Revolution inevitable

musicismylife78musicismylife78 Posts: 6,116
edited June 2008 in A Moving Train
Been awhile since my last rant...

We are moving in the same direction our parents did in the waning years of the 1960's. You can track activism during that time period this way:

1964-66/ is the time of making those aware of the problem of vietnam

1966-68-was the protest period.

1968-72 or so was the resistance period

I see our current war and activism around it encompassing the same sort of pattern.

In my mind, the 12,000 or whatever suicide attempts by returning soldiers, the 4,000 dead soldiers, etc...

its all there. Revolution is inevitable.

The funny thing is how naive people are. They thought they could start wars or raise kids in a violent world and nothing would happen. No side effects.

School shootings, returning soldiers unable to cope with life outside war etc... those are all consequences we caused.

The revolution is coming. Whites should choose sides. Either we are on the side of the oppressed or the oppressor.

Its coming. And I will be the first ripping up concrete.
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  • ByrnzieByrnzie Posts: 21,037
    The revolution will not be televised.
  • slightofjeffslightofjeff Posts: 7,762
    Not. Gonna. Happen.
    everybody wants the most they can possibly get
    for the least they could possibly do
  • spiral outspiral out Posts: 1,052
    Not. Gonna. Happen.

    Killjoy.
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

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  • ThecureThecure Posts: 814
    Been awhile since my last rant...

    We are moving in the same direction our parents did in the waning years of the 1960's. You can track activism during that time period this way:

    1964-66/ is the time of making those aware of the problem of vietnam

    1966-68-was the protest period.

    1968-72 or so was the resistance period

    I see our current war and activism around it encompassing the same sort of pattern.

    In my mind, the 12,000 or whatever suicide attempts by returning soldiers, the 4,000 dead soldiers, etc...

    its all there. Revolution is inevitable.

    The funny thing is how naive people are. They thought they could start wars or raise kids in a violent world and nothing would happen. No side effects.

    School shootings, returning soldiers unable to cope with life outside war etc... those are all consequences we caused.

    The revolution is coming. Whites should choose sides. Either we are on the side of the oppressed or the oppressor.

    Its coming. And I will be the first ripping up concrete.

    what do you mean "Whites should choose sides"? why not say people should choose sides.
    People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
    - Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)

    If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    The difference between Vietnam and Iraq is the draft. Many Americans are not feeling the personal loss or any effect of the war. During the Vietnam era almost every American family had the potential of being effected, so more people where interested. Now people are more concerned about the economy and oil prices because they have a far greater affect on the public as a whole. If the American people are going to rise up and revolt it will not be because of the war.
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  • ThecureThecure Posts: 814
    Been awhile since my last rant...

    We are moving in the same direction our parents did in the waning years of the 1960's. You can track activism during that time period this way:

    1964-66/ is the time of making those aware of the problem of vietnam

    1966-68-was the protest period.

    1968-72 or so was the resistance period

    I see our current war and activism around it encompassing the same sort of pattern.

    In my mind, the 12,000 or whatever suicide attempts by returning soldiers, the 4,000 dead soldiers, etc...

    its all there. Revolution is inevitable.

    The funny thing is how naive people are. They thought they could start wars or raise kids in a violent world and nothing would happen. No side effects.

    School shootings, returning soldiers unable to cope with life outside war etc... those are all consequences we caused.

    The revolution is coming. Whites should choose sides. Either we are on the side of the oppressed or the oppressor.

    Its coming. And I will be the first ripping up concrete.

    Also, do you think saying thing slike "Either we are on the side of teh oppressed or the oppressor" does sound liek GWB saying "you are either with us or against us"
    People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
    - Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)

    If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
    - Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
  • Yikes.
    Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
  • OpenOpen Posts: 792
    Thecure wrote:
    what do you mean "Whites should choose sides"? why not say people should choose sides.

    i know got to that part and was like wtf mate?
  • Kel VarnsenKel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    Been awhile since my last rant...

    We are moving in the same direction our parents did in the waning years of the 1960's. You can track activism during that time period this way:

    1964-66/ is the time of making those aware of the problem of vietnam

    1966-68-was the protest period.

