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 I would argue it comes across as much worse than childish and unserious.Tim Simmons said:It’s just comes across as childish and unserious, that’s all.0
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            Waaaaaaaaah, waaaaaaaaaH, waaaaaaaaaah, happy holidays, Christmas was cancelled! Waaaaaaaaaah, so mean! Triggered much! Must be a white Christmas somewhere!
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 This post is comedic gold.mickeyrat said:battle1 said:
 Yes, one disturbing “central fact”.mickeyrat said:shecky said:Try again. Halifax responded to an article I posted with Andy Ngo's photo and name in the upper left corner.
 haven't you picked up on a central fact about him? H2M that is?Shame on the apologists above. Again, how this poster has been enabled to behave in the manner he does day in and day out is a disgrace. The angry, hateful, passive aggressive attacks are celebrated here.yeah, no.its within board rules. or the mods who are fair and firm , would have dealt with it already.and this board name you have is too new to know how many here go round and round with that poster.but do go on with your all knowing declaritive statements.happy holidays.edit to add, this is preschool tame compared to what jumped off here in this subforum before posting was a paid membership perk.Merry Christmas, mickeyrat!Post edited by battle1 on0
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 You said itHughFreakingDillon said:There was a time where I agreed with you Tim, about the nicknames. But I realized over time, no amount of respect given matters to these folks. They are brainwashed to the point that no amount of respectful good faith arguments mean anything. I used to think that Halifax’s message was too important to be watered down by the silliness, but he realized before the rest of us that it simply no longer matters. At least not on a rock band’s forum, anyway. All we can do is wait out trump’s McArteries and move on from there.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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            Not the least bit surprised to see that downright radical behavior being condoned here. The apologists are worse than the actual radical himself.0
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 Whoa! How profound!battle1 said:Not the least bit surprised to see that downright radical behavior being condoned here. The apologists are worse than the actual radical himself.
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 I do have to ask, when will you be replaced? What year, what hour? Comin soon, eh? BOO!battle1 said:Not the least bit surprised to see that downright radical behavior being condoned here. The apologists are worse than the actual radical himself.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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 Your use of the term radical is telling.battle1 said:Not the least bit surprised to see that downright radical behavior being condoned here. The apologists are worse than the actual radical himself.
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 Your use of the term radical is telling.battle1 said:Not the least bit surprised to see that downright radical behavior being condoned here. The apologists are worse than the actual radical himself.
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            I would love to have a serious conversation, but you only have to look at the responses above to see some folks here are not well, and cannot have a normal exchange without a meltdown taking place. It’s hard not to feel bad for the guy.0
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 And what does it tell you, sir? Lets see how wrong you can be too. The fact you do not find some responses here disturbing is the telling part. Apologists at every turn. Pathetic.Merkin Baller said:
 Your use of the term radical is telling.battle1 said:Not the least bit surprised to see that downright radical behavior being condoned here. The apologists are worse than the actual radical himself.
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 How profound.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Whoa! How profound!battle1 said:Not the least bit surprised to see that downright radical behavior being condoned here. The apologists are worse than the actual radical himself.
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 I don't know, my take is you come here trying to portray neutrality, but it comes off as self righteousness since you only seem interested in going after Canadian posters or the liberals who you don't like because they exaggerate and over react. Feel free to challenge any of the nonsense spewed by both who you call radicals and apologists and those who typically have the opposite viewpoint here. It's weird you never call out the childish garbage posted in memes and other non-sensical BS like "happy days are here again".battle1 said:I would love to have a serious conversation, but you only have to look at the responses above to see some folks here are not well, and cannot have a normal exchange without a meltdown taking place. It’s hard not to feel bad for the guy.
 You can also choose to ignore their posts, but you do you.It's a hopeless situation...0
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 I guess I expect more out of the folks I am aligned with politically. So their rhetoric is what truly bothers me. I don't pay any mind to the "other side" and their garbage. I have zero interest in arguing with Trump voters about Donald Trump. I ignore every word they say. Maybe some folks here should give it a whirl. However, I have grown to despise whiny liberals even more, to the point that I am ashamed to admit I even align with such despicable people. So I call out liberals here in disappointment. Not due to where my beliefs align.tbergs said:
 I don't know, my take is you come here trying to portray neutrality, but it comes off as self righteousness since you only seem interested in going after Canadian posters or the liberals who you don't like because they exaggerate and over react. Feel free to challenge any of the nonsense spewed by both who you call radicals and apologists and those who typically have the opposite viewpoint here. It's weird you never call out the childish garbage posted in memes and other non-sensical BS like "happy days are here again".battle1 said:I would love to have a serious conversation, but you only have to look at the responses above to see some folks here are not well, and cannot have a normal exchange without a meltdown taking place. It’s hard not to feel bad for the guy.
