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BAH! Bailout Bill Contains CARBON TAX Provisions ! ! ! NOooooOoo!!!

DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
edited October 2008 in A Moving Train
Those sneaky fucking bastards!
HERE IS THE SECTION

THIS IS BULLSHIT.
:( :(

Its so fucking vague its hard to tell what is going on,
but it sure as fuck looks like they are trying to get the footwork in for a carbon tax by stating:

CERTAIN INCOME AND GAINS RELATING TO INDUSTRIAL SOURCE CARBON DIOXIDE TREATED AS QUALIFYING INCOME FOR PUBLICLY TRADED PARTNERSHIPS.

Translation: If you make money off of industrial carbon dioxide, it is taxable.

Huh?
That only really makes sense in the context of TRADING CARBON CREDITS.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE THOSE YET!

Hmm?

And authorizing an audit of the tax code in order to determine which provisions affect carbon emissions?

OH BOY.

infowars approved news story here.

Goddamn sneaky fuckers.
This really bugs me.
:( :( :(
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
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Comments

  • OutOfBreathOutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
    If its just porked in there, it seems odd. Then again I think that tendency to roll stuff together into 1 vote is something that really should end.

    But as for a carbon tax, I'm all for it. If that's what it takes for businesses to treat emissions seriously as a part (cost) of their economic activities (and not as a PR opportunity as today) then go ahead. Money is the only language big businesses understand, so hit them there, and they will do something about it. Skillful taxation is among the best tools we have to change business behaviour.

    But it should not be hidden among other issues.

    Peace
    Dan
    "YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death

    "Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    OutOfBreath wrote:
    If its just porked in there, it seems odd. Then again I think that tendency to roll stuff together into 1 vote is something that really should end.

    But as for a carbon tax, I'm all for it. If that's what it takes for businesses to treat emissions seriously as a part (cost) of their economic activities (and not as a PR opportunity as today) then go ahead. Money is the only language big businesses understand, so hit them there, and they will do something about it. Skillful taxation is among the best tools we have to change business behaviour.

    But it should not be hidden among other issues.

    Peace
    Dan

    You do understand that BIG business will PROFIT off of a Carbon Tax, right?
    Its called CARBON CREDITS, and they will be TRADING THEM ...

    as in WALL STREET.
    Its all part of the plan for The Big Game Ver 2.0, "Trade The Air You Breathe".

    Didn't you read the article i posted a few months ago?
    [i know you did, you made a 2bit smart ass comment in the thread]

    The Rothschilds want this, the biggest bankers in the world want this, it will give them "a new world order", and they will REPLACE GOLD WITH CARBON AS THE WORLD CURRENCY.

    It sounds like a bum deal to me.
    But i guess one would have to grasp some loftier concepts than mundane "business accountability" to grasp that.
    And god knows having this argument with a declared socialist is probably a losing proposition. I like you OOB, but you always come across a bit thick when it comes to stuff like this.

    The fact remains, a carbon tax will BE BAD FOR THE PEOPLE, and GREAT FOR THEIR MASTERS.

    :(
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • OutOfBreathOutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
    Someone will make money off it, certainly. We have a capiltalist system where everything is benefiting someone. But I dont get an allergic rash from the mention of taxation, like some people. Carbon credits looks like a way to get something done. To put it another way, if wall street wheeler/dealers make money off reduced emissions, then great. Sounds like win/win to me. The game remains the same, but there is a beneficial side-effect from tossing up the rules. That's the easiest way to get some change, actually.

    I did read the article you posted 2 months ago, and wasn't too impressed. It holds a lot less ominosity when you're not categorically allergic to taxes, and dont buy into the mega-conspiracy. Besides, you are a fan of capitalism and markets, which will always work so that some fat cats have a lot of money, and hence power, which they can and almost certainly will abuse. The system won't work much different if you just switch the individuals that sit on the cash.

    But porking is an abomination, you have my support on that.

    Peace
    Dan
    "YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death

    "Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
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