You want a guy for a doctor that once read a book? Or do you want someone tested whose done several of these procedures? I don't know. Maybe you want the guy with the book. Me, I'll take the experienced professional every time.
In this case the doctor with experience has a past of selling drugs under the table to drug users.
I went to a new McDonalds....it looked so modern, and new, and exciting....man...the big macs were so much different tasting... :rolleyes:
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
In this case the doctor with experience has a past of selling drugs under the table to drug users.
Even if that were true, he can still fix what ails you better than the guy with the book. But it ain't so. And life isn't perfect because there's this dirty little secret that's still hanging out there no matter how good a PR campaign Obama ran designed to fish little souls. And that dirty little secret is: reality. If you're actually in shock because Obama, a smart politician, is acting like a smart politician, I'd take it as a lesson. Good god man. He ran on Bill Clinton's old platform without asking if he could--to my knowledge. The original Man from Hope? Bill. If you voted for Hope without noticing a few similarities to past campaigns and past campaigners, you've got some history to attend to.
But regardless. Rest easy. I think we're in good hands--far better hands than we've been at any rate. It's true that Suzy Granola won't be Secretary of State, but really, it's all for the best.
I voted for Obama. And with every pick he makes he is making me regret that more and more. As has been said, many of the adivisors he's chosen should be given subpeonas, not positions in government.
His idea of change was a sick joke. maybe that's why he beat out Apple as having the best marketing campaign in 2008.
I appreciate your integrity Commy.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
Even if that were true, he can still fix what ails you better than the guy with the book. But it ain't so. And life isn't perfect because there's this dirty little secret that's still hanging out there no matter how good a PR campaign Obama ran designed to fish little souls. And that dirty little secret is: reality. If you're actually in shock because Obama, a smart politician, is acting like a smart politician, I'd take it as a lesson. Good god man. He ran on Bill Clinton's old platform without asking if he could--to my knowledge. The original Man from Hope? Bill. If you voted for Hope without noticing a few similarities to past campaigns and past campaigners, you've got some history to attend to.
But regardless. Rest easy. I think we're in good hands--far better hands than we've been at any rate. It's true that Suzy Granola won't be Secretary of State, but really, it's all for the best.
What is with this condescending attitude about "having to take a lesson" or "got some history to attend to" like you are the all knowledgeable. If you are willing to see other people get fucked for your own good/safety then that is up to you but don't blame others if they are not willing.
I like Obama's cabinet. experience is whats needed right now. under difference circumstances I would welcome some random picks that really showed "change" but not now
Maybe Russell Simmons? And Kimora? Oh and Fifty cent to give the guy some street cred..........
just saying...........
Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
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The Team Obama Should Have Picked
By RAMZI KYSIA
There not a progressive among them. Not even one. If Obama was vague about his personal politics during the primaries and general election it was for a reason: he doesn't have any. http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21329.htm
The Team Obama Should Have Picked
Secretary of State: Joseph Stiglitz
Deputy Secretary: Tony Hall
Secretary of the Treasury: Tom Campbell
Deputy Secretary: Gar Alperovitz
Secretary of Defense: Chuck Hagel
Deputy Secretary: Lawrence Korb
Attorney General: Gabrielle Kirk McDonald
Deputy Attorney General: Joel Rogers
Secretary of the Interior: Douglas LaFollette
Deputy Secretary: David Baron
Secretary of Agriculture: Dolores Huerta
Deputy Secretary: Jill Long Thompson
Secretary of Commerce: Roxanne Qualls
Deputy Secretary: Michael Shuman
Secretary of Labor: Maria Echaveste
Deputy Secretary: John Cavanaugh
Secretary of Health and Human Services: Tom Daschle
Deputy Secretary: Sidney Wolfe
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development: Angela Glover Blackwell
Deputy Secretary: Elliott Sclar
Secretary of Transportation: Shelley Poticha
Deputy Secretary: Janette Sadik-Khan
Secretary of Energy: Claudine Schneider
Deputy Secretary: Amory Lovins
Secretary of Education: Angela Valenzuela
Deputy Secretary: Geoffrey Canada
Secretary of Veterans Affairs: Max Cleland
Deputy Secretary: Isiah Legget
Secretary of Homeland Security: Janet Napolitano
Deputy Secretary: Mary Schiavo
Chief of Staff: David Bonior
National Security Advisor: Dr. Anne Cahn
Ambassador, United Nations: Susan Rice
Chair, National Economic Council: Robert Reich
Director, Immigration and Naturalization Service: Bill Ong Hing
Director, Environmental Protection Agency: Robert Kennedy, Jr.
First Supreme Court Nomination: Mari Matsuda
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*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Not great, but then we had Cheney as a leader. This time we have Obama; I'm sure the story will turn out much better. Giving positions to a pack of inexperienced know-nothings is no solution at all. By the way, I never voted for Bush. Kerry, another story. He or Gore would have made much, much, much, much better presidents. They would have brought experienced people to their Cabinets as well. The implication that somehow seasoned people are not what you want seems kinda crazy to me, quite frankly. You want a guy for a doctor that once read a book? Or do you want someone tested whose done several of these procedures? I don't know. Maybe you want the guy with the book. Me, I'll take the experienced professional every time.
Who the fuck wants seasoned doctors when they have a complete disregard for anyone's health.
I prefer educated, intelligent, capable people with new ideas, new ways, not corrupt crooks and neither do I want a guy who has 'read a book once.'
I voted for Obama. And with every pick he makes he is making me regret that more and more. As has been said, many of the adivisors he's chosen should be given subpeonas, not positions in government.
