ABC host tells Paul and Gravel they have no chance

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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    godpt3 wrote:
    There's a reason they're called "fringe" candidates. By and large, they do not share the values and beliefs of a majority of the people.


    Yet people constantly complain about the government they've elected and say how it's not representing them. Maybe it's because they never got a chance to hear about the guys who would represent them and have better ideas to bring to the table. Unfortunately, many people base their decisions on what they hear in the media...not because they've looked into each candidate and decided which sounded best to them. That's changing and no mainstream media poll (who probably only polled the types that eat the media up anyway) is going to convince me otherwise. The media wants so badly to portray these guys as not worth the time. So I'll ask again, why are they not worth the time? How can they be so 'fringe' if no one even gets to hear their platform so they can agree or disagree with it?
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  • Purple Hawk
    Purple Hawk Posts: 1,300
    Steff is part of the establishment...of COURSE he's going to tell people not named Clinton or Bush they don't have a chance.
    And you ask me what I want this year
    And I try to make this kind and clear
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
    Cuz I don't need boxes wrapped in strings
    And desire and love and empty things
    Just a chance that maybe we'll find better days
  • Milhouse VanHouten
    Milhouse VanHouten Posts: 755
    Snuffleupagus did sound a bit assholic with the way he addressed Ron Paul's chances, but I think the George's primary intention in that particular exchange was to find out what Paul's and Gravel's ultimate intentions were. "Fringe" candidates like Paul, Gravel, and Kucinich are always asked that question:

    "There's no way you can win, so what are you REALLY trying to accomplish with your candidacy?" In other words, "If you understand that you probably will not be inaugurated in 2009, what point are you trying to make here? Are you trying to keep the frontrunners honest, making sure they don't stray too far from traditional party values as they try to win the middle? What issues do you hope to bring into the national debate?"

    I think this is what George was asking Paul; he just did it in a dickish way.

    On the other hand, a John McCain primary victory was considered a forgone conclusion by many people about one year ago. Now, his campaign has the same amount of cash on hand as...

    Congressman Ron Paul. D'oh!
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  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    George S is pissed off that the internet has surpassed television news in viewing and relevance. (check out Katie Courics ratings for the last quarter)

    Thus anyone popular with internet savvy people couldn't possibly have a chance in hell right?

    My answer.... why the fuck would you vote for anyone else really?

    Because the DNC and RNC think it's a good idea???

    That's good for me how?

    It dosen't amount to a hill of beans whether the republicans or democrats win the presidency, you are going to have the same from either. Vote for the canidate with the best ideas and hope they have a decent leadership style. We haven't seen that in ages.

    If all that comes out of this is these sons of bitches becoming more moderate spending wisely, ignoring the looney right and left more often and attempting negociation before invasion then they have succeded.

    Politics are bollocks, and stupid people in large groups often vote stupidly.
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  • CorporateWhore
    CorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    godpt3 wrote:
    newspaper design editor, pleased to meet you. I do, in fact, control what people see.

    Correction:

    You control what "fonts" people see.

    I work for a campus newspaper and all our design editor does is layout articles so they fit in the page. I don't see how that shapes public opinion very much, but hey, you can educate me on that issue.
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    Correction:

    You control what "fonts" people see.

    I work for a campus newspaper and all our design editor does is layout articles so they fit in the page. I don't see how that shapes public opinion very much, but hey, you can educate me on that issue.

    You are correct a design editor has no input on content.
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  • godpt3
    godpt3 Posts: 1,020
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    Correction:

    You control what "fonts" people see.

    I work for a campus newspaper and all our design editor does is layout articles so they fit in the page. I don't see how that shapes public opinion very much, but hey, you can educate me on that issue.

    You've just gotta work your way up to AME level. Maybe it's diffrent on campus papers now, but, personally, I've got a pretty free hand on what goes where in my paper (or if it goes anywhere at all).
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  • godpt3
    godpt3 Posts: 1,020
    mammasan wrote:
    You are correct a design editor has no input on content.

    The message is the medium. It's all in how you present the info to the public.
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  • CorporateWhore
    CorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    godpt3 wrote:
    The message is the medium. It's all in how you present the info to the public.

    Yeah but if one of the executive editors says "this is going on the front page," I guess you could make the headline font smaller but the result is the same.

    I don't know much about newspapers, but I do know that there is ALWAYS a serious chain of command and everyone takes orders from higher up.
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    godpt3 wrote:
    The message is the medium. It's all in how you present the info to the public.

    True but as a designer you still have no control over content. You may give a story a little more prominence by placing it on the upper left corner of the spread so that is the first story they read but that is the extent. I haven't designed for newspapers but I have done magazines and i did have some say in where a story should be placed but the executive editor had the final say and the story was placed where she wanted it.
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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    godpt3 wrote:
    The message is the medium. It's all in how you present the info to the public.

    my [size=+3]font[/size] is bigger that your font....
  • godpt3
    godpt3 Posts: 1,020
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    Yeah but if one of the executive editors says "this is going on the front page," I guess you could make the headline font smaller but the result is the same.

    Above the fold or below... how much of the story is on pg. 1, how much of it jumps to the back section of the paper (never to be seen again). What quotes get pulled out for special attention. Basically, how much prominance the story gets.
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  • godpt3
    godpt3 Posts: 1,020
    inmytree wrote:
    my [size=+3]font[/size] is bigger that your font....

    "than" ;)
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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    godpt3 wrote:
    "than" ;)

    you're hired...!!! :)
  • godpt3
    godpt3 Posts: 1,020
    inmytree wrote:
    you're hired...!!! :)

    funny thing, I'm actually looking for another job right now. Our writing staff here doesn't share the same appreciation for deadlines that I do. :D
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