Why do people praise Guiliani?
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Even non republicans routinely praise Guiliani for his actions in the immediate aftermath of the planes hitting the towers.
I have been vocal on this board about my hatred of cops. But wouldnt the appropriate praise and honor, be due to the police and firefighters and ordinary citizens who helped, assisted, and gave their lives to rescue others.
I mean, what did Guiliani do? Hes a politician, a priveledged white man, who lives in a mansion. What difference does it make to him what happens?
The real heros were the people who rushed INTO the buildings to save others, who rushed into the fire and smoke.
How does Guiliani deserve to be mentioned in the breath of those heros?
I dont live in NY, and have lived on the west coast my whole life. That said, I dont get Guiliani's power over NY'ers.
This is a man who in his years as mayor, was procensorship, was blantantly opposed to homeless and less priveledged members of NY, threw a bunch of people in jail (African American males), and turned the other way when Ny police were consistently under fire for their horrific treatment of African Americans in ghetto's (the raping and abuse of Louima, the murder of Amadou Diallo shot 41 times because the police thought his wallet was a gun, and of course his holier than thou attitude reguarding god and morals, he seems opposed to clinton's wandering ways and womanizing, yet is a womanizer himself, he is for the 10 commandments being displayed yet, doesnt seem opposed to thou shalt not kill, and thou shalt not commit adultery.
finally he continues to support Bernard Kerik, that wonderful human being, who cheated on his wife multiple times, lied, and is involved in a major scandal. This idiot took Judith Regan, and had relations with her, in a place set up after 9/11 to help and house wounded firefighters.
Again I ask, Whats so amazing about Guiliani? He doesnt do a goddamn thing for me. I dont think he did a goddamn thing for anyone effected by 9/11 either.
He's a liar, a hypocrite, someone who allows police to get away with rape and murder, an adulterer who demands others are faithful while he is free to cheat, lie and hurt his significant other.
I have been vocal on this board about my hatred of cops. But wouldnt the appropriate praise and honor, be due to the police and firefighters and ordinary citizens who helped, assisted, and gave their lives to rescue others.
I mean, what did Guiliani do? Hes a politician, a priveledged white man, who lives in a mansion. What difference does it make to him what happens?
The real heros were the people who rushed INTO the buildings to save others, who rushed into the fire and smoke.
How does Guiliani deserve to be mentioned in the breath of those heros?
I dont live in NY, and have lived on the west coast my whole life. That said, I dont get Guiliani's power over NY'ers.
This is a man who in his years as mayor, was procensorship, was blantantly opposed to homeless and less priveledged members of NY, threw a bunch of people in jail (African American males), and turned the other way when Ny police were consistently under fire for their horrific treatment of African Americans in ghetto's (the raping and abuse of Louima, the murder of Amadou Diallo shot 41 times because the police thought his wallet was a gun, and of course his holier than thou attitude reguarding god and morals, he seems opposed to clinton's wandering ways and womanizing, yet is a womanizer himself, he is for the 10 commandments being displayed yet, doesnt seem opposed to thou shalt not kill, and thou shalt not commit adultery.
finally he continues to support Bernard Kerik, that wonderful human being, who cheated on his wife multiple times, lied, and is involved in a major scandal. This idiot took Judith Regan, and had relations with her, in a place set up after 9/11 to help and house wounded firefighters.
Again I ask, Whats so amazing about Guiliani? He doesnt do a goddamn thing for me. I dont think he did a goddamn thing for anyone effected by 9/11 either.
He's a liar, a hypocrite, someone who allows police to get away with rape and murder, an adulterer who demands others are faithful while he is free to cheat, lie and hurt his significant other.
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And keep in mind this is the tip of the iceberg on these crooks. I have detailed bigger scandals and corruption through family members that they never even brought up on this list on my blog. To much crime, not enough column length, so it goes in journalism.
Did you see the piece the New York Post and MSNBC Keith O did on Rudy doing business with 9/11 terrorist funders?
Or Hillary on google video (a top video of all time there) committing campaign finance fraud on video relating to stan lee of spiderman fame, cher, the hollywood Gala? And her brother Hugh taking $100,000+ a piece to get pardons for coke dealers and mafioso from then President brother in law, Bill? And no money returned, Hill's brother and husband in the clear, no apology, no talkie, talk. And Marc Rich pardon for bribe to the Bill Clinton Presidential Library run by Bill and Hill. To the Shieks in Saudia Arabia and Dubai paying Bill Clinton money as a consultant. Totally shady to do as an ex-President, just like a BUSH. And while his wife runs for President. Not to mention the shieks are dictators that whip women for being raped. Bill Clinton's bosses. He could work for anybody but the $$$$ talks. No morals, any of them on this list and many more. Tip of the iceberg on it all. Except for RON PAUL is honest and has a shot. I'm telling you he might not win the GOP but he has a real fighting chance. 3rd place in Iowa and moving up in NH and can and will run 50 states, mark my words.
