Kucinich shows he is only candidate with brain

musicismylife78

Heres an article from Derrick jackson in the Boston Globe. I love what Biden says. It shows Dennis is the only propeace candidate. All the others could care less about human life

The Democrats still blink. Debate moderator Wolf Blitzer asked Dennis Kucinich if he would try to knock off Osama bin Laden with a missile even if it would kill some innocent civilians.Kucinich said, “I don’t think that a president of the United States who believes in peace and who wants to create peace in the world is going to be using assassination as a tool.”

The rest of the Democrats crawled into a hole of vacillation.

Barack Obama said, “I think Dennis is right. I don’t believe in assassinations, but Osama bin Laden has declared war on us, killed 3,000 people, and under existing law, including international law, when you’ve got a military target like bin Laden, you take him out. And if you have 20 minutes you do it swiftly and surely.”

A few moments later, Blitzer asked the candidates to raise their hands if they would authorize an assassination even if “innocent civilians would die.”

Everyone except Kucinich limply raised their hands.

Joe Biden chimed in, “it would depend on how many innocent civilians.”

John Edwards added, “There’s not information, not enough information.”

Hillary Clinton said, “That is a very difficult to answer in the abstract. . . . You have to be very careful about how you proceed. So you know, yes, if we could do it without a tremendous amount of collateral damage, I think, maybe with one or two exceptions, we would give the order to do it.”

So for all the talk about who among the Democrats is most against the war, Iraqi civilians remain too abstract to say “Enough!”

Yes, we lost 3,000 people during 9/11. But between 64,000 and 600,000 Iraqi civilians are now dead because of our invasion and the resulting civil war.

Are we not done killing innocents in the name of bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, and weapons of mass destruction?

By their vacillation, the Democrats still say no. The Republicans are laughing.

blackredyellow

What do any of their comments have to do with having a brain? Just because you don't agree with someone doesn't mean the are not intelligent.

Abookamongstthemany

Dennis always makes me proud.

angelica

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

Dennis always makes me proud.

When they asked him that question I was thinking maybe he'd disappoint me. It seemed like a tough question, especially in that type of debate where he could very easily look bad. And instead he inspired me.

angelica

blackredyellow wrote:

What do any of their comments have to do with having a brain? Just because you don't agree with someone doesn't mean the are not intelligent.

Maybe he meant an "evolved" brain, evolutionarily speaking.

TheVoiceInside

blackredyellow wrote:

What do any of their comments have to do with having a brain? Just because you don't agree with someone doesn't mean the are not intelligent.

They might have brains but the sure as hell dont have any heart.

angelica

TheVoiceInside wrote:

They might have brains but the sure as hell dont have any heart.

Oh, man, you said it better than I did!

TheVoiceInside

angelica wrote:

Oh, man, you said it better than I did!

That debate last night was an example of everything that is wrong with american politics. To me the two candidates that were the least appealing physically wise and least articulate were the ones that made the most sense. Its no coincidence that they were positioned in the corners.

Abookamongstthemany

angelica wrote:

When they asked him that question I was thinking maybe he'd disappoint me. It seemed like a tough question, especially in that type of debate where he could very easily look bad. And instead he inspired me.

I'm watching it on youtube now.

Yes, he could easily say what he thought he was 'supposed' to say. But he always refuses to do that! On Bill Maher when Bill said 'C'mon, you can't be against all war?' And Dennis wouldn't change his stance and say well ok maybe...he stood his ground because to him his principles come before popularity.

angelica

TheVoiceInside wrote:

That debate last night was an example of everything that is wrong with american politics. To me the two candidates that were the least appealing physically wise and least articulate were the ones that made the most sense. Its no coincidence that they were positioned in the corners.

I hear you and agree!

Abookamongstthemany

TheVoiceInside wrote:

That debate last night was an example of everything that is wrong with american politics. To me the two candidates that were the least appealing physically wise and least articulate were the ones that made the most sense. Its no coincidence that they were positioned in the corners.

I have to say...Dennis is very articulate. He just says things you don't hear so often in the media.

my2hands

TheVoiceInside wrote:

Its no coincidence that they were positioned in the corners.

just part of the rigged game... take a look who was front and center and who was hidden on the sides

the presidential race has become a made for TV gameshow...

my2hands

i think i need to volunteer some time to the Kucinich camp for this election... anyone have any helpfull info?

angelica

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

I have to say...Dennis is very articulate. He just says things you don't hear so often in the media.

Yeah, I agree. What I see is that he's very clear, and simple and real, and not at all based on the contrived image stuff. He uses great communication to showase what he's saying, to effectively get it across, but he's not substituting his message, with gloss and shine and that contrived "charisma". He's got the beautiful glow, and that integrity shining through.