 You can also choose to ignore their posts, but you do you.
 If that is self righteous to you and the likes, then so be it. May I ask, is the moral and intellectual superiority displayed here day in and day out also self righteous to you? It's fucking disgusting to me. Thanks for asking an actual question like a normal human being. I hope this response sheds some light. Naturally, the usual suspects will surely chime in to tell me who I vote for.
 as for canada- I couldn't care less about canada.
 Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
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 Thanks for the response. I hear what you're saying about sometimes being embarrassed/frustrated by comments made here. I try to challenge those statements, even if I agree with them or empathize with someone else's experience. Doesn't mean we end up agreeing.battle1 said:
 I guess I expect more out of the folks I am aligned with politically. So their rhetoric is what truly bothers me. I don't pay any mind to the "other side" and their garbage. I have zero interest in arguing with Trump voters about Donald Trump. I ignore every word they say. Maybe some folks here should give it a whirl. However, I have grown to despise whiny liberals even more, to the point that I am ashamed to admit I even align with such despicable people. So I call out liberals here in disappointment. Not due to where my beliefs align.tbergs said:
 I don't know, my take is you come here trying to portray neutrality, but it comes off as self righteousness since you only seem interested in going after Canadian posters or the liberals who you don't like because they exaggerate and over react. Feel free to challenge any of the nonsense spewed by both who you call radicals and apologists and those who typically have the opposite viewpoint here. It's weird you never call out the childish garbage posted in memes and other non-sensical BS like "happy days are here again".battle1 said:I would love to have a serious conversation, but you only have to look at the responses above to see some folks here are not well, and cannot have a normal exchange without a meltdown taking place. It’s hard not to feel bad for the guy.
 You can also choose to ignore their posts, but you do you.
 If that is self righteous to you and the likes, then so be it. May I ask, is the moral and intellectual superiority displayed here day in and day out also self righteous to you? It's fucking disgusting to me. Thanks for asking an actual question like a normal human being. I hope this response sheds some light. Naturally, the usual suspects will surely chime in to tell me who I vote for.
 as for canada- I couldn't care less about canada.
 Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
 I think some of the opinions posted come across as self-righteous and those annoy the hell out of me, but those same posters intermix other commentary that isn't so there's more of a balance based on the larger sample size. Not trying to pigeon hole you in particular, but I often only see you responding with criticism to these posters without challenging them on the tone or content. Might be my bias since I'm used to seeing the responses of the regulars and sometimes just gloss over it if I'm not interested in reading it or engaging.
 Anyway, thanks for the dialog. Happy holidays to you as well.It's a hopeless situation...0
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            battle1 said:
 I guess I expect more out of the folks I am aligned with politically. So their rhetoric is what truly bothers me. I don't pay any mind to the "other side" and their garbage. I have zero interest in arguing with Trump voters about Donald Trump. I ignore every word they say. Maybe some folks here should give it a whirl. However, I have grown to despise whiny liberals even more, to the point that I am ashamed to admit I even align with such despicable people. So I call out liberals here in disappointment. Not due to where my beliefs align.tbergs said:
 I don't know, my take is you come here trying to portray neutrality, but it comes off as self righteousness since you only seem interested in going after Canadian posters or the liberals who you don't like because they exaggerate and over react. Feel free to challenge any of the nonsense spewed by both who you call radicals and apologists and those who typically have the opposite viewpoint here. It's weird you never call out the childish garbage posted in memes and other non-sensical BS like "happy days are here again".battle1 said:I would love to have a serious conversation, but you only have to look at the responses above to see some folks here are not well, and cannot have a normal exchange without a meltdown taking place. It’s hard not to feel bad for the guy.
 You can also choose to ignore their posts, but you do you.
 If that is self righteous to you and the likes, then so be it. May I ask, is the moral and intellectual superiority displayed here day in and day out also self righteous to you? It's fucking disgusting to me. Thanks for asking an actual question like a normal human being. I hope this response sheds some light. Naturally, the usual suspects will surely chime in to tell me who I vote for.
 as for canada- I couldn't care less about canada.
 Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.I do believe I have asked several pointed questions to you in a few threads that were conveniently ignored. questions posed in a straightforward earnest way to foster rational dialog.its very telling you do not answer._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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