McCain vs Obama on Foreign Policy

RolandTD20Kdrummer

McCain rhymes with "insane".

Obama sounds remarkably like "will still bomb ya"

Cosmo

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

When part of the instability a direct result of our presence in the region, one has to wonder what good is going to come of a prolonged occupation? And when if ever will the area be 'stable' when so much of the middle east is at each others throats without us occupying them? When is the cost of this occupation going to cause us to buckle? How is our presence going to stop the infighting, much less solve the problem causing it? Aren't they going to continue killing off the minority with us there or not? And when would it be okay for us to leave and stop protecting them? especially if the problem is never solved? How is our gov't's practice of arming both sides while our troops are caught in the crossfire fixing anything? Do you believe the mainstream candidates will honestly put an end to that? Seems like our policy in Iraq is to ensure instability and chaos then point and say 'See! We have to stay and continue this occupation!' To me it's all bullshit sold to us as the only responsible option. Thye'd probably be much better off without screwing things up even worse for them. And they're saying they want us out. It's their country, right?


ps...you're too sweet. thank you for the kind offer. you go ahead and enjoy your show and try not to be stuck in those merchandise lines too long.

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I agree. No military occupation ever lasts... they exist for a time (such as the Roman occupation of Britian), but, eventually... they fall.
And from the looks of this thing, we are on the right track if failure is what we are trying to achieve.
We are arming both sides of an Iraqi civil war... and tasking our troops to keep a lid on it. How fucking insane is THAT? And by placing the formerly oppressed Shi'ia into power... if Ethnic Cleansing is part of Iraq's future, we will have had a hand in it.
Iraq is a lose/lose proposition. And we have no one but ourselves to hold responsible. Unless we decide to blame Jesus... because, after all... He was the one who told us to go to War.

Abookamongstthemany

Cosmo wrote:

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I agree. No military occupation ever lasts... they exist for a time (such as the Roman occupation of Britian), but, eventually... they fall.
And from the looks of this thing, we are on the right track if failure is what we are trying to achieve.
We are arming both sides of an Iraqi civil war... and tasking our troops to keep a lid on it. How fucking insane is THAT? And by placing the formerly oppressed Shi'ia into power... if Ethnic Cleansing is part of Iraq's future, we will have had a hand in it.
Iraq is a lose/lose proposition. And we have no one but ourselves to hold responsible. Unless we decide to blame Jesus... because, after all... He was the one who told us to go to War.

Then I say if there are no good answers to those questions and people are over there fighting in this mess for nothing while those in power only escalate the chaos they must endure.....let's get the fuck out! It makes no sense to stay there and will only get us further in debt.

Cosmo

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

Then I say if there are no good answers to those questions and people are over there fighting in this mess for nothing while those in power only escalate the chaos they must endure.....let's get the fuck out! It makes no sense to stay there and will only get us further in debt.

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I agree. Chaos is in Iraq's future. It has been in Iraq's future for about 50 years. The difference today is... the United States is holding down the lid on this thing. Saddam Hussein was holding it down before we decided it was our turn to caught up in this shithole.
We should of did our homework... but, we didn't. And now, it belongs to us.

JD Sal

Cosmo wrote:

...Unless we decide to blame Jesus... because, after all... He was the one who told us to go to War.

Author David Kuo had a humorous but factual take on Bush and how his religious faith factors into his political decisions. He said Bush doesn't actually pray to Jesus for answers on things like foreign policy or Iraq. Instead, he makes bad decisions and then prays to Jesus hoping he was right!