Abookamongstthemany

my2hands wrote:

i think i need to volunteer some time to the Kucinich camp for this election... anyone have any helpfull info?

I volunteered a few months back but still haven't received any material through the mail. I think now is the right time to really start getting out there and spreading his message...it's not too early. I'll go see if I can find a link.

granparocks

i have a question for backers of kucinich.

to me, representative democracy in this country relies on two things. a strong leader committed to the princilples of representative democracy with an ability to unite people to a common cause. our democracy works slowly and relies heavily on compromise to solve big problems (see immigration reform).

this is what worries me about kucinich. my gut tells me that he'd be a very poor compromiser, and very much a divider. i see a country divided, and i worry that he would just sharpen this divide. his vision doesn't leave much room for those with different viewpoints.

what do you guys think of this statement? i like a lot of what he says, and in an ideal world i think his ideas would ring beautifully. i just wonder how you think he would do as president in this not-so-ideal world.

thank you.

Abookamongstthemany

granparocks wrote:

i have a question for backers of kucinich.

to me, representative democracy in this country relies on two things. a strong leader committed to the princilples of representative democracy with an ability to unite people to a common cause. our democracy works slowly and relies heavily on compromise to solve big problems (see immigration reform).

this is what worries me about kucinich. my gut tells me that he'd be a very poor compromiser, and very much a divider. i see a country divided, and i worry that he would just sharpen this divide. his vision doesn't leave much room for those with different viewpoints.

what do you guys think of this statement? i like a lot of what he says, and in an ideal world i think his ideas would ring beautifully. i just wonder how you think he would do as president in this not-so-ideal world.

thank you.

I see the world as quickly evolving towards Kucinich's world view. I see it more and more everyday. We, as a whole, may not be ready for him in 2008...as much as I would love that....but we are getting there and I'm hopeful now more than ever.

angelica

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

I see the world as quickly evolving towards Kucinich's world view. I see it more and more everyday. We, as a whole, may not be ready for him in 2008...as much as I would love that....but we are getting there and I'm hopeful now more than ever.

I agree. Major evidence of this evolution within America alone is that a person such as Kucinich is in the running, stating his evolved views publicly, where people far and wide are being exposed to them, and treating it like it's par for the course. Kucinich is a channel. Ultimately, "there is nothing more powerful than an idea whose time has come"*. He's bringing new thought, in all seriousness, to the masses--thought that is laughed at in other areas of life. He's showing people the sense in this thought, in tackling basic issues. He's living representation of a new way--a better way. These ideas are filtering into the mainstream, exactly at the right time for the right reasons. We get to witness this. I'm thrilled, personally. I'm also in the moment, appreciating it for what it is, rather than being attached to a particular outcome. It's when people get the ego centered on controlling life that we begin to mutate and distort it rather than celebrating and cherishing it.

People find this thought discordant, for the most part--it's so different. People resonate to the usual war/killing stuff, because it's the evil that they know. All the while people think Kucinich is not a threat, they are opening their minds to hearing his very proactive and evolved ways, which is planting seeds for a new day. Things are usually not what we think they are.






*Victor Hugo

Abookamongstthemany

angelica wrote:

I agree. Major evidence of this evolution within America alone is that a person such as Kucinich is in the running, stating his evolved views publicly, where people far and wide are being exposed to them, and treating it like it's par for the course. Kucinich is a channel. Ultimately, "there is nothing more powerful than an idea whose time has come"*. He's bringing new thought, in all seriousness, to the masses--thought that is laughed at in other areas of life. He's showing people the sense in this thought, in tackling basic issues. He's living representation of a new way--a better way. These ideas are filtering into the mainstream, exactly at the right time for the right reasons. We get to witness this. I'm thrilled, personally. I'm also in the moment, appreciating it for what it is, rather than being attached to a particular outcome. It's when people get the ego centered on controlling life that we begin to mutate and distort it rather than celebrating and cherishing it.

People find this thought discordant, for the most part--it's so different. People resonate to the usual war/killing stuff, because it's the evil that they know. All the while people think Kucinich is not a threat, they are opening their minds to hearing his very proactive and evolved ways, which is planting seeds for a new day. Things are usually not what we think they are.






*Victor Hugo

Very well put, angelica!

angelica

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

Very well put, angelica!

Thanks.

TrixieCat

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

I have to say...Dennis is very articulate. He just says things you don't hear so often in the media.

Exactly! I was impressed with him last night. Still completely unsure. I thought he did a good job getting his points across.