His idea of change was a sick joke. maybe that's why he beat out Apple as having the best marketing campaign in 2008.
Obama...I should of got a PC....macs are for n00bs :(
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
also keep in mind, he was elected on 'change', that was his whole thing. 'change'
Nothing will ever change.
I pledge to you a government that will not only work well, but wisely, its ability to act tempered by prudence, and its willingness to do good, balanced by the knowledge that government is never more dangerous than when our desire to have it help us blinds us to its great power to harm us.
-Reagan
I say it does. the thing is change is not a social meme used merely to win votes, or a way to overlook what's really happening. nor is it a vacuous and trite cliche, void of meaning.
Real change is something else entirely.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
I say it does. the thing is change is not a social meme used merely to win votes, or a way to overlook what's really happening. nor is it a vacuous and trite cliche, void of meaning.
Real change is something else entirely.
Right, and I say that will never happen. Our government is the way it is, and we might as well accept it. No Democrat, Republican, or otherwise is gonna change anything ever, they all benefit too much from the system to want to actually change it. The only thing that'll bring about any real change at this point is a revolution.
I pledge to you a government that will not only work well, but wisely, its ability to act tempered by prudence, and its willingness to do good, balanced by the knowledge that government is never more dangerous than when our desire to have it help us blinds us to its great power to harm us.
-Reagan
It fits .....*Jim Carey voice* ....''Liike a glove"
It should be played when ever he makes a public appearance...and made law.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
The only thing that'll bring about any real change at this point is a revolution.
We are still a few major mindfucks away from a revolution.
Maybe if and when the grocery store shelves go empty we get the kind of impetus needed.
Right now, however ... the country is still full of reluctant Tories who yearn for "reconciliation" with their government -- with their new and magnanimous "king".
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
He rocked the vote, but he sure as shit ain't rockin' that Boat...
Tell me a story about the Federal Reserve Barry....make it sweet, make it merry, make it warm and fuzzy covered with whipped cream and a cherry...
He said...sorry son... I don't rock that boat baby...
So I'd like to know where, you got the notion
said I'd like to know where, you got the notion
to rock the boat, don't rock the boat baby
rock the boat, don't tip the boat over
rock the boat, don't rock the boat baby
rock the boat-t-t-t-t
Ever since our voyage of love began
your touch has thrilled me like the rush of the wind
and your arms have held me safe from a rolling sea
there's always been a quiet place to harbor you and me
Our love is like a ship on the ocean
we've been sailing with a cargo full of, love and devotion
So I'd like to know where, you got the notion
said I'd like to know where, you got the notion
To rock the boat, don't rock the boat baby
rock the boat, don't tip the boat over
rock the boat, don't rock the boat baby
rock the boat-t-t-t-t
Up to now we sailed through every storm
and I've always had your tender lips to keep me warm
oh I need to have the strength that flows from you
don't let me drift away my dear, when love can see me through
Our love is like a ship ...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Right, and I say that will never happen. Our government is the way it is, and we might as well accept it. No Democrat, Republican, or otherwise is gonna change anything ever, they all benefit too much from the system to want to actually change it. The only thing that'll bring about any real change at this point is a revolution.
and yet, beyond our opinions of it, evolution operates perfectly in its own good time. It's our ego that tells us what must happen when, and when such illusions shatter, it is also our egos, who, still identifying with the illusion, continue to only see that level of it.
"The opposite of a fact is falsehood, but the opposite of one profound truth may very well be another profound truth." ~ Niels Bohr
""[T]he new administration is off to a good start."
-- Senate Republican leader, Mitch McConnell.
"uperb ... the best of the Washington insiders ... this will be a valedictocracy -- rule by those who graduate first in their high school classes."
-- David Brooks, conservative New York Times columnist
"[V]irtually perfect ... "
-- Senator Joe Lieberman, former Democrat and John McCain's top surrogate in the 2008 campaign.
"[R]eassuring."
-- Karl Rove, "Bush's brain."
"I am gobsmacked by these appointments, most of which could just as easily have come from a President McCain ... this all but puts an end to the 16-month timetable for withdrawal from Iraq, the unconditional summits with dictators, and other foolishness that once emanated from the Obama campaign ... [Hillary] Clinton and [James] Steinberg at State should be powerful voices for 'neo-liberalism' which is not so different in many respects from 'neo-conservativism.'"
-- Max Boot, neoconservative activist, former McCain staffer.
"I see them as being sort of center-right of the Democratic party."
-- James Baker, former Secretary of State and the man who led the theft of the 2000 election.
"urprising continuity on foreign policy between President Bush's second term and the incoming administration ... certainly nothing that represents a drastic change in how Washington does business. The expectation is that Obama is set to continue the course set by Bush ... "
-- Michael Goldfarb of the neoconservative Weekly Standard.
"I certainly applaud many of the appointments ... "
-- Senator John McCain
"So far, so good."
-- Senator Lamar Alexander, senior Republican Congressional leader.
Hillary Clinton will be "outstanding" as Secretary of State
-- Henry Kissinger, war criminal
Rahm Emanuel is "a wise choice" in the role of Chief of Staff
-- Republican Senator Lindsey Graham, John McCain's best friend.
Obama's team shows "Our foreign policy is non-partisan."
-- Ed Rollins, top Republican strategist and Mike Huckabee's 2008 campaign manager
"The country will be in good hands."
-- Condoleezza Rice, George W. Bush's Secretary of State"
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
I voted for Obama and I LOVE these picks. How about this for change...someone who is going to try to lead the majority of the country not the fringe left or right.