Some other crooks that should always be on these lists even though some aren't serving elected offices. They still pretend to serve and sometimes take appointments, advise and fly for free on the govt. dime, have SS protection, etc.
*Bill Clinton
*Dick Cheney
*George W. Bush
*George H. W. Bush
*Henry Kissinger
Start with these folks and work up and down...
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Judicial Watch Announces List of Washington's "Ten Most Wanted Corrupt Politicians" for 2007
Washington, DC –Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, today released its 2007 list of Washington's "Ten Most Wanted Corrupt Politicians." The list, in alphabetical order, includes:
1. Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY): In addition to her long and sordid ethics record, Senator Hillary Clinton took a lot of heat in 2007 – and rightly so – for blocking the release her official White House records. Many suspect these records contain a treasure trove of information related to her role in a number of serious Clinton-era scandals. Moreover, in March 2007, Judicial Watch filed an ethics complaint against Senator Clinton for filing false financial disclosure forms with the U.S. Senate (again). And Hillary's top campaign contributor, Norman Hsu, was exposed as a felon and a fugitive from justice in 2007. Hsu pleaded guilt to one count of grand theft for defrauding investors as part of a multi-million dollar Ponzi scheme.
2. Rep. John Conyers (D-MI): Conyers reportedly repeatedly violated the law and House ethics rules, forcing his staff to serve as his personal servants, babysitters, valets and campaign workers while on the government payroll. While the House Ethics Committee investigated these allegations in 2006, and substantiated a number of the accusations against Conyers, the committee blamed the staff and required additional administrative record-keeping and employee training. Judicial Watch obtained documentation in 2007 from a former Conyers staffer that sheds new light on the activities and conduct on the part of the Michigan congressman, which appear to be at a minimum inappropriate and likely unlawful. Judicial Watch called on the Attorney General in 2007 to investigate the matter.
3. Senator Larry Craig (R-ID): In one of the most shocking scandals of 2007, Senator Craig was caught by police attempting to solicit sex in a Minneapolis International Airport men's bathroom during the summer. Senator Craig reportedly "sent signals" to a police officer in an adjacent stall that he wanted to engage in sexual activity. When the police officer showed Craig his police identification under the bathroom stall divider and pointed toward the exit, the senator reportedly exclaimed 'No!'" When asked to produce identification, Craig presented police his U.S. Senate business card and said, "What do you think of that?" The power play didn't work. Craig was arrested, charged and entered a guilty plea. Despite enormous pressure from his Republican colleagues to resign from the Senate, Craig refused.
4. Senator Diane Feinstein (D-CA): As a member of the Senate Appropriations Committee's subcommittee on military construction, Feinstein reviewed military construction government contracts, some of which were ultimately awarded to URS Corporation and Perini, companies then owned by Feinstein's husband, Richard Blum. While the Pentagon ultimately awards military contracts, there is a reason for the review process. The Senate's subcommittee on Military Construction's approval carries weight. Sen. Feinstein, therefore, likely had influence over the decision making process. Senator Feinstein also attempted to undermine ethics reform in 2007, arguing in favor of a perk that allows members of Congress to book multiple airline flights and then cancel them without financial penalty. Judicial Watch's investigation into this matter is ongoing.
5. Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R-NY): Giuliani came under fire in late 2007 after it was discovered the former New York mayor's office "billed obscure city agencies for tens of thousands of dollars in security expenses amassed during the time when he was beginning an extramarital relationship with future wife Judith Nathan in the Hamptons…" ABC News also reported that Giuliani provided Nathan with a police vehicle and a city driver at taxpayer expense. All of this news came on the heels of the federal indictment on corruption charges of Giuliani's former Police Chief and business partner Bernard Kerik, who pleaded guilty in 2006 to accepting a $165,000 bribe in the form of renovations to his Bronx apartment from a construction company attempting to land city contracts.
