WTF!?! No Conspiracy Here ???

DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
edited September 2007 in A Moving Train
UH !?!
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2007/09/12/king.mystery.plane.CNN

I've never heard of this shit!
The government denies this is a government plane.
THEN WHAT KIND'VE OF PLANE WAS IT !?!

You say you never even investigated or looked at the evidence,
but then in the next breath you say "you saw absolutely no evidence of that" ... meaning, you didn't look at it, but you somehow know it's not part of a conspiracy?

WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT PLANE?

Come on.
I want answers.
The government denies it was a government plane?

HUH?
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    appears to be a top secret e-4e command post plane. what seems to be your issue ?


    E-4B National Airborne Operations Center

    The E-4B serves as the National Airborne Operations Center (NAOC) for the National Command Authorities. In case of national emergency or destruction of ground command control centers, the aircraft provides a modern, highly survivable, command, control and communications center to direct U.S. forces, execute emergency war orders and coordinate actions by civil authorities. There are only four E-4B aircraft in the Air Force inventory, with one constantly on alert.

    The E-4B National Airborne Operations Center supports the National Command Authority (NCA) and the Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff (CJCS). Other responsibilities include a worldwide, survivable enduring node of the National Military Command System (NMCS) for the purpose of exercising national security responsibilities throughout the full spectrum. of conflict.

    Offutt AFB, NE serves as the ACC E-4B Main Operating Base (MOB). Offutt AFB provides full organizational level maintenance with limited intermediate level maintenance support. Higher headquarters and training missions are flown from Offutt.
  • DeLukinDeLukin Posts: 2,757
    The government would deny the existance of the plane if it's purpose was top secret. And if one of the top secret purposes of the plane was to keep things going in the event of a catastrophe, wouldn't it make sense that it would be in the air on 9/11?

    Mystery solved. Move along, no conspiracy here...
    I smile, but who am I kidding...
  • DeLukin wrote:
    The government would deny the existance of the plane if it's purpose was top secret. And if one of the top secret purposes of the plane was to keep things going in the event of a catastrophe, wouldn't it make sense that it would be in the air on 9/11?

    Mystery solved. Move along, no conspiracy here...
    EXACTLY!

    It is a top secret plane designed to keep the government running in case of an attack, which happened. Had the rest of Washington blown up, our country wouldn't be in chaos, thanks to the top secret plane.

    Attacks happened, plane took off and secretly flew around. Makes sense. Not a conspiracy.
  • DeLukin wrote:
    The government would deny the existance of the plane if it's purpose was top secret. And if one of the top secret purposes of the plane was to keep things going in the event of a catastrophe, wouldn't it make sense that it would be in the air on 9/11?

    Mystery solved. Move along, no conspiracy here...


    but why could they get that thing in the air and not an F-18 or two?
    ...and it it was just a precautionary measure to ensure that things kept moving along during a catastrophe, why not admit it to stop the conspiracies?

    they say in the video that it was never raised as a valid concern during the commission report. wtf....a plane flying over the whitehouse during the attacks wasn't a concern?
  • If it really was a TOP Secret plane, CNN wouldn't have told you it was an "E4-B", they would have said it was likely some sort of TOP SECRET plane, which we can not discuss on camera.

    You can't have something top secret, and then blurt out its specifications, and what it does, and share a PICTURE of it all on camera.

    That is BULLSHIT.

    Sorry.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    If it really was a TOP Secret plane, CNN wouldn't have told you it was an "E4-B", they would have said it was likely some sort of TOP SECRET plane, which we can not discuss on camera.

    You can't have something top secret, and then blurt out its specifications, and what it does, and share a PICTURE of it all on camera.

    That is BULLSHIT.

    Sorry.

    ok dude sorry its not "top" secret. but its a sensitive matter that and the use of this plane doesnt seem to be openly discussed. again, what is the issue you have?


    regardless, the media always talk about "top secret" stuff. search your friend youtube, you will find plenty
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    ok dude sorry its not "top" secret. but its a sensitive matter that and the use of this plane doesnt seem to be openly discussed. again, what is the issue you have?

    I don't have an issue.
    Just curious why they got a 747 dressed in white over the area within minutes of the attack, but couldn't get jet fighters there to save their lives.

    deny its existence. refuse to investigate it for the official report, and then deny it some more when conspiracys start arising.

    What the fuck sense does it make for the government to say "It wasn't a government plane" ... oh yeah ... so what, the terrorists had a spy plane over washington too? !?!

    honestly, i really don't have an issue.
    i just went to CNN.com to find some information out about the russian government collapse thing ... which by the way, i could find no mention of ... but i did see this at the top of the HOME PAGE!

    SO i posted it.
    ;)
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    you seem to think there is a conspiracy. no?
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    you seem to think there is a conspiracy. no?

    i've learned enough about "my" government to distrust them on the face of things, yes.

    do i think they took the towers down with explosives? no.

    do i think certain members of the government had great knowledge of the events that were about to proceed and were complicit in ensuring that said events did take place? absolutely.

    Their plans admitedly hinged on it, they had repeated and imminent foreknowledge, no action was taken (imho, deliberate), action by subordinates were hindered and derailed (deliberate), and the events were awash in confusion by preplanned training missions which usualy are flown anually in a different month, but for some reason were pushed back until september (deliberate!) [see London Bombing simultaneous exercise]

    who was "known" to be complicit in Kennedy's assassination? The VP (LBJ), members of the SS, JEH, the FBI Director, and possibly the CIA.

