i think the public educaitonal system has several errors within it, but yes, accountability and incentives would be two of them...another would be that we spend more on the war on drugs than education and they cut programs like the head start program completely
I agree with you on the war on drugs, but i don't think spending more money on education is the answer. People need to be given a choice where to send their kids to school. Schools need incentives to perform, throwing money at the current situation only promotes inefficiency.
And you ask me what I want this year
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
I don't think using the % of people that have health care is a good way to measure quality of health care. Choosing which dr you want, not having to wait, etc, providing for those who can't afford while allowing those who can afford the choice seems like a big benefit to me.
fundamental difference...i don't think the poor are somehow less deserving of good healthcare.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
I agree with you on the war on drugs, but i don't think spending more money on education is the answer. People need to be given a choice where to send their kids to school. Schools need incentives to perform, throwing money at the current situation only promotes inefficiency.
But throwing money to private schools works nicely...the richer kids still get the benefit of that money.
I don't think the poor kids are somehow less deserving a good education. People don't have choice if they don't have the money. There will always be poor people and those children deserve the same opportunites as wealthy ones or else the cycle never ends.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
fundamental difference...i don't think the poor are somehow less deserving of good healthcare.
I don't think I said they are. In fact, I said I agree with programs that give health care to those who need it. The key is...to those who need it.
And you ask me what I want this year
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
But throwing money to private schools works nicely...the richer kids still get the benefit of that money.
I don't think the poor kids are somehow less deserving a good education. People don't have choice if they don't have the money. There will always be poor people and those children deserve the same opportunites as wealthy ones or else the cycle never ends.
Imagine if poor kids had the opportunity to go to the schools that rich kids did. Why are those schools better? Is it because they have more money? There is not a correlation between $$$ and performance. Dumping money sounds compassionate, but it isn't. It's an easy remedy that makes us feel good to avoid more complicated reasons why certain people are afforded better education than others. People need to be given a choice!
And you ask me what I want this year
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
And you ask me what I want this year
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Imagine if poor kids had the opportunity to go to the schools that rich kids did. Why are those schools better? Is it because they have more money? There is not a correlation between $$$ and performance. Dumping money sounds compassionate, but it isn't. It's an easy remedy that makes us feel good to avoid more complicated reasons why certain people are afforded better education than others. People need to be given a choice!
Money helps buy books, equipment, tools, software, educational material and supplies that are needed to educate. If by people, you mean everyone having an equal choice, then i agree.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Money helps buy books, equipment, tools, software, educational material and supplies that are needed to educate. If by people, you mean everyone having an equal choice, then i agree.
That's what I'm saying, I think schools should compete for students. People shouldn't be forced to send their children to a certain school.
Unfortunately, money doesn't usually equate to books, equipment, tools, etc.
And you ask me what I want this year
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
I agree with you on the war on drugs, but i don't think spending more money on education is the answer. People need to be given a choice where to send their kids to school. Schools need incentives to perform, throwing money at the current situation only promotes inefficiency.
i guess it depends on how you look at it...the first high school i went to had a lot of black ppl...a few bad neighborhoods schooled there. but by my sophmore year they had built a new high school which schooled the kids that lived in the areas of...higher economic backgrounds. my new school had a planetarium, a video production lab, sets, the best sports fields/gyms, more music programs, tvs and vcrs in every classroom...lots of things...then i'd see friends that still went to my old school and see how they still had a few tvs chained to carts that they had to share, old building w/ chipped paint jobs and chipped walls...bascially they still had shit. money can certainly help, it just depends on how it's spent. is it building a planetarium and buying tvs and vcrs? or is it being misspent/misused?
access to a quality education is not available to a whole lot of children.
as for health care, i think it's in the best interest of a nation to have a healthy populace. at the very least we should guarantee health care to everyone under 18, altho i still believe in it for everyone. no matter how much you can actually blame the parents as a factor in these issues it is the children who are being punished by it.
ppl who have money wouldn't dare take medicare/caid just for the stigma alone. i remember a few years ago my insurance was really low, i never paid more than $10 for prescriptions...now i pay $40/2 weeks just for me and i was prescribed a med that w/ my new insurance cost just under $100...and as i said, this wasn't any major kind of drug.
we don't have choice when it comes to drugs, we're not even allowed to buy them from canada, we have been sold out to the health care/hmo and pharamcuetical industries
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
That's what I'm saying, I think schools should compete for students. People shouldn't be forced to send their children to a certain school.
Unfortunately, money doesn't usually equate to books, equipment, tools, etc.
Schools compete? The schools with the money to get all the fancy shit gets all the rich families. That's how your plan is working out...and it is being comepletely negligent to the poorer children. This plan simply ain't working.
If a school isn't using the money correctly then hold them accountable for it, by all means. But give them the fucking chance in the first place.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Schools compete? The schools with the money to get all the fancy shit gets all the rich families. That's how your plan is working out...and it is being comepletely negligent to the poorer children. This plan simply ain't working.
If a school isn't using the money correctly then hold them accountable for it, by all means. But give them the fucking chance in the first place.
...uh, "my plan" hasn't been implemented. As of now, parent's don't have a choice and schools aren't competing. Like you said, doesn't seem like it's working.
need to go to bed...later all
And you ask me what I want this year
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
...uh, "my plan" hasn't been implemented. As of now, parent's don't have a choice and schools aren't competing. Like you said, doesn't seem like it's working.
need to go to bed...later all
As long as you drive your child to school they have a choice about which school they go to. They just can't afford the private schools.