There hasn't been a president to successfully do that in years.
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"Exactly where does change end and President Bill Clinton begin?
President-Elect Obama will announce New York Democratic senator Sen. Hillary Clinton as his Secretary of State today -- the most public signal of the two primary campaigns' rapprochement. Beneath the surface, the distance between Obama and Clinton has shrunk even further.
Two-third of Obama's transition team is made up of Clinton Administration staffers, a recent report says. That's at least 85 of the 135-member team assembled to review appointments to agencies and hire governmental employees.
"Clintonites are everywhere," Ben Smith and Carrie Budoff Brown wrote at Politico last week.
"Some members of Obama's transition teams are reviewing the same agencies they worked for in the '90s: Pamela Gilbert, the former executive director of the Consumer Product Safety Commission, is reviewing the CPSC; Phyllis Segal, the former director of the Federal Labor Relations Authority, is vetting the FLRA; and Michael Camunez, Clinton's senior policy adviser for national service is reviewing -- you guessed it -- "national service," added Washington Wire.
"Obama's victory in the general election produced what his primary campaign couldn't: A swift merger of the Clinton Wing of the Democratic Party with the Illinois Senator's self-styled insurgency," Smith adds. "The merger began, during the campaign, in the policy apparatus -- which is now rapidly becoming the governing apparatus."
Bill Clinton's onetime chief of staff -- and leader of the largest liberal thinktank, Center for American Progress -- is leading the former Illinois senator's transition team. Rahm Emanuel, Obama's chief of staff, did not endorse him during the primary. Obama is said to be attempting to avoid an "early mistake" made by previous administration -- trying to wield power in Washington using a closely-held personal team that isn't versed in Washington dealmaking.
Obama is set to announce Sen. Hillary Clinton as his Secretary of State at a news conference in Chicago today.
The Obama Administration is also expected to hire other old Washington hands, including former Democratic Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle as Secretary of Health and Human Services."
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
I voted for Obama and I LOVE these picks. How about this for change...someone who is going to try to lead the majority of the country not the fringe left or right.
There hasn't been a president to successfully do that in years.
You love rehashed has-beens that have lead us up to this point in misery?
That's umm.. intelligent I guess.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
You love rehashed has-beens that have lead us up to this point in misery?
That's umm.. intelligent I guess.
You give the cabinet to much credit. It is still up to Obama to set his agenda. That is what I will judge him on. I have never seen so much analysis over cabinet picks in my 12 years of following elections. Remember its up to the cabinet to carry out his agenda not to set his agenda.
IF he sets the same agenda that has failed in the past and does not get the economy going in the right direction THEN I will judge harshly.
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You give the cabinet to much credit. It is still up to Obama to set his agenda. That is what I will judge him on. I have never seen so much analysis over cabinet picks in my 12 years of following elections. Remember its up to the cabinet to carry out his agenda not to set his agenda.
IF he sets the same agenda that has failed in the past and does not get the economy going in the right direction THEN I will judge harshly.
It's a two party duopoly...there's no change. Obama hired the same people that created this mess in the first place. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
It's a total joke.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
President elect Barack Obama made choices today for “a broad and diverse team” in Chicago, reports the Associated Press. Hillary Clinton, Robert Gates, former Gen. James Jones, Eric Holder, Janet Napolitano, and Susan Rice “round” out this “change” team which is, of course, not change but a seamless transition between the Bush neocons and Obama’s decidedly neoliberal choices.
Obama announces Hillary Clinton as his Secretary of State.
Consider the following uncomfortable facts that the corporate media will never tell you in a month of Sundays:
Hillary Clinton: As Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton will continue the Bush-Clinton legacy of mass murder and “humanitarian” interventions in “failed states,” that is to say states not toting the New World Order party line.
Clinton wrote for the Council on Foreign Relations publication Foreign Affairs that ending “the war in Iraq is the first step toward restoring the United States’ global leadership,” never mind her 2002 Senate vote allowing Bush and the neocons to invade Iraq and subsequently slaughter over a million Iraqis.
Clinton, as a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, has stated she wants to send more troops into the Afghan meat grinder and have them chase the CIA-created Taliban and al-Qaeda around. Afghanistan needs to get “as much, if not more attention” than Iraq, said Clinton earlier this year on a campaign stop in Cape Fear, North Carolina, an appropriately named venue.
“The next president will be the first to inherit two wars, a long-term campaign against global terrorist networks, and growing tension with Iran as it seeks to acquire nuclear weapons. The United States will face a resurgent Russia whose future orientation is uncertain and a rapidly growing China that must be integrated into the international system,” Clinton wrote for the CFR. In other words, the wars will continue, Iran will be “confronted” (bombed into submission), and Russia and China forced into the “international system,” in other words the bankster system that thrives on looting and imposed debt misery.
Clinton, as Secretary of State, will continue the phony GWOT indefinitely. “It is essential that we win this war against these borderless terrorists, but it is, I believe, critical that we once again recommit ourselves to that American internationalism that I mentioned in the beginning,” Clinton told Richard Haass and the Council on Foreign Relations in 2003. Internationalism, of course, is inseparable from neoliberal globalism of the sort the CFR has pushed for decades.
Robert Gates: More than anything, keeping Robert Gates on at the Pentagon is a signal to the plebs that the neocon policies of the Bush administration will stay in effect, albeit with a few minor changes and a lot of window dressing.
Gates is a loyal Bush senior stooge. During Bush 41’s presidency, Gates served as deputy national security adviser and then as CIA director. He was dean of the Bush School and then president of Texas A&M, which is where the Bush presidential library is located. “In other words, Bob Gates is a Bush 41 kinda guy,” writes Ivo Daalder.
