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Republican Debate on MSNBC -- 9PM EST, Oct 9th

DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
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you know, the place where all the muslims live.
;)

Ron Paul will be there, though you wouldn't know it from the news coverage on MSNBC today, which failed to mention him at all.

Apparently it isn't airing live, and I hear from FOX that RPaul got some applause for his stance on the war.

DISCUSS THE DEBATE AS IT HAPPENS.
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  • beachdwellerbeachdweller Posts: 1,532
    Chris Matthews just got done interviewing Ron Paul live after on Hardball. MSNBC has also shown many clips of Paul's answers during other candidates interviews, pushing them on issues and their answers.

    I think he got credible coverage. He deservers more though.
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  • YoyoyoYoyoyo Posts: 310
    Does MSNBC have a livestream I can watch the debates on? I can't find anything on their site..
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  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    beachdweller wrote:
    Chris Matthews just got done interviewing Ron Paul live after on Hardball. MSNBC has also shown many clips of Paul's answers during other candidates interviews, pushing them on issues and their answers.

    I think he got credible coverage. He deservers more though.

    I watched for 3 hours this morning just to "keep 'em honest" ... during the entire morning, he was not mentioned once.

    But I'm glad they aren't trying to pretend he isn't there right while he IS actualy there.

    ;)
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  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    Mestophar wrote:
    Does MSNBC have a livestream I can watch the debates on? I can't find anything on their site..
    They are broadcasting at 9PM est ...

    The debate was actually held around 4PM, i believe, as it is over now, and they are showing clips.

    But the ENTIRE debate is scheduled for 9pm primetime broadcast on MSNBC.

    ;)
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  • YoyoyoYoyoyo Posts: 310
    Wonder if they are gunna cut the good points out, as to bring the level of debate low enough to be aired at primetime.
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  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    Wow.
    Is this the Fred Guiliomney show or W-H-A-T?

    Ron Paul got a whopping ONE question so far.
    He got to rant about the Federal Reserve, to which, suprising he got APPLAUSE and not boos.

    WOW!

    :D

    BTW,
    who is this HUNTER guy?
    He seems pretty sharp, too.
    And i love the pin stripe.

    ;)
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  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    RE: Constitutionality of preemptive strikes in IRAN.

    FUCK YEAH RON.
    YOU TELL 'EM.
    GET SOME APPLAUSE!

    WOOT!
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  • YoyoyoYoyoyo Posts: 310
    Need play by play. No MSNBC
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  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    Mestophar wrote:
    Need play by play. No MSNBC

    Guiliani, Romney & Brownback like to hype how great America is. They seem to think blowing smoke up our ass will keep us complacent. They all babble about ethanol and how important it could be. (are they stupid? ethanol is an energy sink!) ... in general i think they are fundamentaly dishonest ... though at least Guiliani has really done some good things for New York as a leader, and at least acknowledges the constitution in regards to line-item veto ... Brownback strikes me as a total shmuck, and Romney seems to think he is the shit.

    Tancredo, McCain, and Thompson all appear to be moderately genuine, but probably a bit confused. Of the three I think Thompson is actually the most grounded in reality. McCain seems to pander more and to placate the primary interest in whatever subject he is being asked about. Tancredo i don't even really know about.

    Paul, Hunter, and Huckabee are the ones i actually trust the most.
    Unfortunately they are also the ones getting nearly zero time to answer questions. They don't all agree with eachother, but they seem to be more principled, and they seem to be the ones most willing to acknowledge the hard truths facing america without blowing this "happy sappy" bullshit up our asses. They may also be the least qualified to run a strong presidency, however. Though i do love their stances ... particuarly Dr. Paul -- come on ... get rid of the CIA, IRS, and Federal Reserve ... FUCK YEAH!

    ;)
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  • YoyoyoYoyoyo Posts: 310
    Mainstream media...being blatantly unfair to "second tier" nominees? I would have never guessed it!
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  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    I watched the first hour...and F. Thompson looked horrible...he seemed unprepared and unconvincing...
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Ron Paul is the only man on that stage with any intelligence, passion, and truthfullness in him.

    the rest of these guys make me fucking sick... talking about progress in iraq, how we had to go, how the president could order strikes against iran without congressional approval... if these are leaders of our country we are fucked. they are all liars, cons, cheats, and have sold out to elite intertests and the war machine.

    i loved when ron paul freaked out about the iran question. he is the only guy on that side that understands anything. of course you have to have congressional approval. i know that, you know that, and so does he. apparently they dont, or think it is "quaint" and out dated. no wonder we now have more of a dictator then president, they have completely lost their fucking minds. romney saying "you'd have to talk to the lawyers"... what a crock of shit...you talk to CONGRESS and the AMERICAN PEOPLE to get authorization for war... they all just continued to fear monger and blow smoke...while ron paul pointed out that iran is no fucking threat to us, to think different is just a fucking joke. and i LOVE how he pointed out that they were all spewing WAR PROPAGANDA, "preparing the american public for war with iran"

    at least one politician on that side has balls, brains, and a conscious
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    my2hands wrote:
    Ron Paul is the only man on that stage with any intelligence, passion, and truthfullness in him.

    the rest of these guys make me fucking sick... talking about progress in iraq, how we had to go, how the president could order strikes against iran without congressional approval... if these are leaders of our country we are fucked. they are all liars, cons, cheats, and have sold out to elite intertests and the war machine.

