Holy Fuck-Mitt and Hillary BOTH Stepping Up To LIE About Donations To Slight Ron Paul
DriftingByTheStorm
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This is RIDICULOUS!
Lies Lies Lies
BOTH Mitt Romney AND Hillary Clinton are LYING ... OUTRIGHT LYING ... about rasing over 6 Million a piece in one day.
Its like, Ron Paul sets a fucking record so the "real" candidates step up to give the media a line to out-do Ron and keep him in the shadows. And its false. Complete crap!
WTF !!???!!
Lies Lies Lies
BOTH Mitt Romney AND Hillary Clinton are LYING ... OUTRIGHT LYING ... about rasing over 6 Million a piece in one day.
Its like, Ron Paul sets a fucking record so the "real" candidates step up to give the media a line to out-do Ron and keep him in the shadows. And its false. Complete crap!
WTF !!???!!
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If I opened it now would you not understand?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
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Sam and Diane, Cheers. The Later Years.
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What counts is anyway how much money you raise total, not what you raise in 1 day. And I dont find it at all unlikely that bigger candidates than Paul raise a hell of a lot more money.
On a sidenote, I think it's wrong when politics and who has a chance to reach out and get elected depend so heavily on how much money they can spend. That's a system that if not corrupted from the outset lays the door wide open for it.
Peace
Dan
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
No man.
What counts is how many people come out to vote for you.
What this largest showing of finacial support in 24 hours shows is that Ron Paul has REAL INDIVIDUAL support.
No other candidate is getting thousands and thousands of INDIVIDUALS togeather to voice their opinion on such a grassroots and self-organized basis.
What the "Ron Paul 'Revolution' " shows is that there is a huge pool of REAL people out there who are sick of it and who are putting their money where their mouths and personal beliefs are.
If Giuliani and Romney pull in 4 times as much but get 12 times more of it from just a handfull of corporations, what that says is that Ron Paul has more REAL VOTES than the other candidates.
I don't know, we'll see what happens.
But the fact that Ron Paul is symbolic of a mass movement in America is undeniable.
Well, they ARE trying to deny it, but it doesn't make it any less real than the holocaust was when the world was in denial.
Catch my flow?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
I get that Paul is the anti-establishment vote, and has gained a bit more momentum than is normal for a fringe candidate. And he has a bit more grassroots thing going on. And that you're quite the fan of him.
But that doesnt mean that the only legitimate, real individual political expression is the one Paul stands for.
Peace
Dan
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
I'm saying NO other candidate has had ANY indicators of their likeability that come CLOSE to standing in the light of Ron Paul.
He may or he may not win anything, but that may or may not be a testament to the media and their ability to manipulate the public perception more than anything else.
Go see my new thread on "Holy shit" ...
it really is ridiculous.
Anyhow.
I'm not demeaning any other candidate intentionaly.
I'm just saying what is obivous and seemingly factual.
Ron Paul has had followers that consistently go out of their way to show the public their support for their candidate.
Either you think that he is ONLY capable of drawing some strange small "fringe" of supporters who are overly zealous and wiling to speak out, or you are forced to conclude that for each crazy zealous fan he has he has 10 or 100 or 1000 more that aren't quite that rabid yet.
I dunno dan.
What do you think.
Do you think the american public is so polarized that their only these "few" crazy "fringe" fans that raise 4.2 million dollars in a day and the entire rest of the populace is just plopping down their vote for giuliani (remember, we're talking primaries here, and i know a lot of "democrats" who are voting ron paul in the primaries) ?
Or do you think that Ron Paul, if he achieves any sort of popular attention (via ads and media -- though the media attention latetly is EXTREMELY slanderous) will pull out a much more ravenous base to the polls than either of the other obviously puppet rigged canddiates out there running?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Given the system you have where winner takes all, and a very set rep/dem divide, basically having a system favouring only (those two) big parties, I dont see him stand a chance in this presidential. When it comes to building anything for the future out of it, depends. Small candidates draw a lot of enthusiastic support from the true believers, just like the Nader campaign in 2000. But given your system, it is hard to build anything lasting on such campaigns. You could hope that his camapign influences the other rep candidates, and that's about it.
Now, I am critical to the US electoral system and how it works. And I dont think it's right that "raised money" should have that much of an impact, as that gives undue influence to wealthy individuals and major parties.
Nevertheless, I see no need or justification for belittling all the people who legitimately support and believe in the major candidates. (there's a reason they are "major" candidates at all) Given that their support is in the magnitude 5 times + bigger than Paul, then it is not crazy to assume that they have their fair share of true believers too.
And although Paul supporters arranged to all give him the money on the same day, and it turned out to be a big lump of money, doesn't translate that he is the "true" candidate that everyone really wants to vote for, but is hindered by the machinations of the corrupt establishment. I would guess that the major candidates have quite a long list of individual donors as well, most likely outdoing Paul.
Peace
Dan
"Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
I like your use of the term, "true believer."
Eric Hofer would be proud.
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Er........Whose Ron Paul?