    Ok. The Vice President and Intelligence.
    Who is alleged to be complicit in 911?
    Whoa ... i'll be damned if it isn't Dick Cheney and the CIA.
    ;)


    EDIT: OH SHIT! I forgot the biggest one of them all ... BIG OIL.
    LBJ's mistress says that Johnson told her it was the "Texas Fat Cats and the CIA" or as she said "The Big Oil Men" ... Bush\Cheney\Condoleeza = the sleazy oilmen!
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  • but why could they get that thing in the air and not an F-18 or two?
    ...and it it was just a precautionary measure to ensure that things kept moving along during a catastrophe, why not admit it to stop the conspiracies?

    they say in the video that it was never raised as a valid concern during the commission report. wtf....a plane flying over the whitehouse during the attacks wasn't a concern?

    Of course it wasnt concerned because it was obviously a US plane. They said right in the video that it was designed to keep the gov't going in an emergency - how else would you describe 9/11? And the US never admits to any thing if it was designed to be top secret even if anyone knows it exists. Same reason they denied the existence of the SR71 and U2 spy planes for almost 3 decades even tho people knew they existed. Hell they even told lockheed mechanics not to speak about such planes.

    Someone else mentioned if it was that easy to get this plane up then wy not some F 18s - whats more important in your opinion - going after a plane that has already crashed or making sure the central core of the US gov't rmains operational at all costs. I think thats a pretty easy question.
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  • sorry for the no link, but they interviewed the pilot of that plane. it was a few years ago. he was already in the air and he was asked to fly over and assess the damage.
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    sorry for the no link, but they interviewed the pilot of that plane. it was a few years ago. he was already in the air and he was asked to fly over and assess the damage.

    it sure did look alot like that secret plane though.
  • sorry for the no link, but they interviewed the pilot of that plane. it was a few years ago. he was already in the air and he was asked to fly over and assess the damage.

    i have to call bullshit on that, unless you mean it was the pilot of an E4-B which is quite "obviously" what that plane was, going by the big bubble above the nose and the markings.

    either way.
    nothing major.

    just ridiculous the government won't even admit to having a control plane in the air with all the fucking conspiracies going around.

    c'mon.

    you gotta put an end to SOMETHING,
    unless they ENJOY the conspiracy theories.

    ;)
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    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    i've learned enough about "my" government to distrust them on the face of things, yes.

    do i think they took the towers down with explosives? no.

    do i think certain members of the government had great knowledge of the events that were about to proceed and were complicit in ensuring that said events did take place? absolutely.

    Their plans admitedly hinged on it, they had repeated and imminent foreknowledge, no action was taken (imho, deliberate), action by subordinates were hindered and derailed (deliberate), and the events were awash in confusion by preplanned training missions which usualy are flown anually in a different month, but for some reason were pushed back until september (deliberate!) [see London Bombing simultaneous exercise]

    who was "known" to be complicit in Kennedy's assassination? The VP (LBJ), members of the SS, JEH, the FBI Director, and possibly the CIA.

    Ok. The Vice President and Intelligence.
    Who is alleged to be complicit in 911?
    Whoa ... i'll be damned if it isn't Dick Cheney and the CIA.
    ;)


    EDIT: OH SHIT! I forgot the biggest one of them all ... BIG OIL.
    LBJ's mistress says that Johnson told her it was the "Texas Fat Cats and the CIA" or as she said "The Big Oil Men" ... Bush\Cheney\Condoleeza = the sleazy oilmen!

    as much as I think you are a bit loony ;) I do respect what you say here. while I dont agree with it (about 9/11 stuff, the jfk stuff I havent looked at), I do respect your right to question the government and keep the heat on them. we are the people.
  • Of course it wasnt concerned because it was obviously a US plane. They said right in the video that it was designed to keep the gov't going in an emergency - how else would you describe 9/11? And the US never admits to any thing if it was designed to be top secret even if anyone knows it exists. Same reason they denied the existence of the SR71 and U2 spy planes for almost 3 decades even tho people knew they existed. Hell they even told lockheed mechanics not to speak about such planes.

    Someone else mentioned if it was that easy to get this plane up then wy not some F 18s - whats more important in your opinion - going after a plane that has already crashed or making sure the central core of the US gov't rmains operational at all costs. I think thats a pretty easy question.

    you don't think the US government is capable of getting a 747 AND a couple F18s in the air at the same time? whoa...hold on with those F18's, let's make sure this big boy gets up there first...it's not a matter of priority. But it is an odd observation. That might be all, just sayin.

    And ya...like Drifting said...even if it is top secret (obviously not THAT secret if they had video footage from inside it in the posted video)....why not just admit it and be done with the conspiracy theories? Maybe that's part of the conspiracy...keeping everyone guessing at stupid shite like this as a distraction :D .....OR maybe Dick C was ridin shotgun, marvelling at his handywork ....who knows.
  • you don't think the US government is capable of getting a 747 AND a couple F18s in the air at the same time? whoa...hold on with those F18's, let's make sure this big boy gets up there first...it's not a matter of priority. But it is an odd observation. That might be all, just sayin.

    And ya...like Drifting said...even if it is top secret (obviously not THAT secret if they had video footage from inside it in the posted video)....why not just admit it and be done with the conspiracy theories? Maybe that's part of the conspiracy...keeping everyone guessing at stupid shite like this as a distraction :D .....OR maybe Dick C was ridin shotgun, marvelling at his handywork ....who knows.

    as ive said the US gov't is extremely secretive with their aircraft even when people know they exist. As i said the engineers responsible for building the SR71 were told not to speak of anything to anyone including their family for about 2 and a half decades after its creation. Why does the gov't care if people know about them - i dont know but they have their reasons. My point was just that at that moment when they were unsure if something was on its way to the white house, the number one priority was making sure that the gov't would be operational no matter what went down.
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