Robert Gates is a consummate insider. “Gates indeed worked under every U.S. president from Richard M. Nixon to George Herbert Walker Bush,” notes the National Security Archive. He is closely connected to former Secretary of State James Baker III, a prominent CFR member and Bush crime family functionary and consigliere.
“The Iran Contra affair in which Robert Gates was implicated was part of the architecture of the ‘war on terrorism’. What is rarely acknowledged is that part of the proceeds of the illegal weapons sales to Iran were also used to finance the CIA sponsored Islamic brigades (i.e. Al Qaeda) involved in the Soviet-Afghan war. These covert operations in support of Al Qaeda paved the way for the ‘war on terrorism’ which constitutes the cornerstone of US National Security doctrine,” writes Michel Chossudovsky.
As Obama’s Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates will oversee the military aspects of this doctrine with an invasion of Pakistan and further involvement in Afghanistan.
Gen. James Jones: Former Marine general and former NATO supreme commander James Jones will be Obama’s National Security Advisor. Jones sits on the board of directors of the Boeing Company, Chevron, and NATO’s Atlantic Council of the United States. Jones is cozy with the Council on Foreign Relations. He is reportedly a good friend of John McCain and is respected by Republicans.
Eric Holder and Janet Napolitano.
In essence, Jones will serve as Big Oil’s security chief. “Jones is currently a director of Chevron Oil. He also heads of the Chamber of Commerce’s Institute for 21st Century Energy — a group lobbying on energy issues in DC and described by the Grist as ‘part of the Republican machine, dominated by — and lobbying fiercely for the interests of — Big Oil, Big Auto, Big Pharma, and other such Bigs,’” writes Mitchell Anderson.
“Jones would be reflective of two huge Obama priorities,” notes Spencer Ackerman. “First, Afghanistan. As NATO Commander, Jones ceaselessly lobbied the European allies for greater assistance in the Afghanistan war. Second, energy security. Jones is widely known to be an advocate of alternative energy sources, and, as Politico notes, chairs an energy task force for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. And of course there’s the good optics of such a well-respected general being Obama’s closest White House aide on foreign policy.”
Incidentally, even though former Sec. Def. Rumsfeld exiled Jones to his mostly ceremonial NATO post, the general is onboard with the coming attack against Pakistan and possibly Iran. During a September, 2006 Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing, Jones testified that it was “generally accepted” that Taliban leaders operated out Quetta, Pakistan.
Finally, Jones “has pointed to Camp Bondsteel in Kosovo as a ‘model’ for US bases elsewhere,” writes Chad Nagle. “Anyone who has seen the gigantic and ominous Bondsteel, set amid the wasteland of bombed out and destitute Kosovo, has an idea of what the US-imposed New World Order will look like - destroyed dumps where a fortress houses thousands of American military personnel behind its walls and the fearful population outside can rot in hell.
It was, of course, the husband of Obama’s choice for Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, that turned Kosovo and the former Yugoslavia into a wasteland. An Obama administration promises more of the same.
Eric Holder: Former Clintonite and Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder will be Obama’s attorney general. Holder is probably best and infamously remembered for his role in the controversial pardon of billionaire fugitive Marc Rich, the FBI Most Wanted criminal who colluded with Iran at a time when that country was holding U.S. hostages.
In private practice as an attorney, Holder represents Merck and helped negotiate an agreement with the Justice Department for Chiquita Brands International in a case that involved Chiquita’s payment of “protection money” to the United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia, a group on the U.S. government’s list of terrorist organizations.
Most disturbing, however, is the role Holder played in the D.C. v. Heller ruling on handguns. Holder joined the Reno-led amicus brief, which urged the Supreme Court to uphold Washington, D.C.’s handgun ban and said the Department of Justice from Franklin Roosevelt through Bill Clinton had always believed that the Second Amendment does not protect the rights of individuals to own guns for personal use. In short, Holder is a gun grabber who is opposed to the Second Amendment. As attorney general, we can bet he will work tirelessly to outlaw all firearms in the United States.
Finally, Holder has advocated government censorship of the internet. “It is gonna be a difficult thing, but it seems to me that if we can come up with reasonable restrictions, reasonable regulations in how people interact on the Internet, that is something that the Supreme Court and the courts ought to favorably look at,” Holder told NPR after the Columbine massacre in 1999.
Janet Napolitano: Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano will be Obama’s Homeland Security secretary. She will continue the do-nothing approach to illegal immigration. “Far from being a border hawk, Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano frequently blocked efforts to curb illegal immigration, say enforcement advocates concerned about her expected nomination to be the Homeland Security secretary under President Barack Obama,” reports Fred Lucas for CNS News. She opposes a border fence and favors a controversial technology visa program and favors a “stringent pathway to citizenship,” in other words allowing millions of illegal aliens to become citizens.
As a CFR member, Napolitano is onboard with the globalist agenda to impoverish the American worker. She has proposed endless H-1B visas in order to displace skilled workers. “I’m going to direct the Secretary of Labor to tell us what our labor market needs are, and we’re going to adjust the visas accordingly, and we’re going to put in place a process to do that, protecting jobs for American workers but realizing that we will have a national labor shortage moving forward. I’m going to pay specific attention to certain areas such as H-1B visas [for skilled workers], where there is such a demonstrated need and there’s more than enough work for everyone to go around,” Donald A. Collins quotes her as declaring.
