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90 year old shoots self over foreclosure

ucsbledbetterucsbledbetter Posts: 173
edited October 2008 in A Moving Train
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/10/03/eviction.suicide.attempt/index.html

This is incredible and very sad it has come to this.

I also heard of another woman who had a $250,000 life insurance policy and ended up taking her own life so that her family could take her life insurance money and pay off the house they were about to lose.
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    Indian SummerIndian Summer Posts: 2,296
    sucks for her and her family....because nearly all life insurance policies have suicide provisions.
    "It's all happening"
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    ucsbledbetterucsbledbetter Posts: 173
    update to the lady who shot herself, Fannie Mae is forgiving the mortgage, so the lesson here is if you are willing to shoot yourself you don't have to pay for your house!
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    blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    ucsbledbetter wrote:
    update to the lady who shot herself, Fannie Mae is forgiving the mortgage, so the lesson here is if you are willing to shoot yourself you don't have to pay for your house!

    You figure, what does Fannie Mae care about losing a few bucks, they just got a big ass check from our government.
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    THCTHC Posts: 525
    ucsbledbetter wrote:
    update to the lady who shot herself, Fannie Mae is forgiving the mortgage, so the lesson here is if you are willing to shoot yourself you don't have to pay for your house!

    this finally puts a face to this issue for me....
    its soo bad...and old lady will shoot herself in the face....
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    binauralsoundsbinauralsounds Posts: 1,357
    I just wanna know if the f'n govt. is gonna bail me out when my shit goes south??????
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    THCTHC Posts: 525
    binauralsounds wrote:
    I just wanna know if the f'n govt. is gonna bail me out when my shit goes south??????

    No...the only 'people' that get bailed out are those that are incorporated...
    “Kept in a small bowl, the goldfish will remain small. With more space, the fish can grow double, triple, or quadruple its size.”
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    kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,323
    this happened here in Massachusetts a few months ago, except the woman was only 53 and a mother... and the shot was fatal.
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    spongersponger Posts: 3,160
    hartamh wrote:
    Such a sad and tragic story :( Hasn't this gone WAY TO FAR people taking their own lives because of the fear of losing their homes :mad:

    What do you suggest as a solution?
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    CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    sponger wrote:
    What do you suggest as a solution?
    I suggest socialism. the great depression had millions homeless while houses stood empty. Millions starved while food rotted. if you couldn't pay for it you didn't get it, regardless if was available or not. if you couldn't afford it you lived on the street, eating out of trash cans. and fuck that. why pay to survive when the world has plenty of resources to sustain you. Why pay to eat when there's plenty to go around? Why pay for medical care when its readily avaliable?

    Societies have plenty to sustain us, its only through capitalism and greed that we are denied these essentials.


    There's plenty for all.
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    spongersponger Posts: 3,160
    Commy wrote:
    I suggest socialism. the great depression had millions homeless while houses stood empty. Millions starved while food rotted. if you couldn't pay for it you didn't get it, regardless if was available or not. if you couldn't afford it you lived on the street, eating out of trash cans. and fuck that. why pay to survive when the world has plenty of resources to sustain you. Why pay to eat when there's plenty to go around? Why pay for medical care when its readily avaliable?

    Societies have plenty to sustain us, its only through capitalism and greed that we are denied these essentials.


    There's plenty for all.

    If there was an actual example of a true socialist state achieving those ends, I might agree with you.
    reigning champion

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    CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    sponger wrote:
    If there was an actual example of a true socialist state achieving those ends, I might agree with you.
    right on.
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    QuestionAuthorityQuestionAuthority Idaho Posts: 327
    Commy wrote:
    I suggest socialism. the great depression had millions homeless while houses stood empty. Millions starved while food rotted. if you couldn't pay for it you didn't get it, regardless if was available or not. if you couldn't afford it you lived on the street, eating out of trash cans. and fuck that. why pay to survive when the world has plenty of resources to sustain you. Why pay to eat when there's plenty to go around? Why pay for medical care when its readily avaliable?

    Societies have plenty to sustain us, its only through capitalism and greed that we are denied these essentials.


