New Documentary Disproves Official 9/11 Hoax Once and For All

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  • spyguy
    spyguy Posts: 613
    drfitinginstorms please please please pull yourself away from infowars and give this a watch...

    http://dsc.discovery.com/tv-schedules/special.html?paid=1.403.25859.0.0
  • azwyldcats
    azwyldcats Posts: 711
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    yeah, watch the film and say that.

    it amazes me how truly ignorant and wilfully so some of you folks are around here.

    Nope, I just do not believe blindly in your sources/version of events. I have the ability, unlike you, to review and analyze the footage and make my own decisions, conclusions, beliefs, which aren't necessarily yours. One can disagree. Who is truly ignorant? One may say you are.
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  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Israeli's with connections to Israeli secret service having a good time enjoying 9/11 "cinema verite" style in a van with explosives residue, and a sock stuffed full of cash...all of whom are immediately released when the FBI (?!?!?!) promptly steps in. I guess the FBI does that a lot these days...

    not true.

    The five Israelis were held at the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn, ostensibly for overstaying their tourist visas and working in the United States illegally. Two weeks after their arrest, an immigration judge ordered them to be deported. But sources told ABCNEWS that FBI and CIA officials in Washington put a hold on the case.

    The five men were held in detention for more than two months. Some of them were placed in solitary confinement for 40 days, and some of them were given as many as seven lie-detector tests.

    the FBI didnt step in and have them released.. they actually stepped in and kept them detained much longer.


    and you said the van 'tested positive' for explosives residue... a dog barked? is that how things are 'tested positive' these days... do people go for HIV tests these days and have a badger smirk at them... "oh he must have HIV, the badger smirked' ;) but was there any conclusive scientific tests conducted in which explosive residues were definitely found?

    i'm neither here not there with this stuff, but facts should be posted at all times or it makes the argument weaker imo.
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • spyguy
    spyguy Posts: 613
    dunkman wrote:
    not true.

    The five Israelis were held at the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn, ostensibly for overstaying their tourist visas and working in the United States illegally. Two weeks after their arrest, an immigration judge ordered them to be deported. But sources told ABCNEWS that FBI and CIA officials in Washington put a hold on the case.

    The five men were held in detention for more than two months. Some of them were placed in solitary confinement for 40 days, and some of them were given as many as seven lie-detector tests.

    the FBI didnt step in and have them released.. they actually stepped in and kept them detained much longer.


    and you said the van 'tested positive' for explosives residue... a dog barked? is that how things are 'tested positive' these days... do people go for HIV tests these days and have a badger smirk at them... "oh he must have HIV, the badger smirked' ;) but was there any conclusive scientific tests conducted in which explosive residues were definitely found?

    i'm neither here not there with this stuff, but facts should be posted at all times or it makes the argument weaker imo.

    this is a classic example of how people like roland make up their own version of events and play them off as fact.

    that is basically how people like alex jones and the creators of loose change do their thang.

    they kind of create their own reality in their head and convince themselves its true.
  • spyguy
    spyguy Posts: 613
    spyguy wrote:
    drfitinginstorms please please please pull yourself away from infowars and give this a watch...

    http://dsc.discovery.com/tv-schedules/special.html?paid=1.403.25859.0.0

    I really hope people watch this.
  • spyguy
    spyguy Posts: 613
    spyguy wrote:
    drfitinginstorms please please please pull yourself away from infowars and give this a watch...

    http://dsc.discovery.com/tv-schedules/special.html?paid=1.403.25859.0.0

    storm, will u watch this?
  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    spyguy wrote:
    storm, will u watch this?

    Sure.
    I've watched every other POS "debunking" program they put out.
    Why not this crapper as well.

    Look.
    I don't give a fuck what bombs were in what buildings.
    I've been down this road a thousand times here.
    There may or may not have been bombs in any buildings,
    and the pentagon (after a half decade plus of research) does turn up to look like a plane wreck ...

    but NONE of that changes the fact that there VERY CLEARLY was FOREIGN GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT IN 911 and US complicity in covering it up ...

    war game smoke screens, foreign intelligence services surveilling the grounds the day off, foreign intelligence heads (ISI Chief from Pakistan) wiring 100K dollars to Attah and then being in NYC day before and after 9/11 and our government either denying it, saying (like Biden did) that "it's classified" or otherwise obfuscating the truth, FBI agents saying they were deliberately stopped in their investigations and actually suing the government for this, and of course lets not forget the fact that at least 5 of the 19 SAUDI hijackers WERE TRAINED RIGHT HERE IN AMERICA, AT US MILITARY BASES.

