i think we need to put it in the iraqi citizens hands. We need to tell them, we will help you if you want it, that means the citizens take responsibility for ratting out the insurgents, the citizens doing everything they can to help the cause. They haven't shown (aside from some people joining the iraq army) a huge dedication to their own freedom / democracy. I'm sure it's not easy, but if we put the onus on the citizens to take control of their country for a common good; I think that will help more than anything. Just leave it to them. If they don't figure out a way to work together w/o violence, we tell them "hey we tried to help you but you didn't want the help apparently and we're out". I think it's come to this. I am all for supporting the troops, i'm all for a new iraq, but at some point the citizens of Iraq need to work together to help bring about peace and if they don't want help (and show they're willing to do their part), then I say we get out.
Bravo, this is the key to whole thing. They have lived in fear for so long its all they know. We have to show them we are in it till the end. IMO we have to start taking the fight back to the enemy. City to city, house to house, door to door. If our guys have to die, I would rather see them die fighting the enemy instead of being blown up riding around in their humvees doing nothing.
We have to finish the job or else it will haunt us for many years to come.
Well according to the newspaper reports from the Brisbane shows, Ed seems to think we will be bringing the troops home, or the new house and senate will at least.
I think he may be being a little too optimistic.
The Democrats voted for the war in the first place, and continue to cower and hide and not speak out harshly against the war, fearing they will be labeled unpatriotic, unamerican or worse.
Ed usually is spot on, but I think this may be wrong on his part.
The war, barring some massive antiwar movement much more radical than the current one, will continue until Bush hands his power to the next president in 2009. He said this in many speeches.
I didn't know Eddie Vedder was a political scientist?
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Hence my use of the word "We".
Bravo, this is the key to whole thing. They have lived in fear for so long its all they know. We have to show them we are in it till the end. IMO we have to start taking the fight back to the enemy. City to city, house to house, door to door. If our guys have to die, I would rather see them die fighting the enemy instead of being blown up riding around in their humvees doing nothing.
We have to finish the job or else it will haunt us for many years to come.
I didn't know Eddie Vedder was a political scientist?