    i loved when ron paul freaked out about the iran question. he is the only guy on that side that understands anything. of course you have to have congressional approval. i know that, you know that, and so does he. apparently they dont, or think it is "quaint" and out dated. no wonder we now have more of a dictator then president, they have completely lost their fucking minds. romney saying "you'd have to talk to the lawyers"... what a crock of shit...you talk to CONGRESS and the AMERICAN PEOPLE to get authorization for war... they all just continued to fear monger and blow smoke...while ron paul pointed out that iran is no fucking threat to us, to think different is just a fucking joke. and i LOVE how he pointed out that they were all spewing WAR PROPAGANDA, "preparing the american public for war with iran"

    at least one politician on that side has balls, brains, and a conscious
    their just pandering to the ignorant red blooded american.....and they want war..they want to kill. It is scary and very sad. Course blood and war is good for the economy..and good for the news. On seperate note Fox should have nothing with the word news on their programming..they have none. CCN is seems to have really shifted to the right...again not news more fox crap...anyone else notice this? Maybe their trying to get some right wing folks from fox give them some competition.....hell its almost 50 % of the US population.
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  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    the republicans still around?
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    Guiliani, Romney & Brownback like to hype how great America is. They seem to think blowing smoke up our ass will keep us complacent. They all babble about ethanol and how important it could be. (are they stupid? ethanol is an energy sink!) ... in general i think they are fundamentaly dishonest ... though at least Guiliani has really done some good things for New York as a leader, and at least acknowledges the constitution in regards to line-item veto ... Brownback strikes me as a total shmuck, and Romney seems to think he is the shit.

    Tancredo, McCain, and Thompson all appear to be moderately genuine, but probably a bit confused. Of the three I think Thompson is actually the most grounded in reality. McCain seems to pander more and to placate the primary interest in whatever subject he is being asked about. Tancredo i don't even really know about.

    Paul, Hunter, and Huckabee are the ones i actually trust the most.
    Unfortunately they are also the ones getting nearly zero time to answer questions. They don't all agree with eachother, but they seem to be more principled, and they seem to be the ones most willing to acknowledge the hard truths facing america without blowing this "happy sappy" bullshit up our asses. They may also be the least qualified to run a strong presidency, however. Though i do love their stances ... particuarly Dr. Paul -- come on ... get rid of the CIA, IRS, and Federal Reserve ... FUCK YEAH!

    ;)
    Huckabee's an idiot...and very dangerous..you think W was bad on church and state.....elect this guy...we'd be in for a real treat....course Fred's not much better. Guiliani and McCain may be okay...they realize the hate drivin extreme religious right are bunch of loons...they're just pandering to them.
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  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    you guys think the republicans have a chance to win the presidency?
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    callen wrote:
    Huckabee's an idiot...and very dangerous..you think W was bad on church and state.....elect this guy...we'd be in for a real treat....course Fred's not much better. Guiliani and McCain may be okay...they realize the hate drivin extreme religious right are bunch of loons...they're just pandering to them.

    What he/she said.

    Huckabee is the religious conservative candidate.


    Mac: don't underestimate the stupidity of democrat campaign strategy.
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    macgyver06 wrote:
    you guys think the republicans have a chance to win the presidency?
    really good question....we're charting into new territory...if either Clinton or Obama get Dem nomination...who knows how the american people will act.
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  • Uncle LeoUncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    macgyver06 wrote:
    you guys think the republicans have a chance to win the presidency?

    I don't think the democrats do. The republican nomination decides it.
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  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    MrSmith wrote:
    What he/she said.

    Huckabee is the religious conservative candidate.


    Mac: don't underestimate the stupidity of democrat campaign strategy.

    I thought Senator Brownback was the chosen one for the religious right.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    ledvedderman wrote:
    I thought Senator Brownback was the chosen one for the religious right.

    he is, which is why he would never win the nomination.
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  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    callen wrote:
    Huckabee's an idiot...and very dangerous..you think W was bad on church and state.....elect this guy...we'd be in for a real treat....course Fred's not much better. Guiliani and McCain may be okay...they realize the hate drivin extreme religious right are bunch of loons...they're just pandering to them.

    Wow.
    Just goes to show, you can't let one debate serve as a benchmark.
    Going off last night i thought he was one of the more articulate and relevant speakers.

    He must have been the wolf in sheeps clothing last night, because you didn't hear ANY of what you mentioned in his viewpoints at this debate. Of course, the topic was economics, so maybe thats why.

    Of course, we all know who my boy is.
    The man who got ONE lightning round question, "would you support the republican nominee in 2008" ... WTF? WHAT A FUCKING JOKE!

    ;)
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  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    In the debate ...
    where he belongs ...
    the system doesn't like
    RON PAUL
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  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    Wow.
    Just goes to show, you can't let one debate serve as a benchmark.
    Going off last night i thought he was one of the more articulate and relevant speakers.

    He must have been the wolf in sheeps clothing last night, because you didn't hear ANY of what you mentioned in his viewpoints at this debate. Of course, the topic was economics, so maybe thats why.

    Of course, we all know who my boy is.
    The man who got ONE lightning round question, "would you support the republican nominee in 2008" ... WTF? WHAT A FUCKING JOKE!

    ;)
    Brownback is worse regarding extremist right views and would love to turn us into a theocratic country.

    ....but Huckabee's still an evil richard. .....he uses this in his stump speeches..."its harder for Americans to board a flight in one of our cities than it is for an illegal to come to this country...". I mean I travel a bit...even right after 9/11 and sure can't be worse than paying someone cash and risking your life... to come to a foreing country with a foreign language with no rights.......hence Huckabee's got no credibility...none.

    Just another politician playing towards the ignorance and hatred of the righteous American people.
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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    Huckabee looks too much like Nixon to ever win. Come on, you know this is just a popularity contest. Mitt has got the looks, baby. He's a shoe in.
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