    And of course NONE of this will EVER be in a bullshit Discovery Channel documentary.

    And none of it will ever be responded to in rational fashion by those like yourself.

    Right?

    Yup.
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  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    And none of it will ever be responded to in rational fashion by those like yourself.

    Right?


    and your posts are the epitome of 'rational' then are they?
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    yeah, watch the film and say that.

    it amazes me how truly ignorant and wilfully so some of you folks are around here.
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    Honestly,
    i'm amazed you still have a fucking account.
    You are the most beligerant trash on this board.

    Try watching the film,
    and maybe we'll see if you STFU a little.


    :D
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • spyguy
    spyguy Posts: 613
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    Sure.
    I've watched every other POS "debunking" program they put out.
    Why not this crapper as well.

    Look.
    I don't give a fuck what bombs were in what buildings.
    I've been down this road a thousand times here.
    There may or may not have been bombs in any buildings,
    and the pentagon (after a half decade plus of research) does turn up to look like a plane wreck ...

    but NONE of that changes the fact that there VERY CLEARLY was FOREIGN GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT IN 911 and US complicity in covering it up ...

    war game smoke screens, foreign intelligence services surveilling the grounds the day off, foreign intelligence heads (ISI Chief from Pakistan) wiring 100K dollars to Attah and then being in NYC day before and after 9/11 and our government either denying it, saying (like Biden did) that "it's classified" or otherwise obfuscating the truth, FBI agents saying they were deliberately stopped in their investigations and actually suing the government for this, and of course lets not forget the fact that at least 5 of the 19 SAUDI hijackers WERE TRAINED RIGHT HERE IN AMERICA, AT US MILITARY BASES.

    And of course NONE of this will EVER be in a bullshit Discovery Channel documentary.

    And none of it will ever be responded to in rational fashion by those like yourself.

    Right?

    Yup.

    you really dont get it. did you know it was customary for the US intelligent agencies to NOT share information?

    none of your little videos show a shred of proof that the government planned and executed the attacks. all circumstantial evidence. that is NOT proof, even though you'd like it be.
  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    spyguy wrote:
    all circumstantial evidence.
    Some 70% PLUS of ALL convictions in US Courts of Law are based on your so called flimsy "circumstantial evidence".

    It can be every bit as valid proof as the not nearly so common "direct evidence".

    From the fucking encylopedia britannica:
    ency wrote:
    Most criminal convictions are based, at least in part, on circumstantial evidence that sufficiently links criminal and crime.
    spyguy wrote:
    you really dont get it. did you know it was customary for the US intelligent agencies to NOT share information?

    Yeah. and did you know thats not what i'm fucking talking about at all?
    I'm talking about FBI agents claiming THEIR OWN AGENCY stopped their OWN AGENTS from investigating the Bin Ladens, and from investigating certain hijackers known to be in the US prior to 9/11. At least one of these agents has actually filed suit against the government for this apparently deliberate derailing of an investigation which very possibly could have led to the capture of these alleged "Al Qaeda" members BEFORE the death of 3000 some odd innoncent lives.

    Yet once again, you would rather misrepresent the claims herein stated.
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  • spyguy
    spyguy Posts: 613
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    Some 70% PLUS of ALL convictions in US Courts of Law are based on your so called flimsy "circumstantial evidence".

    It can be every bit as valid proof as the not nearly so common "direct evidence".

    From the fucking encylopedia britannica:

    what a joke

    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    Yeah. and did you know thats not what i'm fucking talking about at all?

    just stating a fact buddy boy. this fact herein causing the problems you stated below...
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    I'm talking about FBI agents claiming THEIR OWN AGENCY stopped their OWN AGENTS from investigating the Bin Ladens, and from investigating certain hijackers known to be in the US prior to 9/11. At least one of these agents has actually filed suit against the government for this apparently deliberate derailing of an investigation which very possibly could have led to the capture of these alleged "Al Qaeda" members BEFORE the death of 3000 some odd innoncent lives.

    Yet once again, you would rather misrepresent the claims herein stated.

    herein states how fucked up and stupid our intelligent agencies were prior to 9/11. we passed on a ton of evidence that could have stopped the attacks. The CIA, NSA, and FBI could have stopped 9/11 countless times but didnt. you seem to think "they" did it on purpose because "they" were the ones really planning and executing these attacks.

    who is "they" ? why hasn't one person come forward?

    any cover up and shady shit that happened after 9/11 was only done to cover up how incompetent they actually were.

    lay off alex jones, he's an asshole
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

    it amazes me how truly ignorant and wilfully so some of you folks are around here.

    that statement can go both ways...
  • drsluggo
    drsluggo Posts: 4,742
    my2hands wrote:
    that statement can go both ways...
    EXACTLY.

