Excerpt from: Why animal rights?

halvhalv Posts: 701
edited December 2006 in A Moving Train
"Almost all of us grew up eating meat, wearing leather, and going to circuses and zoos. Many of us bought our beloved “pets” at pet shops, had guinea pigs, and kept beautiful birds in cages. We wore wool and silk, ate at Wendy’s, and fished. We never considered the impact of these actions on the animals involved. For whatever reason, you are now asking the question: Why should animals have rights?

In his book Animal Liberation, Peter Singer states that the basic principle of equality does not require equal or identical treatment; it requires equal consideration. This is an important distinction when talking about animal rights. People often ask if animals should have rights, and quite simply, the answer is “Yes!” Animals surely deserve to live their lives free from suffering and exploitation. Jeremy Bentham, the founder of the reforming utilitarian school of moral philosophy, stated that when deciding on a being’s rights, “The question is not ‘Can they reason?’ nor ‘Can they talk?’ but ‘Can they suffer?’” In that passage, Bentham points to the capacity for suffering as the vital characteristic that gives a being the right to equal consideration. The capacity for suffering is not just another characteristic like the capacity for language or higher mathematics. All animals have the ability to suffer in the same way and to the same degree that humans do. They feel pain, pleasure, fear, frustration, loneliness, and motherly love. Whenever we consider doing something that would interfere with their needs, we are morally obligated to take them into account.

Supporters of animal rights believe that animals have an inherent worth—a value completely separate from their usefulness to humans. We believe that every creature with a will to live has a right to live free from pain and suffering. Animal rights is not just a philosophy—it is a social movement that challenges society’s traditional view that all nonhuman animals exist solely for human use. As PETA founder Ingrid Newkirk has said, “When it comes to pain, love, joy, loneliness, and fear, a rat is a pig is a dog is a boy. Each one values his or her life and fights the knife.”

Only prejudice allows us to deny others the rights that we expect to have for ourselves. Whether it’s based on race, gender, sexual orientation, or species, prejudice is morally unacceptable. If you wouldn’t eat a dog, why eat a pig? Dogs and pigs have the same capacity to feel pain, but it is prejudice based on species that allows us to think of one animal as a companion and the other as dinner."
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  • halvhalv Posts: 701

    Seriously dude....animal rights is much bigger than just PETA (even though that link is full of lies and deception). If your going to make a point than make one. So far so lame.
  • UpSideDownUpSideDown Posts: 1,966
    What about the condition of the animals received by PETA? Where exactly do these animals come from? How many are diseased or abused beyond recovery?

    That site doesnt really back up much of what it claims. Only thing i can really see proof of is the guys dumping dead animals into dumpsters.
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Can it suffer?

    Umm. News flash, all organic life suffers. Even when you pull a carrot out of the garden and bite into it, the individual cells within it suffer. It's the driving factor behind life, including humans, the struggle to survive, to seek pleasure and avoid pain. This is called Chemotaxis
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemotaxis

    The ethical problem is one only of wether or not an organism can perceive pain, wether or not they feel it, not if they have it. Or else we wood starve protecting vegetables from suffering. The complexity of our awareness of ourselves is derived from our brains. All mammals have brains, the fruit fly has a brain, to what extent are they aware of themselves? That is the question. And also does that matter? If we determine that fruit flies have awareness of pain, do we squash them to stop them from flying around our heads or allow them to roam freely within our environments? We run into a real problem if we simply allow all life to act as it pleases and not interfere. Including the extinction of our species, though I bet if people are starving they won't care much about ethics.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm all for animal rights, as long as they are justified by scientific research and grounded in logical thought. I'm not a big fan of guessing when it comes to these issues.
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  • halv wrote:
    Seriously dude....animal rights is much bigger than just PETA (even though that link is full of lies and deception). If your going to make a point than make one. So far so lame.

    Sorry I'm so lame Halv, but I was referring specifically to PETA from the original post that included a quote from Ingrid, who fronts a hypocritical organization. So far so dumb.
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  • 69charger69charger Posts: 1,045
    I'm for animal rights as long as we recognize they don't deserve the same rights as humans. We can treat them humanely but I still want to eat the tasty bastards! ;)
  • 69charger wrote:
    I'm for animal rights as long as we recognize they don't deserve the same rights as humans. We can treat them humanely but I still want to eat the tasty bastards! ;)

    +1
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  • seagoat2seagoat2 Posts: 241
    Here are 3 titles that may illuminate this subject for anyone interested:

    Drawing the Line (The Case for Animal Rights) by Steven M. Wise
    When Elephants Weep by Jeffrey M. Masson
    The Ten Trusts by Jane Goodall

    Good reading.......
  • 69charger wrote:
    I'm for animal rights as long as we recognize they don't deserve the same rights as humans. We can treat them humanely but I still want to eat the tasty bastards! ;)

    Yes please.
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