DNA unraveller Watson claims Westerners are more intelligent than Africans

FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
edited October 2007 in A Moving Train
http://news.independent.co.uk/sci_tech/article3067222.ece

I reckon it'll come out one day that he and Crick never spent any time in the Cavendish labs at all, and just made up a load of old bollocks over at The Eagle pub across the road, instead. ;)

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  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Define Intelligence....there's really no universal accepted standard.
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  • FinsburyParkCarrotsFinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    tybird wrote:
    Define Intelligence....there's really no universal accepted standard.

    He's been at this bollocks for years:

    http://www.mindfully.org/GE/James-Watson-Racist-Sexist.htm
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    tybird wrote:
    Define Intelligence....there's really no universal accepted standard.
    In the manner we are told here, it is something along the lines of shared recognition cognition...of course in this case, it's about skin deep.

    I kind of like my definition from a couple of months ago. Lol. It was just off the cuff, but it kind of makes sense.

    Intelligence = Design - Design x 2

    It means, life is in motion, ideas and creativity are key.

    :)

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  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202

    interesting little article. but i do have to admit, i like the sound of this: "for suggesting that people with IQs under 100 be paid bonuses if they agreed to be sterilized."
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    interesting little article. but i do have to admit, i like the sound of this: "for suggesting that people with IQs under 100 be paid bonuses if they agreed to be sterilized."

    Dude.
    I have a 72 IQ.

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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    tybird wrote:
    Define Intelligence....there's really no universal accepted standard.

    I agree, I posted some other potential problems with the study of intelligence here: http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=4886424&postcount=4
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    interesting little article. but i do have to admit, i like the sound of this: "for suggesting that people with IQs under 100 be paid bonuses if they agreed to be sterilized."

    100 is the mean, so we'd never stop sterilizing people. There will always be people above and below the mean.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I agree, I posted some other potential problems with the study of intelligence here: http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=4886424&postcount=4

    I wasn't aware of this.

    Hmmm.

    I'm sorry.

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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    gue_barium wrote:
    I wasn't aware of this.

    Hmmm.

    I'm sorry.

    I guess I should check the link first.

    I just posted on it.

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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Ahnimus wrote:
    100 is the mean, so we'd never stop sterilizing people. There will always be people above and below the mean.

    I think we should go back in time, if possible, and cut Voltaire off from his coffee intake.

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  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,298
    interesting little article. but i do have to admit, i like the sound of this: "for suggesting that people with IQs under 100 be paid bonuses if they agreed to be sterilized."

    Hehehehe...awesome!
    :D
  • If there is one thing i've learned, its that intelligence is VASTLY overrated.
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    MrSmith wrote:
    If there is one thing i've learned, its that intelligence is VASTLY overrated.
    Your sig says it all. You didn't have to post anything.

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  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    gue_barium wrote:
    Dude.
    I have a 72 IQ.

    want to make a little extra cash?
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    want to make a little extra cash?

    Not really.

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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Ok, let's give Watson some cred, Crick didn't "unravel" DNA alone.

    But I think these statements are a bit hasty and out of Watson's social bounds.

    Anyway

    Wikipedia suggests 2 criteria for racial intelligence

    * that the social categories of race and ethnicity are concordant with genetic categories, such as biogeographic ancestry.
    * that intelligence is quantitatively measurable (see psychometrics) by modern tests and is dominated by a unitary general cognitive ability.

    (1) suggests two controversial ideas. Certainly there are genetic differences. Black people tend to have more fast-twitch muscle tissue, for example. Although our biogeographic ancestry is identical for the most part, there are some genetic differences. There are differences between any two humans. What would be required from evolution to increase the intelligence of everyone but black people? First of all, the environment would have to select for it, and several mutations would probably be necessary. The environment would probably select for it, because we've always favored intelligence in society, but would any or all of the mutations occur in such a small period of evolutionary time?

    (2) has huge flaws in it. The whole concept of general cognitive ability can be argued into the ground. There are insufficient theories and evidence.
    Likewise testing it is even more controversial.

    I don't see it happening. Maybe some day we will know enough to say stuff like that. But right now we have no way of knowing that. I'm hesitant to even say that there really is a quantitative intelligence. I think he's hurtin' his legacy with this kind of stuff.
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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    I'm a Negro.

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  • gue_barium wrote:
    Your sig says it all. You didn't have to post anything.


    5 points:
    1. fuck you. haHA!

    2.Highly intelligent people in developed countries breed less, if at all, thus making it far less likely that their genes will survive.

    3.Aggressiveness, assertiveness, ambition, and social skills are perhaps equal or greater factors in determining finance or career success than extreme intelligence.

    4.George W. Bush

    5.I'm high right now
  • This dude is hilarious.
    In 1997, he told a British newspaper that a woman should have the right to abort her unborn child if tests could determine it would be homosexual. He later insisted he was talking about a "hypothetical" choice which could never be applied. He has also suggested a link between skin colour and sex drive, positing the theory that black people have higher libidos, and argued in favour of genetic screening and engineering on the basis that " stupidity" could one day be cured. He has claimed that beauty could be genetically manufactured, saying: "People say it would be terrible if we made all girls pretty. I think it would great."
    It doesn't matter if you're male, female, or confused; black, white, brown, red, green, yellow; gay, lesbian; redneck cop, stoned; ugly; military style, doggy style; fat, rich or poor; vegetarian or cannibal; bum, hippie, virgin; famous or drunk-you're either an asshole or you're not!

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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    MrSmith wrote:
    5 points:
    1. fuck you. haHA!

    2.Highly intelligent people in developed countries breed less, if at all, thus making it far less likely that their genes will survive.

    3.Aggressiveness, assertiveness, ambition, and social skills are perhaps equal or greater factors in determining finance or career success than extreme intelligence.

    4.George W. Bush

    5.I'm high right now

    You fucker.

    That was pretty good for a chuckle. :)

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  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Scubascott wrote:
    This dude is hilarious.

    I agree.

    WTF.

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  • 69charger69charger Posts: 1,045
    gue_barium wrote:
    Dude.
    I have a 72 IQ.

    Somehow, based on your 9/11 beliefs, I kinda figured this was the case.
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    DNA unraveller Watson says Westerns are more intelligent than Africans

    I KNEW IT!
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    gue_barium wrote:
    Not really.

    that's a shame. isn't 70 considered legally/medically mentally retarded?
  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    that's a shame. isn't 70 considered legally/medically mentally retarded?

    below 70 is "intellectually deficient"
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