    Although... if Obama was president he could have stopped the planes with his divine intervention. ;)
  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    spyguy wrote:
    who is "they" ? why hasn't one person come forward?

    it took many years after the fact before anyone came forward regarding JFK.

    In fact, to my knowledge, the ONLY person actually involved in the whole thing who EVER came forward regarding the events was E Howard Hunt.
    And he only did it from his deathbed, and only some 50 years after the damn event happened.

    Why would this necessarily be any different?
    ???

    PS - but you know who DID come forward, and told the truth, DAY OF THE TRAGEDY?
    THE RUSSIANS.
    Yep, Russia issued a statement saying that the assassination was the result of a internal government plot to overthrow the president. Of course the American news media, from Cronkite on down, dismissed this as "vile Russian propaganda of the most despicable order".

    Just an interesting tid bit for ya.
    ;)
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    it took many years after the fact before anyone came forward regarding JFK.

    In fact, to my knowledge, the ONLY person actually involved in the whole thing who EVER came forward regarding the events was E Howard Hunt.
    And he only did it from his deathbed, and only some 50 years after the damn event happened.

    Why would this necessarily be any different?
    ???

    :rolleyes:

    there is a huge difference between assasinating one person and hijacking multiple planes, planting explosives in the worlds largest and busiest office building, coordinating with NORAD, the neocon elements that contruct the plan... massive difference, especially in the amount of man power and how many are invloved

    but there is no telling you anything... you believe anything this fancy little box tells you ;)


    give me a call when one of the hundreds of 9/11 conspirators comes out with the story :rolleyes:
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

    PS - but you know who DID come forward, and told the truth, DAY OF THE TRAGEDY?
    THE RUSSIANS.
    Yep, Russia issued a statement saying that the assassination was the result of a internal government plot to overthrow the president. Of course the American news media, from Cronkite on down, dismissed this as "vile Russian propaganda of the most despicable order".

    Just an interesting tid bit for ya.
    ;)

    so you believe the 1963 Kremlin, but you dont believe anything your government ever says?

    dude, you are really grasping... you take any alternative version as fact as long as it paints the american govt as an evil all knowing and all seeing entitity hell bent on world destruction :rolleyes:


    "RUSSIA SAID IT WAS SO!!!!!" hahahahahahaha
  • spyguy
    spyguy Posts: 613
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    it took many years after the fact before anyone came forward regarding JFK.

    In fact, to my knowledge, the ONLY person actually involved in the whole thing who EVER came forward regarding the events was E Howard Hunt.
    And he only did it from his deathbed, and only some 50 years after the damn event happened.

    Why would this necessarily be any different?
    ???

    that was a few generations ago. times were different. people were different. there was no internet, cell phones, computers. saying it happened then (which is debatable) so it can happen now is not proof. dont u get that?

    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    PS - but you know who DID come forward, and told the truth, DAY OF THE TRAGEDY?
    THE RUSSIANS.
    Yep, Russia issued a statement saying that the assassination was the result of a internal government plot to overthrow the president. Of course the American news media, from Cronkite on down, dismissed this as "vile Russian propaganda of the most despicable order".

    Just an interesting tid bit for ya.
    ;)

    you sure do love you some russians. you do know who the USSR is/was right?
  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    spyguy wrote:
    that was a few generations ago. times were different. people were different. there was no internet, cell phones, computers. saying it happened then (which is debatable) so it can happen now is not proof. dont u get that?




    you sure do love you some russians. you do know who the USSR is/was right?

    I don't see how cell phones, computers, or the internet make it any easier for someone to come forward in a CREDIBLE fashion with out fear of reprisal.