Susan E. Rice: Ms. Rice, a former assistant secretary of state for African Affairs under Clinton and a Rhodes scholar, is a minion of the Brooking Institution. Brookings is a neolib “think tank” par excellence. It is funded by the Ford Foundation, the John D. & Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation, American Express, the Bank of America, Lockheed Martin, Walmart, Goldman Sachs, and the United Nations.
Rice, who the neocons consider a “leftist,” is also a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and the Aspen Strategy Group, the latter where she rubs elbows with the likes of Brent Scowcroft, the neocon Eliot A. Cohen (a “leading champion” of the war in Iraq), Madeleine Albright (a proponent of mass murdering Iraqi children), CFR president Richard N. Haass, and other crossover neocons and neolibs.
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Don't have much to add, however this stuck out at me. So when I call for humanitarian intervention in areas of genocide and mass starvation and ethnic violence, I'm really just trying to stifle those countries that aren't a part of this New World Order? I'd like to see somebody even try to make a coherent argument that places like Darfur, Zimbabwe, and Congo are really doing fine, they're just not "playing by our rules." That's the one part I don't really understand.
Drifting and Roland, what's your thoughts on Samantha Power? I mean there's been a thread here about her for a couple of days, but it doesn't seem to have caught much interest. I very much like this lady, and while i'm not sure just how much influence she will have, i see her likely place in the state deaprtment as nothing but positive. Obama clearly thinks highly of her.
Drifting and Roland, what's your thoughts on Samantha Power? I mean there's been a thread here about her for a couple of days, but it doesn't seem to have caught much interest. I very much like this lady, and while i'm not sure just how much influence she will have, i see her likely place in the state deaprtment as nothing but positive. Obama clearly thinks highly of her.
That was my thread, and I think she's a great thinker. I don't want to speak for people, but knowing what I know of Drifting and Roland's post and threads, I'd have a feeling that they're not fans in the slightest. She strongly approves of foreign intervention in genocide.
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In this case the doctor with experience has a past of selling drugs under the table to drug users.
It's the same recipe made by a different cook.
I went to a new McDonalds....it looked so modern, and new, and exciting....man...the big macs were so much different tasting... :rolleyes:
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Sweep the Leg Johnny.
Even if that were true, he can still fix what ails you better than the guy with the book. But it ain't so. And life isn't perfect because there's this dirty little secret that's still hanging out there no matter how good a PR campaign Obama ran designed to fish little souls. And that dirty little secret is: reality. If you're actually in shock because Obama, a smart politician, is acting like a smart politician, I'd take it as a lesson. Good god man. He ran on Bill Clinton's old platform without asking if he could--to my knowledge. The original Man from Hope? Bill. If you voted for Hope without noticing a few similarities to past campaigns and past campaigners, you've got some history to attend to.
But regardless. Rest easy. I think we're in good hands--far better hands than we've been at any rate. It's true that Suzy Granola won't be Secretary of State, but really, it's all for the best.
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What is with this condescending attitude about "having to take a lesson" or "got some history to attend to" like you are the all knowledgeable. If you are willing to see other people get fucked for your own good/safety then that is up to you but don't blame others if they are not willing.
Maybe Russell Simmons? And Kimora? Oh and Fifty cent to give the guy some street cred..........
just saying...........
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
By RAMZI KYSIA
There not a progressive among them. Not even one. If Obama was vague about his personal politics during the primaries and general election it was for a reason: he doesn't have any.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21329.htm
The Team Obama Should Have Picked
Secretary of State: Joseph Stiglitz
Deputy Secretary: Tony Hall
Secretary of the Treasury: Tom Campbell
Deputy Secretary: Gar Alperovitz
Secretary of Defense: Chuck Hagel
Deputy Secretary: Lawrence Korb
Attorney General: Gabrielle Kirk McDonald
Deputy Attorney General: Joel Rogers
Secretary of the Interior: Douglas LaFollette
Deputy Secretary: David Baron
Secretary of Agriculture: Dolores Huerta
Deputy Secretary: Jill Long Thompson
Secretary of Commerce: Roxanne Qualls
Deputy Secretary: Michael Shuman
Secretary of Labor: Maria Echaveste
Deputy Secretary: John Cavanaugh
Secretary of Health and Human Services: Tom Daschle
Deputy Secretary: Sidney Wolfe
Secretary of Housing and Urban Development: Angela Glover Blackwell
Deputy Secretary: Elliott Sclar
Secretary of Transportation: Shelley Poticha
Deputy Secretary: Janette Sadik-Khan
Secretary of Energy: Claudine Schneider
Deputy Secretary: Amory Lovins
Secretary of Education: Angela Valenzuela
Deputy Secretary: Geoffrey Canada
Secretary of Veterans Affairs: Max Cleland
Deputy Secretary: Isiah Legget
Secretary of Homeland Security: Janet Napolitano
Deputy Secretary: Mary Schiavo
Chief of Staff: David Bonior
National Security Advisor: Dr. Anne Cahn
Ambassador, United Nations: Susan Rice
Chair, National Economic Council: Robert Reich
Director, Immigration and Naturalization Service: Bill Ong Hing
Director, Environmental Protection Agency: Robert Kennedy, Jr.
First Supreme Court Nomination: Mari Matsuda
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Who the fuck wants seasoned doctors when they have a complete disregard for anyone's health.
I prefer educated, intelligent, capable people with new ideas, new ways, not corrupt crooks and neither do I want a guy who has 'read a book once.'
naděje umírá poslední
Obama...I should of got a PC....macs are for n00bs :(
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Nothing will ever change.
