Result of mentally damaged soldiers coming home
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The result of the war in Iraq on returning soldiers is quite stunning. This current war has resulted in more returning vets being dianosed with mental disorders than in Vietnam, which is hard to grasp, after all that was such a horrible war.
The result of hundreds of thousands of vets who are not only mentally damaged but are amputees or missing arms, legs etc... will be something our generation will have to pay for. In medical bills and other things.
The mental health of returning iraq vets has been profiled in carious newspapers and the recent killings of newborn infants by vets is also informative in that it shows that this thing really is going to hell and we are all suffering for it.
The school shootings in October and November etc... all can be said to result from the tense times
In November a 23 year old murdered his entire family of 5. This stuff isnt things that kids are born with, its learned. I doubt this kid did this because of the war, but it is all resulting and stemming from the times.
Look at Vietnam, in the late 70's, you
My question is sooner or later, the youth turn and rebel. Its happening as I said, in school shootings, in murdering of families, but sooner or later our generation turns on adults. I am not advocating this at all, and have worried about it since the war began. The war turns out killers and ruins the lives of soldiers and of people back at home. Sooner or later our generation starts killing our parents, which is sad. But inevitable in a society that okays war. A society that cares little if our generation goes to the gas chamber daily and is murdered and slaughtered in iraq.
Sooner or later, Bush will have to face the facts, maybe not because kids are rioting in colleges as the 60's showed, but that kids are murdering their parents and friends.
Examples of this are The Weathermen, Symbionese Liberation Army, Patty Hearst, Manson, Dr Jeffrey Macdonald.
When a war occurs and no one cares and an entire generation is thrown to the wolves, that generation has two chooses, die without a fight, or fight back. As a pacifist I think nonviolence is the way, but people are going to start killing people if the war continues. That makes me pretty upset.
The war produces people who are unstable, and its no surprise those same people come back to society (if they make it back) and are unstable.
The violence in society now, the escalation of it, the escalation of violence at home, and in iraq is a reflection. Its a reflection of us all.
Do we really want our society run like this? Are we really willing to sink to the level of murdering one another?
Its time to rise, its time to stop the goddamn war and bring the troops home. We cant stay there forever. The commanders say we cant escalate, but both parties want to.
Violence at home, murders death, all will continue unless the war is stopped.
What are you going to do? RISE!
The result of hundreds of thousands of vets who are not only mentally damaged but are amputees or missing arms, legs etc... will be something our generation will have to pay for. In medical bills and other things.
The mental health of returning iraq vets has been profiled in carious newspapers and the recent killings of newborn infants by vets is also informative in that it shows that this thing really is going to hell and we are all suffering for it.
The school shootings in October and November etc... all can be said to result from the tense times
In November a 23 year old murdered his entire family of 5. This stuff isnt things that kids are born with, its learned. I doubt this kid did this because of the war, but it is all resulting and stemming from the times.
Look at Vietnam, in the late 70's, you
My question is sooner or later, the youth turn and rebel. Its happening as I said, in school shootings, in murdering of families, but sooner or later our generation turns on adults. I am not advocating this at all, and have worried about it since the war began. The war turns out killers and ruins the lives of soldiers and of people back at home. Sooner or later our generation starts killing our parents, which is sad. But inevitable in a society that okays war. A society that cares little if our generation goes to the gas chamber daily and is murdered and slaughtered in iraq.
Sooner or later, Bush will have to face the facts, maybe not because kids are rioting in colleges as the 60's showed, but that kids are murdering their parents and friends.
Examples of this are The Weathermen, Symbionese Liberation Army, Patty Hearst, Manson, Dr Jeffrey Macdonald.
When a war occurs and no one cares and an entire generation is thrown to the wolves, that generation has two chooses, die without a fight, or fight back. As a pacifist I think nonviolence is the way, but people are going to start killing people if the war continues. That makes me pretty upset.
The war produces people who are unstable, and its no surprise those same people come back to society (if they make it back) and are unstable.
The violence in society now, the escalation of it, the escalation of violence at home, and in iraq is a reflection. Its a reflection of us all.
Do we really want our society run like this? Are we really willing to sink to the level of murdering one another?