    There's plenty for all.


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    __ Posts: 6,651
    Commy wrote:
    I suggest socialism. the great depression had millions homeless while houses stood empty. Millions starved while food rotted. if you couldn't pay for it you didn't get it, regardless if was available or not. if you couldn't afford it you lived on the street, eating out of trash cans. and fuck that. why pay to survive when the world has plenty of resources to sustain you. Why pay to eat when there's plenty to go around? Why pay for medical care when its readily avaliable?

    Societies have plenty to sustain us, its only through capitalism and greed that we are denied these essentials.


    There's plenty for all.

    EXACTLY! Too bad the "American way" is to let people starve if they can't pull themselves up by their bootstraps. No wonder people hate us; we don't even care about our own people.
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    CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    scb wrote:
    EXACTLY! Too bad the "American way" is to let people starve if they can't pull themselves up by their bootstraps. No wonder people hate us; we don't even care about our own people.
    yeah. we let our own suffer. is it that hard to imagine the world holds us in such low regard?
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    spongersponger Posts: 3,160
    scb wrote:
    EXACTLY! Too bad the "American way" is to let people starve if they can't pull themselves up by their bootstraps. No wonder people hate us; we don't even care about our own people.

    Yeah, that's why our social programs are stretched to the limits with welfare, unemployment, and state and federal medical hand-outs.

    Commy was referring to the crash of 1929, and back in those days, the programs that we have today didn't exist.

    So, no, we don't exactly let people "starve." In fact, anyone in any major city can find free food one way or another.

    So, in summation, you don't really know what the american way really is. But, for some reason, you like to pretend that you do probably because within your inner circle, it's like super cool to talk trash about the country that you hate so much, but refuse to leave. lmao.
    reigning champion

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    __ Posts: 6,651
    sponger wrote:
    Yeah, that's why our social programs are stretched to the limits with welfare, unemployment, and state and federal medical hand-outs.

    Commy was referring to the crash of 1929, and back in those days, the programs that we have today didn't exist.

    So, no, we don't exactly let people "starve." In fact, anyone in any major city can find free food one way or another.

    So, in summation, you don't really know what the american way really is. But, for some reason, you like to pretend that you do probably because within your inner circle, it's like super cool to talk trash about the country that you hate so much, but refuse to leave. lmao.

    Our social programs are stretched to the limits because we set limits, not because everyone is cared for. There are still plenty of people who go to bed hungry, who sleep on the streets, who don't have proper healthcare, etc. More than 18,000 American adults die annually from lack of medical coverage, according to the Institute of Medicine. Sure, we help people more than we did in 1929 but, when a country as wealthy as ours still has so many people in need, we obviously don't care for people enough. And many people (seems like you included) think we should do even less.

    I'm not going to leave this country. This is my country. It's the people who care more about their own greed than the well-being of others who should leave.
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    spongersponger Posts: 3,160
    scb wrote:
    Our social programs are stretched to the limits because we set limits, not because everyone is cared for. There are still plenty of people who go to bed hungry, who sleep on the streets, who don't have proper healthcare, etc. More than 18,000 American adults die annually from lack of medical coverage, according to the Institute of Medicine. Sure, we help people more than we did in 1929 but, when a country as wealthy as ours still has so many people in need, we obviously don't care for people enough. And many people (seems like you included) think we should do even less.

    I'm not going to leave this country. This is my country. It's the people who care more about their own greed than the well-being of others who should leave.

    Why do you think those limits are set? The money that goes to pay for those programs comes right out of tax payer paychecks.

    How much money do you donate? How much do you really care? Do you want to donate half your paycheck to your neighbors?

    Consider this: A large portion of social program payouts are fraud. That's right....these "starving" people are frauding the government because they don't want to get a job. In southern california, welfare fraud is estimated at 50%.

    So, you think we should just start dumping more money into that fire?

    I'll give you props for the medical statistics. That system is clearly broken. But, keep in mind that state and federal government medical subsidies amount in the hundreds of billions.

    The system is just imperfect, not inherently immoral like you like to pretend it to be.
    reigning champion

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