The Matrix of Illusion

AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
edited March 2008 in A Moving Train
"Don't be afraid, ever"

A great video on consciousness, perception of reality and matter and the source of fear, greed and stress rooted in clinging to the material world.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktpCoztGAgM
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
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  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    Should check out Ram Dass on youtube.
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    It sure is a great video! :)

    I'll always remember that I first heard that Bill Hicks quote below, which is shown at the end of the video, on this board as posted by El Kabong. :)

    It's one of my most favouritest quotes ever. So true


    "The world is like a ride at an amusement park, and when you choose to go on it you think it's real, because that's how powerful our minds are. And the ride goes up and down and round and round, it has thrills and chills and it's very brightly colored and it's very loud and it's fun, for a while. Some people have been on the ride for a long time, and they begin to question: is this real, or is this just a ride? And other people have remembered, and they come back to us, they say, "Hey - don't worry, don't be afraid, ever, because, this is just a ride." And we…kill those people. "Shut him up. We have a lot invested in this ride! Shut him up! Look at my furrows of worry…look at my big bank account…and my family…this has to be real." It's just a ride. But we always kill those good guys who try and tell us that, you ever notice that? And let the demons run amok. But it doesn't matter because: it's just a ride. And we can change it anytime we want. It's only a choice. No effort, no work, no job, no savings and money; a choice, right now, between fear and love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your doors, buy guns, close yourself off; the eyes of love, instead, see all of us as one."

    ~ Bill Hicks
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

    http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta

    Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
  • Nice to see you here, angelica. Thanks for sharing the Matrix of Illusion on myspace. You always come across the best stuff. :)

    Here's a link to the Bill Hicks thread.

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=246616
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    Nice to see you here, angelica. Thanks for sharing the Matrix of Illusion on myspace. You always come across the best stuff. :)

    Here's a link to the Bill Hicks thread.

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=246616
    Cool! Thanks!! I just favourited that video!

    There was another thread, too, with just the quote at one time. I remember farfromglorified challenging the part where Bill said: "No effort, no work, no job".... :D

    I missed it, but yesterday, one of our mutual myspace/message pit friends sent around the Matrix of Illusion video as a bulletin yesterday, too!
    "The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr

    http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta

    Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
  • angelica wrote:
    Cool! Thanks!! I just favourited that video!

    There was another thread, too, with just the quote at one time. I remember farfromglorified challenging the part where Bill said: "No effort, no work, no job".... :D

    I missed it, but yesterday, one of our mutual myspace/message pit friends sent around the Matrix of Illusion video as a bulletin yesterday, too!

    Yeah, Kabong has posted a lot of Bill Hicks stuff. He's the one who got me into him. I just remembered the video being in that thread I posted last year. FFG takes on Bill Hicks...I missed that one. :D

    I must have missed the other bulletin, as well but I can guess who it must have been. :)
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • reminds me a little bit of listening to feynman

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU8PId_6xec
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • oldermanolderman Posts: 1,765
    Lift not the painted veil which those who live

    Call Life: though unreal shapes be pictured there,

    And it but mimic all we would believe

    With colours idly spread, --- behind, lurk Fear

    And Hope, twin Destinies; who ever weave

    Their shadows, o'er the chasm, sightless and drear.

    I knew one who had lifted it --- he sought,

    For his lost heart was tender, things to love,

    But found them not, alas ! nor was there aught

    The world contains, the which he could approve.

    Through the unheeding many he did move,

    A splendour among shadows, a bright blot

    Upon this gloomy scene, a Spirit that strove

    For truth, and like the Preacher found it not.

    by Percy B. Shelley
    Down the street you can hear her scream youre a disgrace
    As she slams the door in his drunken face
    And now he stands outside
    And all the neighbours start to gossip and drool
    He cries oh, girl you must be mad,
    What happened to the sweet love you and me had?
    Against the door he leans and starts a scene,
    And his tears fall and burn the garden green
  • So where the hell is Ahnimus these days?

    If we look for him, will he magically appear before us?

    :D:D

    edit: some Feynman ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Feynman ) playing the bongos....man...he really likes his orange juice.

    I present you one of the greatest theoretical physicists of our time...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKTSaezB4p8
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • barakabaraka Posts: 1,268
    Very interesting link abook! A great book is 'The Self-Aware Universe, how consciousness creates the material world' by Amit Goswami, PHD, he is a western physicists who is the son of a eastern mystic. It is tough read but very intriguing. Some of the things he touches on is follows:

    Consciousness is a quantum state until awareness from any particular stimulus collapses the quantum state into a matter of choice or measurement. Our brains our basically storage devices, hard drives, where we can reference and make correlations to pass stimuli and occurrences (decisions) and referencing memories from the brain over time gives us the ability to predict outcomes. For example, in my field there are numerous procedures and clinical steps of which I have to be aware of possible outcomes. In short, learning how to be analytical. In contrast, to show how a consciousness of a child, very young, or one that has no collection of memories or experiences that an adult would have, the possibilities of any problem in their mind at that point really are a quantum state, meaning that even possibilities that don't fit or make sense are considered. For example, my daughter thought that I could hide behind the toilet when we played hide and seek. There is a correlation between creativity and it being diminished by the substrata in our minds by the analytical processes. These processes can be looked at as logical statements and groups. Logic is the software of the the software which comprises our computers. Code and scripts have to follow a linear logical sequence and can not be discontinuous. All of high mathematics (calculus and theoretical ) focus on the importance of continuous functions. To have a range of inputs and then to have a range of outputs where some of which are unknown is a discontinuity. Creativity in contrast to logic is a discontinuity. There is a sudden 'jump' from what is known to something new that was previously unknown with no indication of where or how that jump was made. You just kind of arrived there, it is an inspired moment. In other words, a discontinuity is that quantum pool of infinite probability from which miracles can be represented. Godel's theorem supports that, that a complete system is inconsistent. Creativity is a function of consciousness and likewise logic can only be manifested where there is a consciousness stepping through it. You can not run an if/then statement if there is no consciousness to step through that measurement. The 'I' is an illusory discontinuity collapsed by our brain/mind measuring device ( consciousness.)
    The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
    but the illusion of knowledge.
    ~Daniel Boorstin

    Only a life lived for others is worth living.
    ~Albert Einstein
  • barakabaraka Posts: 1,268
    So where the hell is Ahnimus these days?

    Yeah, I kind of miss him. I'm sure he would have a lot to say about this.
    The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
    but the illusion of knowledge.
    ~Daniel Boorstin

    Only a life lived for others is worth living.
    ~Albert Einstein
  • i must have accidentally willed myself into a ball of snot and mucus. I've been coughing up lung oysters for days.
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