-Reagan
Real change is something else entirely.
http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
Right, and I say that will never happen. Our government is the way it is, and we might as well accept it. No Democrat, Republican, or otherwise is gonna change anything ever, they all benefit too much from the system to want to actually change it. The only thing that'll bring about any real change at this point is a revolution.
-Reagan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51W4tH54e7I&feature=related
It fits .....*Jim Carey voice* ....''Liike a glove"
It should be played when ever he makes a public appearance...and made law.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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We are still a few major mindfucks away from a revolution.
Maybe if and when the grocery store shelves go empty we get the kind of impetus needed.
Right now, however ... the country is still full of reluctant Tories who yearn for "reconciliation" with their government -- with their new and magnanimous "king".
If I opened it now would you not understand?
In Barack we trust?
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/11/29/obama_choices/
Tell me a story about the Federal Reserve Barry....make it sweet, make it merry, make it warm and fuzzy covered with whipped cream and a cherry...
He said...sorry son... I don't rock that boat baby...
So I'd like to know where, you got the notion
said I'd like to know where, you got the notion
to rock the boat, don't rock the boat baby
rock the boat, don't tip the boat over
rock the boat, don't rock the boat baby
rock the boat-t-t-t-t
Ever since our voyage of love began
your touch has thrilled me like the rush of the wind
and your arms have held me safe from a rolling sea
there's always been a quiet place to harbor you and me
Our love is like a ship on the ocean
we've been sailing with a cargo full of, love and devotion
So I'd like to know where, you got the notion
said I'd like to know where, you got the notion
To rock the boat, don't rock the boat baby
rock the boat, don't tip the boat over
rock the boat, don't rock the boat baby
rock the boat-t-t-t-t
Up to now we sailed through every storm
and I've always had your tender lips to keep me warm
oh I need to have the strength that flows from you
don't let me drift away my dear, when love can see me through
Our love is like a ship ...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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http://www.myspace.com/illuminatta
Rhinocerous Surprise '08!!!
Hold on a sec...if I remember right, aren't you a pretty strong conservative?
EDIT: directed towards acoustic guy, not Commy.
Neocons, Republicans and War Criminals Rave About Obama's """Team of Rivals"""
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/109160/neocons%2C_republicans_and_war_criminals_rave_about_obama%27s_%27team_of_rivals%27/
""[T]he new administration is off to a good start."
-- Senate Republican leader, Mitch McConnell.
"uperb ... the best of the Washington insiders ... this will be a valedictocracy -- rule by those who graduate first in their high school classes."
-- David Brooks, conservative New York Times columnist
"[V]irtually perfect ... "
-- Senator Joe Lieberman, former Democrat and John McCain's top surrogate in the 2008 campaign.
"[R]eassuring."
-- Karl Rove, "Bush's brain."
"I am gobsmacked by these appointments, most of which could just as easily have come from a President McCain ... this all but puts an end to the 16-month timetable for withdrawal from Iraq, the unconditional summits with dictators, and other foolishness that once emanated from the Obama campaign ... [Hillary] Clinton and [James] Steinberg at State should be powerful voices for 'neo-liberalism' which is not so different in many respects from 'neo-conservativism.'"
-- Max Boot, neoconservative activist, former McCain staffer.
"I see them as being sort of center-right of the Democratic party."
-- James Baker, former Secretary of State and the man who led the theft of the 2000 election.
"urprising continuity on foreign policy between President Bush's second term and the incoming administration ... certainly nothing that represents a drastic change in how Washington does business. The expectation is that Obama is set to continue the course set by Bush ... "
-- Michael Goldfarb of the neoconservative Weekly Standard.
"I certainly applaud many of the appointments ... "
-- Senator John McCain
"So far, so good."
-- Senator Lamar Alexander, senior Republican Congressional leader.
Hillary Clinton will be "outstanding" as Secretary of State
-- Henry Kissinger, war criminal
Rahm Emanuel is "a wise choice" in the role of Chief of Staff
-- Republican Senator Lindsey Graham, John McCain's best friend.
Obama's team shows "Our foreign policy is non-partisan."
-- Ed Rollins, top Republican strategist and Mike Huckabee's 2008 campaign manager
"The country will be in good hands."
-- Condoleezza Rice, George W. Bush's Secretary of State"
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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There hasn't been a president to successfully do that in years.
6/7/2003 (***1/2)
7/9/2006 (****1/2)
7/13/2006 (**** )
4/10/2008 EV Solo (****1/2)
6/25/2008 MSG II (*****)
10/1/2009 LA II (****)
10/6/2009 LA III (***** Cornell!!!)
mmm...smell that change...
Clinton staffers make up nearly two- thirds of Obama transition team
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Clinton_staffers_make_up_twothirds_of_1201.html
"Exactly where does change end and President Bill Clinton begin?
President-Elect Obama will announce New York Democratic senator Sen. Hillary Clinton as his Secretary of State today -- the most public signal of the two primary campaigns' rapprochement. Beneath the surface, the distance between Obama and Clinton has shrunk even further.
Two-third of Obama's transition team is made up of Clinton Administration staffers, a recent report says. That's at least 85 of the 135-member team assembled to review appointments to agencies and hire governmental employees.
"Clintonites are everywhere," Ben Smith and Carrie Budoff Brown wrote at Politico last week.
"Some members of Obama's transition teams are reviewing the same agencies they worked for in the '90s: Pamela Gilbert, the former executive director of the Consumer Product Safety Commission, is reviewing the CPSC; Phyllis Segal, the former director of the Federal Labor Relations Authority, is vetting the FLRA; and Michael Camunez, Clinton's senior policy adviser for national service is reviewing -- you guessed it -- "national service," added Washington Wire.
