FBI & SS Seize ALL Liberty Dollar Assets - Gold, Platinum, Computers & Records
DriftingByTheStorm
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This is fucking BULLSHIT.
Frontal Assault On Your Liberty
How can the government ban your ability to own gold, or to buy private debt notes redeemable for gold?
YOU SHOULD BE OUTRAGED.
You probably won't be.
Frontal Assault On Your Liberty
How can the government ban your ability to own gold, or to buy private debt notes redeemable for gold?
YOU SHOULD BE OUTRAGED.
You probably won't be.
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
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hell, they can take yr house and property if they want
Either a REAL gold coin (not this fake gold crap the government gives us - that sacofjew-wee-ah bullcrap) REAL GOLD ...
... or a promisory note to give you gold if you send in the paper.
But a REAL NOTE ... not a worthless piece of paper that just says "Hey, i'm a piece of paper, i'm worth something, see? Look at that big number in the corner!"
No, these notes actualy said "REDEEMABLE IN GOLD"!
But the Government don't want that!
NO NO NO!
It's not counterfeit because it doesn't attempt to defraud someone in to thinking it is a "real" dollar ... they look quite dissimilar ...
IT IS NOT ILLEGAL!
If I opened it now would you not understand?
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Gold is worthless to me.
...are those who've helped us.
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That makes sense, I know you are not allowed to print your own currency in Canada, which is why Canadian Tire Money has a disclaimer on it that says it is not money, but a cash bonuc coupon.
I can cut a button off my shirt and paint a number on it and call it currency tomorrow if it's of value to someone. That's not illegal.
It's only illegal if I make it look like official legal tender when it is not, which is called counterfeiting.
The government just wants their cut of your existence. It's fucking slavery is what it is.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Yes and no.
Mostly no.
See Roland above.
Mostly the laws are for counterfeiting.
There is some argument that you cant make your own money system ...
... but does that mean i don't have the right to write you up a promisory note to pay you in gold?
Is that any different from "money" ?
Is that any different from a "Ron Paul Dollar"?
What if they called it a "Ron Paul Promisory Gold Certificate"?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Any bets if it was a piece of paper they wouldn't give two shits?... (i.e. monopoly money)
Goes to show you what gold is worth eh? ....and what paper is really worth (wiping your a**)
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over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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I think the idea behind the Canadian Law is the fact that they don't want every bank or whoever printing their own legal currency, since it would be a total mess (and was done here in the past). Plus it could be argued that setting up your own currency could be a step to overthrowing the government (not saying it makes a ton of sense but someone could argue it).
that's called a contract. for $500 american dollars per hour i'm willing to draw one up for you.
that's my point!
Money is something of intrinsic worth -- ie ... GOLD.
A note ... is simply a promise to pay someone money ...
Here is what i'm talking about:
[from one of my new favorite books, The Creature From Jekyll Island, page 126]
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Even the government cannot define money. Some years ago, a Mr. A.F. Davis mailed a ten-dollar FEderal Reserve Note to the Treasury Department. In his letter of transmittal, he called attention to the inscription on the bill [long since removed] which said that it was redeemable in "lawful money", and then requested that such money be sent to him. In reply, the Treasury merely sent two five-dollar bills from a different printing series bearing a similar promise to pay. Mr. Davis responded:
Dear Sir:
Receipt is hereby acknowledged of two $5.00 United States notes, which we interpret from your letter are to be considered as lawful money. Are we to infer from this that the Federal Reserve notes are not lawful money?
I am enclosing one of the $5.00 notes which you sent to me. I note that it states on the face, "The United States of America will pay to the bearer on demand five dollars." I am hereby demanding five dollars.
One week later, Mr. Davis received the following reply from Acting Treasurer, M.E. Slindee:
Dear Mr. Davis:
Receipt is acknowledged of your letter of December 23rd, transmitting one $5 United States Note with a demnad for payment of five dollars. You are advised that hte term "lawful money" has not been defined in federal legislation.... the term "lawful currency" no longer has such special significance. The $5 United States Note received with your letter of December 23rd is returend herewith.
The phrases "...will pay to the bearer on demand" and "...is redeemable in lawful money" were deleted from our currency altogeather in 1964."
So, Mr. Contract Specialist, Soulsing ... what exactly was your point?
ALL paper dollars used to be "contracts" ... thats all they EVER were intended to be ... a "note" ... a fucking DEBT note ... saying "I Uncle Sam did not give you gold, i gave you a piece of paper ... i am in debt X amount of gold to you ... give me your piece of paper and i will give you the gold."
At some point the Government decided this was a losing proposition for them, and they would just like to keep the gold altogeather ...
thus, "lawful money" suddenly became "undefined in federal regulation" ... a term that, no doubt, did not need to be defined because throughout american history people understood that paper was SIMPLY A CONTRACTUAL INSTRUMENT CONVEYING A PROMISE OF PAYMENT OF DEBT!
EVERYONE knew what a dollar was ... a dollar was a goddamn piece of gold (ok, it was actualy SILVER) ... but that is what it was ... a SILVER DOLLAR ... it was only later that they started printing paper redeemable on demand in gold or silver.
I guess i just don't get the point of your smart ass comment.
Are you telling me something i don't know, or do you simply not know anything and are thus telling me so?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
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my point is you can't "print your own currency or money" and the post i quoted you say "how come i can't give a promissory note for gold?" you can. it's called a legal contract. you can draw them up. you cannot and do not need to print your own money.
Last time i checked the constitution didn't give the congress a monopoly on the right to print money.
It did give them the right to do so, even though they GAVE IT AWAY to international bankers doing business under the guise of a private corporation known as the "Federal" "Reserve".
But it didn't say ONLY the congress could print money.
If Americans are rightly concerned about the devaluing of their Federal Reserve Notes, are they not allowed to find some alternative means of trading wealth with eachother?
Apparently that answer is "No!"
You must use the FRNotes or face prosecution and outright theft of your personal property.
No one was even charged with a crime yesterday, but the FBI walked off with an untold fortune of gold, platinum, silver, and copper ... much of which was being held in reserve for paying customers who had nothing more than promisory notes in hand!
Coincidence that the warrant for this raid was issued the day after this unceremonius ass whooping occured?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
yeah, I think it's even part of that whole "Constitution" thing...
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Steve Forbes was one of 4 panels on Kudlow's show on MSNBC the other day after Ron Paul blasted Bernake.
3 of the 4 panelists, including Steve Forbes were ALL for competing currency ... Forbes specificaly was behind a gold backed currency!
If I opened it now would you not understand?
I particularly liked this part, which was Bernake's retort to RP.
``He is a total fool,'' Rogers said. ``He said Americans who buy only American goods are not affected if the value of the U.S. dollar goes down. I was terrified.''
Bernanke said the only effect of a weaker dollar on a typical American with their wealth in dollars, buying consumer goods in dollars, would be ``their buying powers, it makes imported goods more expensive.''
Rogers said that's not right.
``If you only buy American products and the dollar goes down, the price of oil goes up, copper goes up, wheat goes up,'' he said. ``That affects you. He doesn't understand the economy as far as I can see.''
I guess Bernake doesn't think a lot about the cost of oil affecting people.
FED....Fucking Everyone Daily
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