Jeff Luers decision reversed
musicismylife78
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Eugene Oregon anarchist Jeff Luers has spent 7 years in jail for setting fire to 3 SUV's in a Romania parking lot. His act of arson killed no one, injured no one. It ruined the SUV's though. As a result of Luers association with Earth First and other activist groups he was sentenced to an absurd 22 years. Yes you read that right, 22 years for setting fire to SUV's.
Evidently the judges reviewed his case and felt 22 years was too harsh, and the other day said he could potentially get 15 years knocked off the sentence
This is a huge victory for society and the activist community. I have signed numerous petitions demanding his release, written him letters etc... and have supported him fully.
The lynchpin in this case has always been my hypothetical. Say an average Joe, committed a similar offense. Say you went to your local Nike store and burned several hundred dollars worth of stuff in an act of arson. This act, this hypothetical act kills no one, and injures no one. What do you think would be the just punishment? What would the courts and judges give this person in punishment? My guess is the person would be punished by not given a 22 year sentence.
One of the more poignant aspects of this case is hearing Free write his dispatches from the Salem Oregon Pen. One of the more touching statements was that he felt that 22 years was tough because by the time he got out the whole world would be different, his parents would be dead... etc...
While nothing can be done to give this kid his 7 years back, that he spent wrongly jailed in a cell, this is a huge day.
Jeff Luers is a hero to many, myself included, a person who stood up for his beliefs, and as a pacifist i condemn his actions, I still feel 22 years is a truely sick sick sentence.
Free Jeff Luers, and JAIL THE REAL CRIMINALS!!
Evidently the judges reviewed his case and felt 22 years was too harsh, and the other day said he could potentially get 15 years knocked off the sentence
This is a huge victory for society and the activist community. I have signed numerous petitions demanding his release, written him letters etc... and have supported him fully.
The lynchpin in this case has always been my hypothetical. Say an average Joe, committed a similar offense. Say you went to your local Nike store and burned several hundred dollars worth of stuff in an act of arson. This act, this hypothetical act kills no one, and injures no one. What do you think would be the just punishment? What would the courts and judges give this person in punishment? My guess is the person would be punished by not given a 22 year sentence.
One of the more poignant aspects of this case is hearing Free write his dispatches from the Salem Oregon Pen. One of the more touching statements was that he felt that 22 years was tough because by the time he got out the whole world would be different, his parents would be dead... etc...
While nothing can be done to give this kid his 7 years back, that he spent wrongly jailed in a cell, this is a huge day.
Jeff Luers is a hero to many, myself included, a person who stood up for his beliefs, and as a pacifist i condemn his actions, I still feel 22 years is a truely sick sick sentence.
Free Jeff Luers, and JAIL THE REAL CRIMINALS!!
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We may disagree on the length of the sentence but I fail to see how you can argue he was wongly jailed.
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
As I said before, say you went to your local store and set fire to the place. No one was killed, no one injured. What would your sentence be? It sure AS HELL wouldnt be 22 years.
He wasnt a serial arsonist. He is an anarchist, who believes violence against property is justified, but as far as I know he isnt a serial arsonist.
The fact remains, he spent the last 7 years in jail. Is 7 years justifiable punishment for his crime.
Again one cant stress enough the fact he killed no one in the arson and didnt injure anyone.
The fact that he did this, he set fire to the suv's at 2am was a clear obvious attempt to make sure that NO ONE was injured or killed. After all who is going to be in a Car dealership at such an hour.
Its clear to anyone who chooses to look, that 22 years was given because he is a radical activist. Had he been an average law abiding citizen, he wouldnt have recieved such a sentence.
You have to ask yourself, what good the prison system is affording society. What good is it, if we send people to jail not based on actual harm or threat or deserved punishment, but rather their political persuasion.
Had Luers killed or harmed anyone physically this all would be different. But 22 years for arson? COME ON!!! FREE JEFF LUERS, START THE REVOLTION!
RISE! RISE! ARISE!
Odd aint it!
odd, but so was his decision to burn businesses instead of run for office or lobby his representatives.
not really.
Although I would never engage in such an action, I cant understand his motivations and his beliefs.
Anyone who sets fire to some SUV's is acting out of extreme frustration, disillusionment, and lack of power. Things have to get really bad to resort to something like that. You have to feel like you are completely powerless.
I share many of the same feelings.
The question becomes is it right for taxpayers to have to fund this crap, to have to support judges and juries and lawmakers with grudges against political activists?
Had Jeff Luers been a typical teenager, a good kid, but made a little mistake, or a big one depending one your point of view, no one would be questioning him. He would be in major trouble, my guess is that he would have to pay some fines, but I dont think an average citizen, an average person would have to spend time in jail like he did.
Punishment should fit the crime. Setting arson fires is a crime, but I dont think it warrant 22 years in jail. Fair punishment would be having Jeff Luers pay for the damages to the cars and the car lot. That seems more than fair.
It puzzles me when the truth is exposed, many people even on this board, pearl jam fans, who I would assume are more intelligent than the average rock fan, continue to believe lies and b.s. given by society.
In what world is Jeff Luers sentence fair? How does 3 totaled suv's, no causualties and no injuries to anyone, how does that work out to 22 years in jail?
I dont know how anyone can look at this case and say the judges and juries acted fairly and that justice was carried out.
You have heros who believe it's OK to destroy other people's property and commit serious crimes? How can you even look at yourself in the mirror?
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
What kind of sentence would you would have been fair for those guys convicted in the Enron scandal. They didn't kill anyone either. Heck, they didn't destroy anyone's property.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
What truth is exposed by burning cars?
But the sentence is too long. Seven years seems long enough.
i assume, then, that you can also understand a guy who blows up an abortion clinic, as long as it is closed at the time?
i just had to point out that every time i see this from you i cannot help but burst out laughing. thanks for the smile