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Protesting Tibetan Monks Brutaly Clubbed By Cops - In NEW YORK, USA [VIDEO]
DriftingByTheStorm
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I swear to god.
Here is a link with video ...
... i don't know whats wrong with me these days, but somewhere around the 5minute30 mark i just lost it and got tears in my eyes.
This is almost a minute past the part where you hear a woman crying and shrieking violently in response to the attacking NYPD ...
... i think what got me was when the camera zoomed in and freeze framed on the faces enough so that one could clearly discern that these men were indeed Tibetan Buddhists ... at which point it just hit me ... these are the same brave souls who are violently oppressed in their own country ... they are executed in cold fashion, or sent to secret prisons to be tortured and starved for life ... and they come here to exercise free speech in protest of this violent tyranny at home ... they come here ... to New York City ... what some would call the true capital of the free world ... to the United Nations building itself ... to speak their opposition to such cruelty ...
...and how are they met?
With metal clubs to the back and legs, and kicks to the chest. Faces shoved to the pavement, and handcuffed.
What were the charges?
So far as i know, protesting with out a permit.
:(
Can i get a response or two?
This seriously fucked up my day.
:(
Here is a link with video ...
... i don't know whats wrong with me these days, but somewhere around the 5minute30 mark i just lost it and got tears in my eyes.
This is almost a minute past the part where you hear a woman crying and shrieking violently in response to the attacking NYPD ...
... i think what got me was when the camera zoomed in and freeze framed on the faces enough so that one could clearly discern that these men were indeed Tibetan Buddhists ... at which point it just hit me ... these are the same brave souls who are violently oppressed in their own country ... they are executed in cold fashion, or sent to secret prisons to be tortured and starved for life ... and they come here to exercise free speech in protest of this violent tyranny at home ... they come here ... to New York City ... what some would call the true capital of the free world ... to the United Nations building itself ... to speak their opposition to such cruelty ...
...and how are they met?
With metal clubs to the back and legs, and kicks to the chest. Faces shoved to the pavement, and handcuffed.
What were the charges?
So far as i know, protesting with out a permit.
:(
Can i get a response or two?
This seriously fucked up my day.
:(
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
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blatant civil disobedience, and gentle cops
These monks are CLEARLY blocking traffic and engaged in civil disobedience, and yet the NYPD in this instance is perfectly rationed, and removes them with apparent grace and calm.
Yet you put 10 of them walking together on a sidewalk,
suddenly they need to be beaten with billy clubs and tackled to the ground?
I just don't get it.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
I saw this two days ago and had the same reaction. I would have gone to jail that day if I would have seen this happening. The "odd" thing is it hasnt shown up on mainstream media outlets. Unbelieveable.
Also, these are NOT actual monks. These are supporters. Monks would be in traditional garb and would NOT do anything to cause attention to themselves. Not to mention that they would not defy authority, shout at others or run into traffic.
It's important to have all facts rather than just sensationalized hype before drawing conclusions.
Obviously the amount of police action for this protest was uncalled for. But these are NOT monks and the protest was not entirely peaceful.
honestly i didn't even realize i typed that.
You said, "they are NOT monks" and i was actualy sitting here thinking, "when did i ever say they were monks?" ... lol ... need to edit the title.
I do believe they are Tibetan Buddhists, however. Monks or not -- okay, not.
As to the undocumented "prexisting tension", i dunno. Like you said, we don't see it if it exists. I do see one of them pushing on an officer, but the officer was pushing on him ... and obviously that doesn't give you the right to attack an officer of the law, but who is to say what started the conflict.
You do see cops running out in to the street to try and stop them from crossing, which to me makes no sense. And then you have the cars pulling up on the sidewalk, which is nearly inexplicable.
Anyhow.
???
PS - Monks WOULD "defy authority" though. Check out my second post. Blatant civil disobedience. I think you mean they will stand up and allow themselves to be arrested without violent protest in response, to which i agree. As to the "draw attention to themselves", well ... setting yourself on fire sure does draw attention, imho.
AND you hit the nail on the head. I don't think i need to sensationalize anything (though obviously the cameraman sure seems to be a bit over the top, but honestly c'mon) ... because you said it yourself, "the amount of police action for this protest was uncalled for." ... period.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
BUT, the cops were the ones who apparently escalated this action based on the video. There was no running around in the streets until after the cops drove their cars and vans up on the sidewalks blocking their passage. At that point they still weren't running in the streets until the dipshit cops started hitting people. Then chaos ensued. Pretty disgusting. At least it wasn't Red China where they'd pull out the tanks and get Tienanmen on them, but it was totally uncalled for and I hope those asshole cops who instigated it get fired.
i completely edited the title.
i was emotional when i made this thread, sorry.
wasn't thinking clearly, just typing blindly.
obviously they are not monks.
SORRY.
The rest of what you wrote, i agree with 100%.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
pretty fucking sad....:(
I understand what you are saying and agree. And i think we cant find just one or two responsible, has a responsible mentality. Unhappyly. Worst is that if this happens in New York, the capital of the free world, is saddest to imagine what is happening in Lhasa.
Great thread.
http://www.withfriendship.com/user/images/750/budist_monk_on_fire.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thich_Quang_Duc
any country where you need a 'permit' to protest cant be the self elected leader of the free world.
Ok, tks for clarifying this to me.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
This video made me sick. Especially when that fucking pig said, "Turn it off so I can talk to you for a second." I think leaving the camera on is probably the only thing that saved the cameraman from getting clubbed himself.
Your generalization is misplaced.
Of course not. But if Britney Spears shaves her choochie next week, the media will be all over it with pictures, film and with detailed diagrams of the different possible methods Britney may have used to shave her choochie.
Wake up people, America is already waist deep into facism and it's only going to get worse if we don't stand up and fight against it.
Naomi Wolf's 10 Step Program
these are not just her posits for America.
These are 10 steps she asserts that ALL dictators take on their quest towards fascisms, with history backing her.
:cool:
bonus: the highly literate, and well reasoned Naomi Wolf
If I opened it now would you not understand?
There was demonstrating downtown yesterday.
B@stards!!
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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http://www.maniacworld.com/enjoy-your-time-protesting.html
Why not? You support the strict enforcement of a permit system to exercise our 2nd Amendment Rights, why not our 1st Amendment Rights too?
About two or three weeks ago there was a peaceful protest here (Belgium) against a far right group. Four of my friends live in the street where this took place. It was peaceful. But then the police started beating protesters, arresting them... for no reason. One of my friends went outside to take pictures and to record the police brutality. He was hit twice and stomped, taken in and was released two hours later. The press claimed the protesters attacked the police.
Naomi Wolf
naděje umírá poslední
Words don't kill?
naděje umírá poslední
Neither do guns.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Almost there, Drifting... I think you can figure out the difference if you think long and hard enough. Just use your brain. You can do it!
naděje umírá poslední
Explain.
You want me to explain to you the difference between words and guns?
naděje umírá poslední
Collin, meet brick wall.
I want you to explain how words are any less dangerous than guns. You got this figured out already so let's hear it.
If I shoot you, you die.
Pretty clear really
If YOU shoot him,
or if a GUN shoots him?
If I opened it now would you not understand?