"Obama's victory in the general election produced what his primary campaign couldn't: A swift merger of the Clinton Wing of the Democratic Party with the Illinois Senator's self-styled insurgency," Smith adds. "The merger began, during the campaign, in the policy apparatus -- which is now rapidly becoming the governing apparatus."
Bill Clinton's onetime chief of staff -- and leader of the largest liberal thinktank, Center for American Progress -- is leading the former Illinois senator's transition team. Rahm Emanuel, Obama's chief of staff, did not endorse him during the primary. Obama is said to be attempting to avoid an "early mistake" made by previous administration -- trying to wield power in Washington using a closely-held personal team that isn't versed in Washington dealmaking.
Obama is set to announce Sen. Hillary Clinton as his Secretary of State at a news conference in Chicago today.
The Obama Administration is also expected to hire other old Washington hands, including former Democratic Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle as Secretary of Health and Human Services."
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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You love rehashed has-beens that have lead us up to this point in misery?
That's umm.. intelligent I guess.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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You give the cabinet to much credit. It is still up to Obama to set his agenda. That is what I will judge him on. I have never seen so much analysis over cabinet picks in my 12 years of following elections. Remember its up to the cabinet to carry out his agenda not to set his agenda.
IF he sets the same agenda that has failed in the past and does not get the economy going in the right direction THEN I will judge harshly.
6/7/2003 (***1/2)
7/9/2006 (****1/2)
7/13/2006 (**** )
4/10/2008 EV Solo (****1/2)
6/25/2008 MSG II (*****)
10/1/2009 LA II (****)
10/6/2009 LA III (***** Cornell!!!)
It's a two party duopoly...there's no change. Obama hired the same people that created this mess in the first place. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.
It's a total joke.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Kurt Nimmo
Infowars
December 1, 2008
President elect Barack Obama made choices today for “a broad and diverse team” in Chicago, reports the Associated Press. Hillary Clinton, Robert Gates, former Gen. James Jones, Eric Holder, Janet Napolitano, and Susan Rice “round” out this “change” team which is, of course, not change but a seamless transition between the Bush neocons and Obama’s decidedly neoliberal choices.
Obama announces Hillary Clinton as his Secretary of State.
Consider the following uncomfortable facts that the corporate media will never tell you in a month of Sundays:
Hillary Clinton: As Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton will continue the Bush-Clinton legacy of mass murder and “humanitarian” interventions in “failed states,” that is to say states not toting the New World Order party line.
Clinton wrote for the Council on Foreign Relations publication Foreign Affairs that ending “the war in Iraq is the first step toward restoring the United States’ global leadership,” never mind her 2002 Senate vote allowing Bush and the neocons to invade Iraq and subsequently slaughter over a million Iraqis.
Clinton, as a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, has stated she wants to send more troops into the Afghan meat grinder and have them chase the CIA-created Taliban and al-Qaeda around. Afghanistan needs to get “as much, if not more attention” than Iraq, said Clinton earlier this year on a campaign stop in Cape Fear, North Carolina, an appropriately named venue.
“The next president will be the first to inherit two wars, a long-term campaign against global terrorist networks, and growing tension with Iran as it seeks to acquire nuclear weapons. The United States will face a resurgent Russia whose future orientation is uncertain and a rapidly growing China that must be integrated into the international system,” Clinton wrote for the CFR. In other words, the wars will continue, Iran will be “confronted” (bombed into submission), and Russia and China forced into the “international system,” in other words the bankster system that thrives on looting and imposed debt misery.
Clinton, as Secretary of State, will continue the phony GWOT indefinitely. “It is essential that we win this war against these borderless terrorists, but it is, I believe, critical that we once again recommit ourselves to that American internationalism that I mentioned in the beginning,” Clinton told Richard Haass and the Council on Foreign Relations in 2003. Internationalism, of course, is inseparable from neoliberal globalism of the sort the CFR has pushed for decades.
Robert Gates: More than anything, keeping Robert Gates on at the Pentagon is a signal to the plebs that the neocon policies of the Bush administration will stay in effect, albeit with a few minor changes and a lot of window dressing.
Gates is a loyal Bush senior stooge. During Bush 41’s presidency, Gates served as deputy national security adviser and then as CIA director. He was dean of the Bush School and then president of Texas A&M, which is where the Bush presidential library is located. “In other words, Bob Gates is a Bush 41 kinda guy,” writes Ivo Daalder.
Robert Gates is a consummate insider. “Gates indeed worked under every U.S. president from Richard M. Nixon to George Herbert Walker Bush,” notes the National Security Archive. He is closely connected to former Secretary of State James Baker III, a prominent CFR member and Bush crime family functionary and consigliere.
“The Iran Contra affair in which Robert Gates was implicated was part of the architecture of the ‘war on terrorism’. What is rarely acknowledged is that part of the proceeds of the illegal weapons sales to Iran were also used to finance the CIA sponsored Islamic brigades (i.e. Al Qaeda) involved in the Soviet-Afghan war. These covert operations in support of Al Qaeda paved the way for the ‘war on terrorism’ which constitutes the cornerstone of US National Security doctrine,” writes Michel Chossudovsky.
As Obama’s Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates will oversee the military aspects of this doctrine with an invasion of Pakistan and further involvement in Afghanistan.
Gen. James Jones: Former Marine general and former NATO supreme commander James Jones will be Obama’s National Security Advisor. Jones sits on the board of directors of the Boeing Company, Chevron, and NATO’s Atlantic Council of the United States. Jones is cozy with the Council on Foreign Relations. He is reportedly a good friend of John McCain and is respected by Republicans.
