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Vedderlution_BabyVedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
edited September 2006 in A Moving Train
So spain banned super skinny models. I wholeheartedly agree with this one. Some of the fashion people are bitching about being used as a scapegoat and the designers freedom's and shit but come on. As a show that uses women because of they perceive as beautiful, skinny, and model material...they should be held liable. As for the designer's freedom...what the hell? They can't design something that fits on someone who isn't grossly underwieght? Then maybe they shouldn't be a designer? Just a thought.


So, what do you guys think about this?
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  • surferdudesurferdude Posts: 2,057
    So spain banned super skinny models. I wholeheartedly agree with this one. Some of the fashion people are bitching about being used as a scapegoat and the designers freedom's and shit but come on. As a show that uses women because of they perceive as beautiful, skinny, and model material...they should be held liable. As for the designer's freedom...what the hell? They can't design something that fits on someone who isn't grossly underwieght? Then maybe they shouldn't be a designer? Just a thought.


    So, what do you guys think about this?
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  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    Maybe they just need a balance, have some models who are thin, some who are not.

    The ones who are unhealthy should be banned, that goes for the bigger and the smaller ones.
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  • Ms. HaikuMs. Haiku Posts: 7,265
    Could you post a link to an article about the ban? That doesn't make sense to ban people based on weight. It just doesn't make sense.
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  • PickrPickr Posts: 161
    It's ridiculous that the "skinny" models are held to the standard more often than not. But is this not because people buy the magazines they are on and products endorsed by them? It is encouraging to see some designers using women who represent what a beautiful woman should be in my opinion, but it ain't Nicole Richie or Kate Moss.
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    I think it's dumb and just more unnecessary government regulations that restrict freedom.

    If they're going to ban people from working based upon weight, then I think that they should ban fat people before the skinny ones.
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  • What the hell? This can't be correct.
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060917/hl_afp/afplifestylespain_060917203128

    MADRID (AFP) - Five models hoping to be booked for Madrid's major fashion show which begins Monday were banned from participating because they are too thin, Spanish media reports said.

    This is the first time organisers of a fashion show have applied weight limits set by the World Health Organisation and those of the 44th "Pasarela Cibeles" said their decision was also based on a Spanish regional law aimed at fighting anorexia, a sometimes fatal disease in which women starve themselves to be thin.

    The 68 international models stepped on the scales, like boxers, on Saturday and five Spanish "featherweights" failed. The girls had a body mass index, calculated on a height-weight ratio, of under 18 (56 kilograms for 1.75 meters or 123 pounds for five feet eight inches), the limit set by the regional government of Madrid which co-finances the event.

    The girls were weighed by volunteer doctors recruited for the occasion by the Spanish society of endocrinology and nutrition (SEEN).

    The organisers said they had not even allowed 30 to 40 percent of the models who had taken to the cat-walk in last year's edition of the fashion show to attend the casting.

    There will be 27 fashion-shows in the five-day event during which 31, largely Spanish, clothes' designers will show their wares in a marquee set up in Madrid's Retiro park.

    The "anti-thin" move was criticised in Paris and New York, two of the world's leading fashion centres.

    Fashion "cannot be regulated," said Didier Grumbach, president of the French Fashion Federatoin, adding that if a similar decision were taken in France "everybody would laugh."

    "If Jean-Paul Gaultier wants to have fat girls parade, nobody is going to stop him. When Galliano puts people in his shows who are not pretty, pretty, no one says a thing," he added.

    Stan Herman, president of the association of US designers, said this was a "discriminatory ban" and explained that the question of overly thin models had never even been raised in New York fashion shows.

    The models who took part in last year's Pasarel Cibeles had caused a furore in Spain when they said on television that they dressed in a size 34 or 36 (generally worn by pre-teens or young teenagers) and knew that their careers would be under threat if they gained any weight.
  • Thank god this is some idiot private organization, and not the state of spain itself. Rock on.....
  • It's not just that the models are "Skinny". It's that they're unhealthy as hell and are promoting that type of health hazard. They used the BMI (Body Mass Index) to see what the lowest healthy weight for a person(s) height is. If it falls below the healthy part then they don't get it. They're not just banning them from working. They're giving them two options. 1. Continue to stay ultra-skinny and choose not to work anymore (Atleast in Spain) or 2. Become heathier and work. Yes, if they were overweight instead of overweight then I would be for them being taken off the walk list also. These models are in the spotlight...so therefore they're going to be looked at as promoting an unhealthy state of being skinny that could carry over into another "normal" woman's life. I'm sure they would have a problem with models who promoted overweightness also but there are none. Atleast none that are going to be on the walk at Spain. I don't see the problem with it. I've always been hearing about how the modeling world puts unnessacary and unrealistic pressure on impressionable and young woman/girls.
  • People just need to stop being idiots.

    Models are the creed of superficial human beings and the designers are in the same boat with them.

    I think the government was out of line in doing that.
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  • know1know1 Posts: 6,794
    It's not just that the models are "Skinny". It's that they're unhealthy as hell and are promoting that type of health hazard. They used the BMI (Body Mass Index) to see what the lowest healthy weight for a person(s) height is. If it falls below the healthy part then they don't get it. They're not just banning them from working. They're giving them two options. 1. Continue to stay ultra-skinny and choose not to work anymore (Atleast in Spain) or 2. Become heathier and work. Yes, if they were overweight instead of overweight then I would be for them being taken off the walk list also. These models are in the spotlight...so therefore they're going to be looked at as promoting an unhealthy state of being skinny that could carry over into another "normal" woman's life. I'm sure they would have a problem with models who promoted overweightness also but there are none. Atleast none that are going to be on the walk at Spain. I don't see the problem with it. I've always been hearing about how the modeling world puts unnessacary and unrealistic pressure on impressionable and young woman/girls.


    We're all in the spotlight to some degree. Should we lock away anyone who appears unhealthy so others can't see them? I maintain that it's far less healthy to be overweight than underweight.
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  • Ms. HaikuMs. Haiku Posts: 7,265
    I think "ban" is the word that doesn't make sense. If a person looks unhealthy or sick then why would a fashion designer want that person to model his/her clothes? So, if the candidate for a job does not fit the qualifications then that candidate isn't hired. Banned is a strong word, shouldn't be used regarding weight. It's not like they were tested for steriods and found positive.

    In high school my friend was anorexic and working at a fast food place in a mall. She was advised to leave because her anorexic look didn't promote eating there. She could have sued their asses I'm sure.
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  • I think being overweight and underweight are equally unhealthy and should not be endorsed or promoted in either case.
  • does this mean kate moss is going to be a fat chick by this time next year?? j/k.
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