    Technology does not preclude the necessity for a claim to have a source for people like YOU to accept it, right.
    So what are you saying, some weasel could come out and post anonymous information on the internet, and you would believe it, with out seeing a source and credentials? Don't you already have PLENTY of that? :rolleyes:

    And i'm really not in the mood to play semantic games with you.
    Of course i know what the fucking Soviet Union is, and i understand that it is not the same as the Russian Federation.
    i don't really give a fuck. I said "The Russians" because it draws out the modern context of the reference.
    If we're talking about JFK, and i say "the russians", i think you can make the connection.
    Right?

    or are you just in that much of a struggle to prove your intellectual superiority?
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  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    driftingbythestorm wrote:
    but NONE of that changes the fact that there VERY CLEARLY was FOREIGN GOVERNMENT INVOLVEMENT IN 911 and US complicity in covering it up ...

    war game smoke screens, foreign intelligence services surveilling the grounds the day off, foreign intelligence heads (ISI Chief from Pakistan) wiring 100K dollars to Attah and then being in NYC day before and after 9/11 and our government either denying it, saying (like Biden did) that "it's classified" or otherwise obfuscating the truth, FBI agents saying they were deliberately stopped in their investigations and actually suing the government for this, and of course lets not forget the fact that at least 5 of the 19 SAUDI hijackers WERE TRAINED RIGHT HERE IN AMERICA, AT US MILITARY BASES.

    And of course NONE of this will EVER be in a bullshit Discovery Channel documentary.

    and none of it will ever be responded to in rational fashion by those like yourself.

    Right?

    CLEARLY i was correct.
    You dodge questions better than anyone else on this board, me thinks.

    You don't care to take a stab at any of that, huh?
    I mean, except for perverting my statements by insinuating that i am talking about information sharing, when not once did i mention that directly or by inference.

    So WHAT ABOUT the dancing israelis, with $7000 in a sock, traces of explosives in their van, and their ADMISSION OF BEING ISRAELI INTELLIGENCE\MOSSAD AGENTS?

    That doesn't alarm you in the slightest?
    THEY ADMITTED ON TELEVISION THEY WERE SENT TO AMERICA TO FILM THE ATTACKS. THEY ADMIT THEY ARE MOSSAD AGENTS.

    How bout that for starters?

    And then you can get to all the other revelations reiterated in FABLED ENEMIES regarding prior knowledge, foreign government involvement, and US resistance to allowing the truth out on the airwaves.

    Why won't Biden talk about ISI Chief Mahmoud Ahmad, and simply grins and says "That's classified"?

    Why does a senator on the 9/11 Commission actually go on national television saying the one thing that really stood out to him was that there was "foreign government involvement" and that this "remains classified" and that many elements of 9/11 remain "unecessarily classified" and that the american people should know?

    AND WHY WON'T YOU RESPOND TO ANY OF THIS IN AN HONEST FASHION?
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  • spyguy
    spyguy Posts: 613
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    CLEARLY i was correct.
    You dodge questions better than anyone else on this board, me thinks.

    debating with you about this is like debating outlaw about Israel. you dont see it any other way then how Alex Jones portrays it. so whats the point?
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

    So WHAT ABOUT the dancing israelis, with $7000 in a sock, traces of explosives in their van, and their ADMISSION OF BEING ISRAELI INTELLIGENCE\MOSSAD AGENTS?

    That doesn't alarm you in the slightest?
    THEY ADMITTED ON TELEVISION THEY WERE SENT TO AMERICA TO FILM THE ATTACKS. THEY ADMIT THEY ARE MOSSAD AGENTS.

    first of all, its reported they had $4800. just need to point out how you will make shit up to exaggerate your claims.

    why is it that this is the overwhelming evidence I keep hearing about? what does this prove?

    http://www.erichufschmid.net/TFC/Bollyn-dancing-Israelis.html

    "The five men were held in detention for more than two months. Some of them were placed in solitary confinement for 40 days and given as many as seven lie-detector tests. "


    IMO, they should not have been let go. but again, what does this prove?

    sure ist possible they may have known something was going to happen. thats supposed to mean the american government planned and executed the attacks?
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

    And then you can get to all the other revelations reiterated in FABLED ENEMIES regarding prior knowledge, foreign government involvement, and US resistance to allowing the truth out on the airwaves.

    please refer back to my posts about how much the US intelligence agencys sucked prior to 9/11. its called incompetence.
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    Why won't Biden talk about ISI Chief Mahmoud Ahmad, and simply grins and says "That's classified"?

    the US is in bed with many shady ass characters. why does this surprise you? again, this proves nothing

    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    Why does a senator on the 9/11 Commission actually go on national television saying the one thing that really stood out to him was that there was "foreign government involvement" and that this "remains classified" and that many elements of 9/11 remain "unecessarily classified" and that the american people should know?

    yes we should now. lets unclassify everything., im game.

    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    AND WHY WON'T YOU RESPOND TO ANY OF THIS IN AN HONEST FASHION?

    you are an alex jones brainwashed solider. dont talk to me about honesty.

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