Eric Holder and Janet Napolitano.
In essence, Jones will serve as Big Oil’s security chief. “Jones is currently a director of Chevron Oil. He also heads of the Chamber of Commerce’s Institute for 21st Century Energy — a group lobbying on energy issues in DC and described by the Grist as ‘part of the Republican machine, dominated by — and lobbying fiercely for the interests of — Big Oil, Big Auto, Big Pharma, and other such Bigs,’” writes Mitchell Anderson.
“Jones would be reflective of two huge Obama priorities,” notes Spencer Ackerman. “First, Afghanistan. As NATO Commander, Jones ceaselessly lobbied the European allies for greater assistance in the Afghanistan war. Second, energy security. Jones is widely known to be an advocate of alternative energy sources, and, as Politico notes, chairs an energy task force for the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. And of course there’s the good optics of such a well-respected general being Obama’s closest White House aide on foreign policy.”
Incidentally, even though former Sec. Def. Rumsfeld exiled Jones to his mostly ceremonial NATO post, the general is onboard with the coming attack against Pakistan and possibly Iran. During a September, 2006 Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing, Jones testified that it was “generally accepted” that Taliban leaders operated out Quetta, Pakistan.
Finally, Jones “has pointed to Camp Bondsteel in Kosovo as a ‘model’ for US bases elsewhere,” writes Chad Nagle. “Anyone who has seen the gigantic and ominous Bondsteel, set amid the wasteland of bombed out and destitute Kosovo, has an idea of what the US-imposed New World Order will look like - destroyed dumps where a fortress houses thousands of American military personnel behind its walls and the fearful population outside can rot in hell.
It was, of course, the husband of Obama’s choice for Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, that turned Kosovo and the former Yugoslavia into a wasteland. An Obama administration promises more of the same.
Eric Holder: Former Clintonite and Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder will be Obama’s attorney general. Holder is probably best and infamously remembered for his role in the controversial pardon of billionaire fugitive Marc Rich, the FBI Most Wanted criminal who colluded with Iran at a time when that country was holding U.S. hostages.
In private practice as an attorney, Holder represents Merck and helped negotiate an agreement with the Justice Department for Chiquita Brands International in a case that involved Chiquita’s payment of “protection money” to the United Self-Defense Forces of Colombia, a group on the U.S. government’s list of terrorist organizations.
Most disturbing, however, is the role Holder played in the D.C. v. Heller ruling on handguns. Holder joined the Reno-led amicus brief, which urged the Supreme Court to uphold Washington, D.C.’s handgun ban and said the Department of Justice from Franklin Roosevelt through Bill Clinton had always believed that the Second Amendment does not protect the rights of individuals to own guns for personal use. In short, Holder is a gun grabber who is opposed to the Second Amendment. As attorney general, we can bet he will work tirelessly to outlaw all firearms in the United States.
Finally, Holder has advocated government censorship of the internet. “It is gonna be a difficult thing, but it seems to me that if we can come up with reasonable restrictions, reasonable regulations in how people interact on the Internet, that is something that the Supreme Court and the courts ought to favorably look at,” Holder told NPR after the Columbine massacre in 1999.
Janet Napolitano: Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano will be Obama’s Homeland Security secretary. She will continue the do-nothing approach to illegal immigration. “Far from being a border hawk, Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano frequently blocked efforts to curb illegal immigration, say enforcement advocates concerned about her expected nomination to be the Homeland Security secretary under President Barack Obama,” reports Fred Lucas for CNS News. She opposes a border fence and favors a controversial technology visa program and favors a “stringent pathway to citizenship,” in other words allowing millions of illegal aliens to become citizens.
As a CFR member, Napolitano is onboard with the globalist agenda to impoverish the American worker. She has proposed endless H-1B visas in order to displace skilled workers. “I’m going to direct the Secretary of Labor to tell us what our labor market needs are, and we’re going to adjust the visas accordingly, and we’re going to put in place a process to do that, protecting jobs for American workers but realizing that we will have a national labor shortage moving forward. I’m going to pay specific attention to certain areas such as H-1B visas [for skilled workers], where there is such a demonstrated need and there’s more than enough work for everyone to go around,” Donald A. Collins quotes her as declaring.
Susan E. Rice: Ms. Rice, a former assistant secretary of state for African Affairs under Clinton and a Rhodes scholar, is a minion of the Brooking Institution. Brookings is a neolib “think tank” par excellence. It is funded by the Ford Foundation, the John D. & Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation, American Express, the Bank of America, Lockheed Martin, Walmart, Goldman Sachs, and the United Nations.
Rice, who the neocons consider a “leftist,” is also a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and the Aspen Strategy Group, the latter where she rubs elbows with the likes of Brent Scowcroft, the neocon Eliot A. Cohen (a “leading champion” of the war in Iraq), Madeleine Albright (a proponent of mass murdering Iraqi children), CFR president Richard N. Haass, and other crossover neocons and neolibs.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Don't have much to add, however this stuck out at me. So when I call for humanitarian intervention in areas of genocide and mass starvation and ethnic violence, I'm really just trying to stifle those countries that aren't a part of this New World Order? I'd like to see somebody even try to make a coherent argument that places like Darfur, Zimbabwe, and Congo are really doing fine, they're just not "playing by our rules." That's the one part I don't really understand.
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=310312
That was my thread, and I think she's a great thinker. I don't want to speak for people, but knowing what I know of Drifting and Roland's post and threads, I'd have a feeling that they're not fans in the slightest. She strongly approves of foreign intervention in genocide.