Dems control senate/house, when will they end the war?
musicismylife78
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Now, or at least when they take office in january, dems can no longer claim they have no power and are a minority. They have both the house and the senate.
They have the power to investigate the lies we were told to send our troops to war. My guess is that such an investigation would rival watergate. It would be huge. HUGE.
Secondly, they have the power to demand bush withdraw troops, demand that Bush end the war and demand that we cut off funding to the war.
I am so sick of this goddamn war that has claimed the lives of 2800 soldiers my age.
Its time to end the war, and bring them home.
The country obviously wants this, polls show this.
The question remains, will dems be the same spineless wimps they always have been and not do anything? Or will they end the war.
BRING THEM HOME!
They have the power to investigate the lies we were told to send our troops to war. My guess is that such an investigation would rival watergate. It would be huge. HUGE.
Secondly, they have the power to demand bush withdraw troops, demand that Bush end the war and demand that we cut off funding to the war.
I am so sick of this goddamn war that has claimed the lives of 2800 soldiers my age.
Its time to end the war, and bring them home.
The country obviously wants this, polls show this.
The question remains, will dems be the same spineless wimps they always have been and not do anything? Or will they end the war.
BRING THEM HOME!
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Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
right after they free charles manson..........
hehehe............
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
so what does that have to do with withdrawing troops? like it or not, there are going to be some changes in tactics in the war in iraq.
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Nothing.
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Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
It's too late, we can't just walk out of Iraq with it being in the condition it's in. Although some may see a huge troop increase as an act of escalation, it would actually be quite the opposite as it serves to de-escalate the insurgency and provide stability. Would you rather have another iran on our hands, an indefinite occupation with heavy American casualties, or a massive 2 year buildup which results in a stable, non-theocratic Iraqi government?
If the dems are smart, they'll take the advice of those in the field and in intelligence and do this right.
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Are you suggesting that the Democrats should begin trusting intelligence now that they are in power?
If we would have fought this war like we fought WWII, it would have been over long ago (Gulf War 1 anyone?). Of course if you're referring to fighting a nation with a uniformed force being war, as stated by the Geneva Convention, that ended May 1st, 2003.
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Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
I'm arguing that the military personnel, the CIA which can't establish an Iraqi intelligence agency due to security, and the Iraqi government as a whole are not able to make any progress towards stability in the current environment. Security is the key to stability.
After the initial raid on Baghdad Americans on the ground insisted that the Iraqi army and police be kept together to provide security. They also insisted that more American boots be put on the ground to assist the Iraqis, looking for a total of about 500,000 troops. Bremer and Rumsfeld wouldnt' send more troops AND formally disbanded the Iraqi army and security forces. Since that decision, the insurgency has strengthened. It is THE mistake that was made in post-war Iraq that has hindered progress. If the dems in Congress, Bush, or Gates (if he's confirmed) want an end to this conflict, they MUST rectify the mistakes made by their predecessors (Bush's former trust in Rummy and Cheney being his predecessing character).
You watch the news, do you really think we can just leave that country right now?
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Thank you for clarifying. That I agree with. More aptly the post-war decisions.
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Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
Ask yourself which decision you'd make:
a.) continue on in your old job working for a new boss and bringing home a paycheck to support your family.
or
b.) pass on the paycheck and decide your loyalty to saddam's principles are more important than your family. join an insurgency movement and live in squalor.
When we first invaded the # of attacks from "insurgents" was very low. After the military was disbanded the attacks rose exponentially with a majority of the weapons used against Americans coming from the Iraqi military cache.
From what I've read, the American leadership on the ground in Baghdad wanted to only dismiss the top tier or two of Iraqi leadership in all facets of government (military, ministries, etc.) being they would hold the greatest "loyalty" to Saddam. Rummy, his staff, and Bremer (upon his arrival in Iraq) insisted that the ENTIRE infrastructure must be dismissed being even the lowest tiers would have fierce loyalty to Saddam. I think that this thinking, even on the surface, was majorly flawed. In my example above, the lower people on the totem pole tend to really not care who in the hell they're working for, as long as they're getting paid. It's those at the top, those who hold power only beacuse of who they're working for, that don't want to see changes in leadership.
There are 49 Republicans, 49 Democrats, 1 Independent from Vermont who sides with the Democrats since leaving the Republican party and Joe Lieberman who has stated he wants to be known as an Independent Democrat and sides with the Republicans regarding the war. Well that to me seems likes a 50-50 split if everyone votes party lines with Vice President Cheney casting the tie-braking vote.
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We now have a very unique situation where Iraqi insurgents are not only attacking US soldiers but also and to even a larger degree their own people with the sole purpose of creating chaos and instability in their own country.
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