6. Governor Mike Huckabee (R-AR): Governor Huckabee enjoyed a meteoric rise in the polls in December 2007, which prompted a more thorough review of his ethics record. According to The Associated Press: "[Huckabee's] career has also been colored by 14 ethics complaints and a volley of questions about his integrity, ranging from his management of campaign cash to his use of a nonprofit organization to subsidize his income to his destruction of state computer files on his way out of the governor's office." And what was Governor Huckabee's response to these ethics allegations? Rather than cooperating with investigators, Huckabee sued the state ethics commission twice and attempted to shut the ethics process down.
7. I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby: Libby, former Chief of Staff to Vice President Dick Cheney, was sentenced to 30 months in prison and fined $250,000 for lying and obstructing the Valerie Plame CIA leak investigation. Libby was found guilty of four felonies -- two counts of perjury, one count of making false statements to the FBI and one count of obstructing justice – all serious crimes. Unfortunately, Libby was largely let off the hook. In an appalling lack of judgment, President Bush issued "Executive Clemency" to Libby and commuted the sentence.
8. Senator Barack Obama (D-IL): A "Dishonorable Mention" last year, Senator Obama moves onto the "ten most wanted" list in 2007. In 2006, it was discovered that Obama was involved in a suspicious real estate deal with an indicted political fundraiser, Antoin "Tony" Rezko. In 2007, more reports surfaced of deeper and suspicious business and political connections It was reported that just two months after he joined the Senate, Obama purchased $50,000 worth of stock in speculative companies whose major investors were his biggest campaign contributors. One of the companies was a biotech concern that benefited from legislation Obama pushed just two weeks after the senator purchased $5,000 of the company's shares. Obama was also nabbed conducting campaign business in his Senate office, a violation of federal law.
9. Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA): House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who promised a new era of ethics enforcement in the House of Representatives, snuck a $25 million gift to her husband, Paul Pelosi, in a $15 billion Water Resources Development Act recently passed by Congress. The pet project involved renovating ports in Speaker Pelosi's home base of San Francisco. Pelosi just happens to own apartment buildings near the areas targeted for improvement, and will almost certainly experience a significant boost in property value as a result of Pelosi's earmark. Earlier in the year, Pelosi found herself in hot water for demanding access to a luxury Air Force jet to ferry the Speaker and her entourage back and forth from San Francisco non-stop, in unprecedented request which was wisely rejected by the Pentagon. And under Pelosi's leadership, the House ethics process remains essentially shut down – which protects members in both parties from accountability.
10. Senator Harry Reid (D-NV): Over the last few years, Reid has been embroiled in a series of scandals that cast serious doubt on his credibility as a self-professed champion of government ethics, and 2007 was no different. According to The Los Angeles Times, over the last four years, Reid has used his influence in Washington to help a developer, Havey Whittemore, clear obstacles for a profitable real estate deal. As the project advanced, the Times reported, "Reid received tens of thousands of dollars in campaign contributions from Whittemore." Whittemore also hired one of Reid's sons (Leif) as his personal lawyer and then promptly handed the junior Reid the responsibility of negotiating the real estate deal with federal officials. Leif Reid even called his father's office to talk about how to obtain the proper EPA permits, a clear conflict of interest.
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its all about lowering standards hehe.
Yeah.
Key word there is "LOOKED".
This is like the guy who skipped school 9 out of 10 days of the year, showing up for the honor awards presentation, dressed to the nines.
Yeah. He LOOKED like a real scholar.
I mean, WTF.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
I, fortunately, did not lose any family or friends as a result of the terrorist attacks. However, it is completely disrespectful for people to categorize Guiliani as a "hero" for doing absolutely nothing of consequence while the real "heroes" (police officers, firefighters, doctors, etc.) did all of the hard work, and in many cases, lost their own lives.
If Guiliani was a decent person, he'd denounce any person who labels him a "hero." Also, he'd stop milking September 11, 2001 for everything it is worth politically.
"You need the patience of like a National Geographic photographer sitting underneath the bush in a tent, trying to get a picture of zebras fucking or something for the first time." -Eddie Vedder
Let's face it 9/11 is ALL he's got, this country will NEVER elect a person like him for president with a lisp.
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NY Firefighters aren't calling him a hero. They say their fellow firefighters died because Rudy used their radios to give a favor to a preferred contractor. They didn't work and some of them died because of it. And then Rudy lied and said they ignored the warning to evacuate when most NY fierfighters never heard the order. Videos are on youtube. He also told people it was safe to go down to ground zero when it wasn't. He is an incompetent, corrupt liar profiteer. Makes millions off the deaths while families still suffer and people die of cancer from wtc and he gives none of his millions paid after 9/11 to them.
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