I'm sorry for saying fuck in my last reply. I get a little worked up about this subject. I just want these kids to have a chance at a brighter future on a level playing field. I wasn't meaning to sound harsh. Have a nice night.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
I'm guessing choice of dr is underated in these rankings...I like my dr...I would not respond well to someone telling me where to go.
You seem to be of the understanding that universal healthcare means someone telling you which doctor to see. It doesn't mean that. It means that public funding picks up the bill when you go to see your certified doctor. We have universal healthcare, most doctors apart from the state-run hospitals run a private practice, but get paid tariffs by the state for appointments, apart from a small "own-payment" by the patient. (Typically 15-30$ depending on it being a specialist or regular doctor) And before you say, well good people wont be doctors bacuase they make so little, I can inform you that doctors are indeed well off in this country, and medical education is one of the more prestigious and requires among the highest grades to get in.
What really doesnt fit, is that when one counts how much money different countries spend on health pr capita, the US trounces everyone by spending 2-4 times more than most other industrialized countries. Still, you seem to have much poorer coverage than any of the other western states. you may have top-notch treatment for those who can pay, but the percentage that has access to that is smaller than most other places.
I'm not saying what you should do, but universal health isn't impossible, unfeasible or authoritarian. It's about choice, really.
Peace
Dan
"YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
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I agree with you on the war on drugs, but i don't think spending more money on education is the answer. People need to be given a choice where to send their kids to school. Schools need incentives to perform, throwing money at the current situation only promotes inefficiency.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
fundamental difference...i don't think the poor are somehow less deserving of good healthcare.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
But throwing money to private schools works nicely...the richer kids still get the benefit of that money.
I don't think the poor kids are somehow less deserving a good education. People don't have choice if they don't have the money. There will always be poor people and those children deserve the same opportunites as wealthy ones or else the cycle never ends.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
I don't think I said they are. In fact, I said I agree with programs that give health care to those who need it. The key is...to those who need it.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
what do you mean those who need it?
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Imagine if poor kids had the opportunity to go to the schools that rich kids did. Why are those schools better? Is it because they have more money? There is not a correlation between $$$ and performance. Dumping money sounds compassionate, but it isn't. It's an easy remedy that makes us feel good to avoid more complicated reasons why certain people are afforded better education than others. People need to be given a choice!
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Those that can't afford it.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Money helps buy books, equipment, tools, software, educational material and supplies that are needed to educate. If by people, you mean everyone having an equal choice, then i agree.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
That's what I'm saying, I think schools should compete for students. People shouldn't be forced to send their children to a certain school.
Unfortunately, money doesn't usually equate to books, equipment, tools, etc.
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
i guess it depends on how you look at it...the first high school i went to had a lot of black ppl...a few bad neighborhoods schooled there. but by my sophmore year they had built a new high school which schooled the kids that lived in the areas of...higher economic backgrounds. my new school had a planetarium, a video production lab, sets, the best sports fields/gyms, more music programs, tvs and vcrs in every classroom...lots of things...then i'd see friends that still went to my old school and see how they still had a few tvs chained to carts that they had to share, old building w/ chipped paint jobs and chipped walls...bascially they still had shit. money can certainly help, it just depends on how it's spent. is it building a planetarium and buying tvs and vcrs? or is it being misspent/misused?
access to a quality education is not available to a whole lot of children.
as for health care, i think it's in the best interest of a nation to have a healthy populace. at the very least we should guarantee health care to everyone under 18, altho i still believe in it for everyone. no matter how much you can actually blame the parents as a factor in these issues it is the children who are being punished by it.
ppl who have money wouldn't dare take medicare/caid just for the stigma alone. i remember a few years ago my insurance was really low, i never paid more than $10 for prescriptions...now i pay $40/2 weeks just for me and i was prescribed a med that w/ my new insurance cost just under $100...and as i said, this wasn't any major kind of drug.
we don't have choice when it comes to drugs, we're not even allowed to buy them from canada, we have been sold out to the health care/hmo and pharamcuetical industries
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
Schools compete? The schools with the money to get all the fancy shit gets all the rich families. That's how your plan is working out...and it is being comepletely negligent to the poorer children. This plan simply ain't working.
If a school isn't using the money correctly then hold them accountable for it, by all means. But give them the fucking chance in the first place.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
...uh, "my plan" hasn't been implemented. As of now, parent's don't have a choice and schools aren't competing. Like you said, doesn't seem like it's working.
need to go to bed...later all
And I try to make this kind and clear
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
And desire and love and empty things
Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
As long as you drive your child to school they have a choice about which school they go to. They just can't afford the private schools.
I'm sorry for saying fuck in my last reply. I get a little worked up about this subject. I just want these kids to have a chance at a brighter future on a level playing field. I wasn't meaning to sound harsh. Have a nice night.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
You seem to be of the understanding that universal healthcare means someone telling you which doctor to see. It doesn't mean that. It means that public funding picks up the bill when you go to see your certified doctor. We have universal healthcare, most doctors apart from the state-run hospitals run a private practice, but get paid tariffs by the state for appointments, apart from a small "own-payment" by the patient. (Typically 15-30$ depending on it being a specialist or regular doctor) And before you say, well good people wont be doctors bacuase they make so little, I can inform you that doctors are indeed well off in this country, and medical education is one of the more prestigious and requires among the highest grades to get in.
What really doesnt fit, is that when one counts how much money different countries spend on health pr capita, the US trounces everyone by spending 2-4 times more than most other industrialized countries. Still, you seem to have much poorer coverage than any of the other western states. you may have top-notch treatment for those who can pay, but the percentage that has access to that is smaller than most other places.
I'm not saying what you should do, but universal health isn't impossible, unfeasible or authoritarian. It's about choice, really.
Peace
Dan
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965