Obama’s Odious Entourage

DixieN

I love Obama's picks. I didn't give him enough credit up front. I thought he wasn't experienced enough do be really smart about who he put in. So far, almost everyone looks great to me. Even Gates, who I have reservations about, looks like he could be the man for the job.

bootlegger10

pearljamfan1212 wrote:

I like Obama's cabinet. experience is whats needed right now. under difference circumstances I would welcome some random picks that really showed "change" but not now

Bush's cabinet had plenty of experience. How'd that work out for you?

bootlegger10

DixieN wrote:

I love Obama's picks. I didn't give him enough credit up front. I thought he wasn't experienced enough do be really smart about who he put in. So far, almost everyone looks great to me. Even Gates, who I have reservations about, looks like he could be the man for the job.

Maybe you just like the leader, and are willing to accept whatever he does or chooses.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

DixieN wrote:

I love Obama's picks. I didn't give him enough credit up front. I thought he wasn't experienced enough do be really smart about who he put in. So far, almost everyone looks great to me. Even Gates, who I have reservations about, looks like he could be the man for the job.

What do you base your criteria for "looks great to me" on?

angelica

Nevermind wrote:

Collin wrote:

Obama's lack of experience, or relatively short experience doesn't matter because he brings change. There's not time for change, we need experience.

The old switcharoo. I didnt see that coming.

totally.

DixieN

bootlegger10 wrote:

Bush's cabinet had plenty of experience. How'd that work out for you?

Not great, but then we had Cheney as a leader. This time we have Obama; I'm sure the story will turn out much better. Giving positions to a pack of inexperienced know-nothings is no solution at all. By the way, I never voted for Bush. Kerry, another story. He or Gore would have made much, much, much, much better presidents. They would have brought experienced people to their Cabinets as well. The implication that somehow seasoned people are not what you want seems kinda crazy to me, quite frankly. You want a guy for a doctor that once read a book? Or do you want someone tested whose done several of these procedures? I don't know. Maybe you want the guy with the book. Me, I'll take the experienced professional every time.

DixieN

bootlegger10 wrote:

Maybe you just like the leader, and are willing to accept whatever he does or chooses.

Actually, I wanted Hillary as leader. I settled. So, it's good to see my original idea that Hillary was Obama in pansuits and Obama was Hillary in suit turn out to be just about right. The big difference between the two of them was always just the packaging. Really, I did have a hard time deciding which of the two to go for. I get them both...Obama as prez and Hillary, in all likelihood, as his highest-ranking cabinet member.

I'm quite happy we won't have another 8 years of Bush II. THAT was the change we were all looking for. Though I will admit that I like this leader way more than the last one.

aNiMaL

DixieN wrote:

Actually, I wanted Hillary as leader. I settled. So, it's good to see my original idea that Hillary was Obama in pansuits and Obama was Hillary in suit turn out to be just about right. The big difference between the two of them was always just the packaging. Really, I did have a hard time deciding which of the two to go for. I get them both...Obama as prez and Hillary, in all likelihood, as his highest-ranking cabinet member.

I'm quite happy we won't have another 8 years of Bush II. THAT was the change we were all looking for.

I agree that the "change" that was talked about was about changing from the last 8 years of GOP leadership in the white house.

It is funny how the conservative right is pouncing on him for not completely reinventing the game. When, if had done that, they would have touted how inexperienced his cabinet is. Obama is in a lose-lose situation for the doom and gloom right wingers. Which I think is funny, because; welcome to how the rest of the country has felt with actual just -cause about the current administration.

Oh no, the sky is falling, run for your lives!! Awwww. Get a life, at least the middle-left leaning folks waited until GW really starting screwing up the country before we started touting our displeasure.

PJ_Saluki

bootlegger10 wrote:

Maybe you just like the leader, and are willing to accept whatever he does or chooses.

Or, in some cases, maybe people don't like the leader and will criticize whatever he does. Happens all the time.

Commy

I voted for Obama. And with every pick he makes he is making me regret that more and more. As has been said, many of the adivisors he's chosen should be given subpeonas, not positions in government.


His idea of change was a sick joke. maybe that's why he beat out Apple as having the best marketing campaign in 2008.

NoK

DixieN wrote:

You want a guy for a doctor that once read a book? Or do you want someone tested whose done several of these procedures? I don't know. Maybe you want the guy with the book. Me, I'll take the experienced professional every time.

In this case the doctor with experience has a past of selling drugs under the table to drug users.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Change from what is the question...

It's the same recipe made by a different cook.

I went to a new McDonalds....it looked so modern, and new, and exciting....man...the big macs were so much different tasting... :rolleyes:

acoustic guy

Commy wrote:

I voted for Obama. And with every pick he makes he is making me regret that more and more.quote]

For the thousands like you....please read my quote below.

DixieN

NoK wrote:

In this case the doctor with experience has a past of selling drugs under the table to drug users.

Even if that were true, he can still fix what ails you better than the guy with the book. But it ain't so. And life isn't perfect because there's this dirty little secret that's still hanging out there no matter how good a PR campaign Obama ran designed to fish little souls. And that dirty little secret is: reality. If you're actually in shock because Obama, a smart politician, is acting like a smart politician, I'd take it as a lesson. Good god man. He ran on Bill Clinton's old platform without asking if he could--to my knowledge. The original Man from Hope? Bill. If you voted for Hope without noticing a few similarities to past campaigns and past campaigners, you've got some history to attend to.

