evident that the behavior of some powers constitutes the greatest challenge before the Security Council, the entire organization and its affiliated agencies.

    "The present structure and working methods of the Security Council, which are legacies of the Second World War, are not responsive to the expectations of the current generation and the contemporary needs of humanity.

    "Today, it is undeniable that the Security Council, most critically and urgently, needs legitimacy and effectiveness. It must be acknowledged that as long as the Council is unable to act on behalf of the entire international community in a transparent, just and democratic manner, it will neither be legitimate nor effective.

    Furthermore, the direct relation between the abuse of veto and the erosion of the legitimacy and effectiveness of the Council has now been clearly and undeniably established. We cannot, and should not, expect the eradication, or even containment, of injustice, imposition and oppression without reforming the structure and working methods of the Council.

    "Is it appropriate to expect this generation to submit to the decisions and arrangements established over half a century ago? Doesn't this generation or future generations have the right to decide themselves about the world in which they want to live?
    "Today, serious reform in the structure and working methods of the Security Council is, more than ever before, necessary. Justice and democracy dictate that the role of the General Assembly, as the highest organ of the United Nations, must be respected. The General Assembly can then, through appropriate mechanisms, take on the task of reforming the Organization and particularly rescue the Security Council from its current state. In the interim, the Non-Aligned Movement, the Organization of the Islamic Conference and the African continent should each have a representative as a permanent member of the Security Council, with veto privilege. The resulting balance would hopefully prevent further trampling of the rights of nations.
  • Eva7Eva7 Posts: 226
    PART IV

    "Madame President,
    "Excellencies,
    "It is essential that spirituality and ethics find their rightful place in international relations. Without ethics and spirituality, attained in light of the teachings of Divine prophets, justice, freedom and human rights cannot be guaranteed.

    "Resolution of contemporary human crises lies in observing ethics and spirituality and governance by righteous people of high competence and piety.

    "Should respect for the rights of human beings become the predominant objective, injustice, ill-temper, aggression and war will fade away.

    "Human beings are all God's creatures and are all endowed with dignity and respect.

    "No one has superiority over others. No individual or states can arrogate to themselves special privileges, nor can they disregard the rights of others and, through influence and pressure, position themselves as the `international community'.

    "Citizens of Asia, Africa, Europe and America are all equal. Over six billion inhabitants of the earth are all equal and worthy of respect.

    "Justice and protection of human dignity are the two pillars in maintaining sustainable peace, security and tranquility in the world.

    "It is for this reason that we state:
    "Sustainable peace and tranquility in the world can only be attained through justice, spirituality, ethics, compassion and respect for human dignity.

    "All nations and states are entitled to peace, progress and security.

    "We are all members of the international community and we are all entitled to insist on the creation of a climate of compassion, love and justice.

    "All members of the United Nations are affected by both the bitter and the sweet events and developments in today's world.

    "We can adopt firm and logical decisions thereby improving the prospects of a better life for current and future generations.

    "Together, we can eradicate the roots of bitter maladies and afflictions and through promotion of universal and lasting values such as ethics, spirituality and justice allow our nations to taste the sweetness of a better future.

    "Peoples, driven by their divine nature, intrinsically seek good, virtue, perfection and geauty. Relying on our peoples, we can take giant steps towards reform and pave the road for human perfection.

    Whether we like it or not, justice, peace and virtue will sooner or later prevail in the world with the will of Almighty God. It is imperative, and also desirable, that we, too, contribute to the promotion of justice and virtue.

    "The Almighty and Merciful God, who is the Creator of the Universe, is also its Lord and Ruler. Justice is His command. He commands His creatures to support one another in Good, virtue and piety, and not in decadence and corruption.

    "He commands His creatures to enjoin one another to righteousness and virtue and not to sin and transgression. All Divine prophets from the Prophet Adam (peace be upon him) to the Prophet Moses (peace be upon him), to the Prophet Jesus Christ (peace be upon him), to the Prophet Mohammad (peace be upon him), have all called humanity to monotheism, justice, brotherhood, love and compassion. Is it not possible to build a better world based on monotheism, justice, love and respect for the rights of human beings, and thereby transform animosities into friendship?
    "I emphatically declare that today's world, more than ever before, longs for just and righteous people with love for all humanity; and above all longs for the perfect righteous human being and the real savior who has been promised to all peoples and who will establish justice, peace and brotherhood on the planet.