    1968-72 or so was the resistance period

    The thing is I think a large portion of those people in the 60's weren't actually there to be activists. I think a lot of them just went along for the good music, the drugs and the sex . I think that is why so many of them became 80's skinny tie (or perhaps piano tie) wearing, coke snortin, money obsessed yuppies.
  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    mammasan wrote:
    The difference between Vietnam and Iraq is the draft. Many Americans are not feeling the personal loss or any effect of the war. During the Vietnam era almost every American family had the potential of being effected, so more people where interested. Now people are more concerned about the economy and oil prices because they have a far greater affect on the public as a whole. If the American people are going to rise up and revolt it will not be because of the war.

    that is a fact, and that is why we need a draft
  • ThecureThecure Posts: 814
    Abuskedti wrote:
    that is a fact, and that is why we need a draft

    so let me understand we need more people to go to Iraq so that we can stop the war? Thank God i am not american.
    People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
    - Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)

    If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
    - Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    Thecure wrote:
    so let me understand we need more people to go to Iraq so that we can stop the war? Thank God i am not american.
    Actually, I believe the argument is that we as a nation would be far less likely to engage in unnecessary wars like Iraq if wars automatically resulted in a draft.

    Plus, there'd be more "demographic variety" in the armed forces during wartime if everyone was eligible.

    But instead of a draft (or even a push for increased recruitment) we use private contractors to, in Iraq's case, essentially double the number of armed "soldiers" in our occupying force. If we list the number of soldiers in Iraq at 150,000, then it's likely we have 300,000 armed people over there - with only the mentioned 150,000 falling under any kind of reasonable code of conduct.
  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    Thecure wrote:
    so let me understand we need more people to go to Iraq so that we can stop the war? Thank God i am not american.

    No, we need the whole country to participate if we go to war. This way the whole country is involved in the decision.
  • mammasan wrote:
    The difference between Vietnam and Iraq is the draft. Many Americans are not feeling the personal loss or any effect of the war. During the Vietnam era almost every American family had the potential of being effected, so more people where interested. Now people are more concerned about the economy and oil prices because they have a far greater affect on the public as a whole. If the American people are going to rise up and revolt it will not be because of the war.
    good point about the draft. another thing is that the news doesn't report on the war like they did back then. you barely see any coverage of the war unless you watch BBC.
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  • ThecureThecure Posts: 814
    Abuskedti wrote:
    No, we need the whole country to participate if we go to war. This way the whole country is involved in the decision.

    i am sorry to tell you this but your whole country was involved in the decision. you voted for the people who said yes. also, you elect people because you feel that they are going to make the best decision could you imagne how worse the government would work if every decison was brought to teh country for them to vote on. no work would be done. (OPPS i forgot no work is being done now anyway)
    People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
    - Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)

    If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
    - Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    Thecure wrote:
    i am sorry to tell you this but your whole country was involved in the decision. you voted for the people who said yes. also, you elect people because you feel that they are going to make the best decision could you imagne how worse the government would work if every decison was brought to teh country for them to vote on. no work would be done. (OPPS i forgot no work is being done now anyway)

    that is true, let me clarify.. of the hunreds of millions there are hoards of people of very little charactor. They are fine with a war if there is even a remote chance it will serve them personally somehow.

    However, if the war effects them personally, because the draft includes everyone equally, then they would not be so willing to allow their faceless nameless countrymen to kill faceless nameless enemies
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Not. Gonna. Happen.

    Hate to be a killjoy too, but I totally agree. Outside of some college age students and some radical people, no one cares enough for a revolution. We all have enough problems in our daily lives that we'd rather spend our efforts on improving.
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  • ThecureThecure Posts: 814
    Abuskedti wrote:
    that is true, let me clarify.. of the hunreds of millions there are hoards of people of very little charactor. They are fine with a war if there is even a remote chance it will serve them personally somehow.

    However, if the war effects them personally, because the draft includes everyone equally, then they would not be so willing to allow their faceless nameless countrymen to kill faceless nameless enemies

    i understand what you mean but just remember one thing the vietnam war had a draft who a couple of presidents were drafted but did not go. there is always away around going to war.
    People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
    - Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)

    If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
    - Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    Thecure wrote:
    i understand what you mean but just remember one thing the vietnam war had a draft who a couple of presidents were drafted but did not go. there is always away around going to war.

    True, but I believe this war even more unnecessary than that...
  • ThecureThecure Posts: 814
    Abuskedti wrote:
    True, but I believe this war even more unnecessary than that...

    i don't know about that, i would say that both were fucked up.
    People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
    - Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)

    If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
    - Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    Byrnzie wrote:
    The revolution will not be televised.
    :cool:
    All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a thousand enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.
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