But regardless. Rest easy. I think we're in good hands--far better hands than we've been at any rate. It's true that Suzy Granola won't be Secretary of State, but really, it's all for the best.

angelica

Commy wrote:

I voted for Obama. And with every pick he makes he is making me regret that more and more. As has been said, many of the adivisors he's chosen should be given subpeonas, not positions in government.


His idea of change was a sick joke. maybe that's why he beat out Apple as having the best marketing campaign in 2008.

I appreciate your integrity Commy.

NoK

DixieN wrote:

Even if that were true, he can still fix what ails you better than the guy with the book. But it ain't so. And life isn't perfect because there's this dirty little secret that's still hanging out there no matter how good a PR campaign Obama ran designed to fish little souls. And that dirty little secret is: reality. If you're actually in shock because Obama, a smart politician, is acting like a smart politician, I'd take it as a lesson. Good god man. He ran on Bill Clinton's old platform without asking if he could--to my knowledge. The original Man from Hope? Bill. If you voted for Hope without noticing a few similarities to past campaigns and past campaigners, you've got some history to attend to.

But regardless. Rest easy. I think we're in good hands--far better hands than we've been at any rate. It's true that Suzy Granola won't be Secretary of State, but really, it's all for the best.

What is with this condescending attitude about "having to take a lesson" or "got some history to attend to" like you are the all knowledgeable. If you are willing to see other people get fucked for your own good/safety then that is up to you but don't blame others if they are not willing.

writersu

pearljamfan1212 wrote:

I like Obama's cabinet. experience is whats needed right now. under difference circumstances I would welcome some random picks that really showed "change" but not now

Maybe Russell Simmons? And Kimora? Oh and Fifty cent to give the guy some street cred..........

just saying...........

g under p

The Team Obama Should Have Picked

By RAMZI KYSIA

There not a progressive among them. Not even one. If Obama was vague about his personal politics during the primaries and general election it was for a reason: he doesn't have any.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article21329.htm



The Team Obama Should Have Picked

Secretary of State: Joseph Stiglitz

Deputy Secretary: Tony Hall

Secretary of the Treasury: Tom Campbell

Deputy Secretary: Gar Alperovitz

Secretary of Defense: Chuck Hagel

Deputy Secretary: Lawrence Korb

Attorney General: Gabrielle Kirk McDonald

Deputy Attorney General: Joel Rogers

Secretary of the Interior: Douglas LaFollette

Deputy Secretary: David Baron

Secretary of Agriculture: Dolores Huerta

Deputy Secretary: Jill Long Thompson

Secretary of Commerce: Roxanne Qualls

Deputy Secretary: Michael Shuman

Secretary of Labor: Maria Echaveste

Deputy Secretary: John Cavanaugh

Secretary of Health and Human Services: Tom Daschle

Deputy Secretary: Sidney Wolfe

Secretary of Housing and Urban Development: Angela Glover Blackwell

Deputy Secretary: Elliott Sclar

Secretary of Transportation: Shelley Poticha

Deputy Secretary: Janette Sadik-Khan

Secretary of Energy: Claudine Schneider

Deputy Secretary: Amory Lovins

Secretary of Education: Angela Valenzuela

Deputy Secretary: Geoffrey Canada

Secretary of Veterans Affairs: Max Cleland

Deputy Secretary: Isiah Legget

Secretary of Homeland Security: Janet Napolitano

Deputy Secretary: Mary Schiavo

Chief of Staff: David Bonior

National Security Advisor: Dr. Anne Cahn

Ambassador, United Nations: Susan Rice

Chair, National Economic Council: Robert Reich

Director, Immigration and Naturalization Service: Bill Ong Hing

Director, Environmental Protection Agency: Robert Kennedy, Jr.

First Supreme Court Nomination: Mari Matsuda

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Collin

DixieN wrote:

Not great, but then we had Cheney as a leader. This time we have Obama; I'm sure the story will turn out much better. Giving positions to a pack of inexperienced know-nothings is no solution at all. By the way, I never voted for Bush. Kerry, another story. He or Gore would have made much, much, much, much better presidents. They would have brought experienced people to their Cabinets as well. The implication that somehow seasoned people are not what you want seems kinda crazy to me, quite frankly. You want a guy for a doctor that once read a book? Or do you want someone tested whose done several of these procedures? I don't know. Maybe you want the guy with the book. Me, I'll take the experienced professional every time.

Who the fuck wants seasoned doctors when they have a complete disregard for anyone's health.

I prefer educated, intelligent, capable people with new ideas, new ways, not corrupt crooks and neither do I want a guy who has 'read a book once.'

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Commy wrote:

I voted for Obama. And with every pick he makes he is making me regret that more and more. As has been said, many of the adivisors he's chosen should be given subpeonas, not positions in government.


His idea of change was a sick joke. maybe that's why he beat out Apple as having the best marketing campaign in 2008.

Obama...I should of got a PC....macs are for n00bs :(