    "O, Almighty God, all men and women are your creatures and you have ordained their guidance and salvation. Bestow upon humanity that thirsts for justice, the perfect human being promised to all by you, and make us among his followers and among those who strive for his return and his cause.

    source: http://www.irna.ir/en/news/view/menu-234/0609200109141821.htm
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    Isn't it weird we all now know more about the thoughts of another country's president, and actions.. than we do our own.

    Why is Bush so afraid of the truth and speaking his own thoughts?
  • Eva7Eva7 Posts: 226
    macgyver06 wrote:
    Isn't it weird we all now know more about the thoughts of another country's president, and actions.. than we do our own.

    Why is Bush so afraid of the truth and speaking his own thoughts?

    I think he does exactly speak his own thoughts, and that is the scary part!!!
    The truth? He's not afraid of the truth, since in this world "truth" is just what people buy, and he is simply the seller.
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    Eva7 wrote:
    I think he does exactly speak his own thoughts, and that is the scary part!!!
    The truth? He's not afraid of the truth, since in this world "truth" is just what people buy, and he is simply the seller.

    do you think leaving out important parts of history in the middle east and especially the iraq/iran war is ok for a president who wants to spread his version of democracy to another way?
  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    macgyver06 wrote:
    Isn't it weird we all now know more about the thoughts of another country's president, and actions.. than we do our own.

    I think it is weird that you believe you know Ahmadinejad's thoughts from listening to his UN speech.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • Eva7Eva7 Posts: 226
    macgyver06 wrote:
    do you think leaving out important parts of history in the middle east and especially the iraq/iran war is ok for a president who wants to spread his version of democracy to another way?

    It is probably ok for his plans. what do you expect him to say? his version of democracy is what you have in front of your eyes, "death for all who I still can't control".
  • Eva7Eva7 Posts: 226
    jeffbr wrote:
    I think it is weird that you believe you know Ahmadinejad's thoughts from listening to his UN speech.

    No, but you can maybe understand what he's aiming at. And that, I think, is enough.
  • Him being against humans oppressing other humans is something that tickles my funny bone.

    Praise be to god. :p
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  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    Eva7 wrote:
    It is probably ok for his plans. what do you expect him to say? his version of democracy is what you have in front of your eyes, "death for all who I still can't control".

    I am in no way agreeing with his views or anything.. all i said was that from the interview with williams, you get more of a sense of what his life is like.. at least I do..and it might not be true..any of it. It is the effort of putting yourself out there.

    however.. Bush on record has said your either with us or against us. I think these 2 are very similar, in their nationalist ideals. Though Bush isn't as well spoken.
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    jeffbr wrote:
    I think it is weird that you believe you know Ahmadinejad's thoughts from listening to his UN speech.

    I never said this.
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    can we all agree though..these two ''men'' are reasons why we should keep religion inside of us.
  • jeffbrjeffbr Posts: 7,177
    macgyver06 wrote:
    I never said this.

    Sorry. I misunderstood your post. Immediately following a printed transcript of his speech your post said
    macgyver06 wrote:
    Isn't it weird we all now know more about the thoughts of another country's president, and actions.. than we do our own.

    Why is Bush so afraid of the truth and speaking his own thoughts?

    implying to me that you believed Ahmadinejad was being honest and forthcoming. I don't feel like I know either's thoughts.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    He raises some interesting and valid points. As I am sure every leader who gets to talk will. Well, most will.
    You've changed your place in this world!
  • Him being against humans oppressing other humans is something that tickles my funny bone.

    Praise be to god. :p


    No kidding ... Man, these guys have basically turned the UN into an international episode of Jerry Springer.
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    jeffbr wrote:
    Sorry. I misunderstood your post. Immediately following a printed transcript of his speech your post said


    implying to me that you believed Ahmadinejad was being honest and forthcoming. I don't feel like I know either's thoughts.

    i mean his willingness to have an interview with a reporter of a foreign country.
    never said i believe any of it.

    sharing his insight. good or bad..
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