Its time to rise, its time to stop the goddamn war and bring the troops home. We cant stay there forever. The commanders say we cant escalate, but both parties want to.
Violence at home, murders death, all will continue unless the war is stopped.
What are you going to do? RISE!
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PTSD is brain damage from what I understand.
In essense, the people who continue the war must weigh the idea, if you want the war to continue, you are supportive of kids murdering parents back at home, and of kids murdering their infant children.
In Michael Herr's excellent Dispatches, he spends several pages describing the loss of soul and loss of innocense and the "look" of vets in Vietnam. He said "you could look straight through them" the soldiers "were visibly dead" even though they were still breathing.
War causes people at home to act completely insane. And the longer the war continues the more people have to suffer unfortunatly.
Kids are rebelling against the war, not like their parents did, but in ways that are more self destructive and harmful. They arent out setting off firebombs in Berkeley but they are killing their family members and murdering others.
Simeple propostition, stop the war, and end this insane cycle of violence
The thing is... a lot of it isn't Post Traumatic Stress related... it is the result of a Kevlar Helmet slamming into your skull from a nearby bomb blast. Veterans with these types of injuries are not accepted under revised guidelines as a result of cutting veteran's benefits. The way the Bush administration sees it, if you still got your arms and legs attached... no harm, no foul... welcome home, now get to work.
It makes me sick... especially when him and his assholes go around saying 'Support The Troops'. Slashing their benefits isn't supporting them... it's abandoning them once they take off the uniform. As a Grateful Nation... we sure aren't acting like one.
Hail, Hail!!!
Once the amygdala is damaged, the individual may lack emotional response. Or as theists would call a "Soul".
So they come home and have no emotional experience of murder, it's just a natural function to them.
Or something to that effect.
Sounds like when they used to call PTSD "Shell Shock"
Bush is a dork, an idiot and a cocksmoker. Fuck him.
5 minutes in a warzone can fuck a person up for life.
PTSD is a psychological condition.
yes, it is relativity of experience...it is how you react to what you are experiencing..."a" may cause PTSD in me, but not in you, while "b" would cause it in you, but not in me...anyway...
the problem i have with comparing eras, like this, in the field of psychological disorders, is the changing of criteria. it's easier, now, to be diagnosed with a myriad of disorders. then there people that display some behaviors that are indices of PTSD but they are no afflicted with the actual disorder.
but, with that being said, i hate this war...and we shouldn't even be talking about this because it never should have happened.
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The fact is, if people weren't volunteering for a military, it wouldn't be real easy to fight a war.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
You, me, and everyone here at home are lucky some people volunteer for the military. It's very heartless of you to blame them for bearing the entire cost of this war. Lives, emotional health, stress on their families.
Have a little compassion for them, they're helping you stay at home and work where you want to!
I take it, there is no little magnet on the trunk of your car, right?
Hail, Hail!!!
I think that's a good point. Politicians fight wars because they can, especially fuckers like Bush.
Citizens fight wars to protect the country. Not to secure some oil or some shit.
But some are so young (17,18) when they join. So young. They don't know enough about anything in the world, and are recruited, maybe offered college money, and then they're in and can't get out and the damage is done. I have an almost 17 year old - she is so young. They are still babies.
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And the recruiters... they fucking lie...
"So... you like jets?" "You like Hawaii?" "You want to fly jests in Hawaii?" "Just sign here..."
...
Next thing you know, it's 126 degrees and you're in Iraq, poking at a box along the side of a road with a stick to see if it is rigged to explode.
Hail, Hail!!!
I'm assuming it was the ride of some recruiters stopping by that day. It was just pulling out of the parking lot.
I believe you. Many recruiters will say anything to get a recruit. Especially now . I feel sorry for them. They've got an exceedingly difficult job. My recruiter would flirt with my mom. It was sad.
The gov't really puts some veterans through the mill. If it's not outright denial of their claims, it's slashing thier coverage. :(
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War is connected to civil unrest. That is a fact, jack!
You want to know a shitty prank to pull on someone?
Fill out a recruiter card with someone you don't care for and send it in. He will get junk mail and phone calls everyday for a couple of years. A guy I knew in High School did that to an asshole at school. Your tax dollars print out an awful lot of brochures.
Hail, Hail!!!
Nope.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Good point.