Obama Confirms: US Sanctions Must Pass, Or Else Israel Will Strike Iran

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Obama to House Dems: If Sanctions Fail, Israel Will Likely Strike Iran
Jake Tapper
ABC News
July 30, 2008

July 30, 2008 9:30 AM

Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, met with House Democrats yesterday, talking about his trip abroad and his observations.




Obama told the caucus, according to an attendee, “Nobody said this to me directly but I get the feeling from my talks that if the sanctions don’t work Israel is going to strike Iran.” Others in the room recall this as well.

The notion that Israel is preparing for such an action against Iran’s myriad nuclear facilities is not new, with conjecture heating up in May after an Israeli military exercise featuring 150 aircraft flying almost a thousand miles over the Mediterranean Sea in what was seen as a dress rehearsal for an air strike. Now that the Bush administration is engaged in diplomatic efforts with Iran, many Israeli officials are worried the US is getting soft on Iran, prompting Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak to travel to the US this week to meet with Defense Secretary Robert Gates, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, and National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley. Barak’s office released a statement saying “a policy that consists of keeping all options on the table must be maintained.”
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Here is a good question for you my buddy drifting.. and i know you wont dodge it like some of your cronies on here :cool:

    What is your opinion of the Israeli strike against the Iraqi Nuclear reactor in 1981? good, bad, or indifferent?





    as far as your post goes... it just sounds like Obama is being honest with Congress... were you trying to paint Obama in a bad light on this one? i couldnt tell if you were trying to bash him or just using him and his coments to show that this shit is getting real?
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    my2hands wrote:
    Here is a good question for you my buddy drifting.. and i know you wont dodge it like some of your cronies on here :cool:
    Thats a good one.
  • my2hands wrote:
    Here is a good question for you my buddy drifting.. and i know you wont dodge it like some of your cronies on here :cool:

    What is your opinion of the Israeli strike against the Iraqi Nuclear reactor in 1981? good, bad, or indifferent?





    as far as your post goes... it just sounds like Obama is being honest with Congress... were you trying to paint Obama in a bad light on this one? i couldnt tell if you were trying to bash him or just using him and his coments to show that this shit is getting real?

    What is my opinion on Operation Opera?
    Shit. Well, i was a whopping ONE year old when it happened, so I have no personal first hand opinion on the matter.

    From what i understand it was yet another "premptive strike" that resulted in casualties, and international outrage. Typical.

    I have not been able to find any historical information on what the IAEA had to say about the matter ... what they had reported regarding the facilities operations prior to the Israeli strike ... so i can not assess whether Iraq was in compliance, or what their intentions were.

    I will say that I KNOW that the IAEA has REPEATEDLY acknowledged that Iran is in FULL compliance, and that ANY compliance failures have been the result of NEW or ADDED requests by the IAEA which Iran ALWAYS ends up meeting by the NEXT inspection and report.

    I do not see how it is currently justifiable in ANY way whatsoever for Israel to claim self-defense in destroying an extremely expensive asset of a soverign nation ... an asset that is in FULL COMPLIANCE with international law.

    What is YOUR opinion,
    and why do constantly ask this question referencing an even concerning a DIFFERENT nation and possibly different circumstances? Are you trying to somehow draw a trap?

    What is the point of the question?

    Again,
    Iran is in full compliance.
    What part of that do you not understand?
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    my2hands wrote:
    What is your opinion of the Israeli strike against the Iraqi Nuclear reactor in 1981? good, bad, or indifferent?
    answer my question dude:
    if Iraq were to have done pre-emptive strikes on Israel's nuclear program, would you have supported that too?

    Although comparing Israel's nuclear program to Iran's makes no sense seeing as how Israel didn't sign the NPT, does NOT comply with IAEA (or even left them into the country), and is already in violation of several other humanitarian and war crimes.
  • My2hands likes Bush's idea of pre-emptive war.

    shoot first ask questions later....

    ...brilliant....sounds like coyboy bob shootin up the wild west...

    bend over a little deeper for Israel....ride that zionist cock...

    ahh...ahhh...oooo....mmm...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    hahahahaha... nothing could be further from the truth

    but its ok, there seem to be alot of people around here lately that only see things in black and white


    quick, who remembers Iraq repeatedly firing SCUD missiles into Israel for no reason during the first Gulf war?

    i do
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    i have actively protested this Iraq war, personaly and financially...


    what have you done besides type on your keyboard?
  • my2hands wrote:
    i have actively protested this Iraq war, personaly and financially...


    what have you done besides type on your keyboard?

    As have I at every avenue available, in another country as well.

    but is it a personal thing now?

    When did that all happen?

    I thought the issue was what it was regardless of personal details and penis size?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • rocketmanrocketman Posts: 68
    Obama to House Dems: If Sanctions Fail, Israel Will Likely Strike Iran
    Jake Tapper
    ABC News
    July 30, 2008

    July 30, 2008 9:30 AM

    Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, met with House Democrats yesterday, talking about his trip abroad and his observations.




    Obama told the caucus, according to an attendee, “Nobody said this to me directly but I get the feeling from my talks that if the sanctions don’t work Israel is going to strike Iran.” Others in the room recall this as well.

    The notion that Israel is preparing for such an action against Iran’s myriad nuclear facilities is not new, with conjecture heating up in May after an Israeli military exercise featuring 150 aircraft flying almost a thousand miles over the Mediterranean Sea in what was seen as a dress rehearsal for an air strike. Now that the Bush administration is engaged in diplomatic efforts with Iran, many Israeli officials are worried the US is getting soft on Iran, prompting Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak to travel to the US this week to meet with Defense Secretary Robert Gates, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, and National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley. Barak’s office released a statement saying “a policy that consists of keeping all options on the table must be maintained.”
    BS
  • rocketmanrocketman Posts: 68
    What is my opinion on Operation Opera?
    Shit. Well, i was a whopping ONE year old when it happened, so I have no personal first hand opinion on the matter.

    From what i understand it was yet another "premptive strike" that resulted in casualties, and international outrage. Typical.

    I have not been able to find any historical information on what the IAEA had to say about the matter ... what they had reported regarding the facilities operations prior to the Israeli strike ... so i can not assess whether Iraq was in compliance, or what their intentions were.

    I will say that I KNOW that the IAEA has REPEATEDLY acknowledged that Iran is in FULL compliance, and that ANY compliance failures have been the result of NEW or ADDED requests by the IAEA which Iran ALWAYS ends up meeting by the NEXT inspection and report.

    I do not see how it is currently justifiable in ANY way whatsoever for Israel to claim self-defense in destroying an extremely expensive asset of a soverign nation ... an asset that is in FULL COMPLIANCE with international law.

    What is YOUR opinion,
    and why do constantly ask this question referencing an even concerning a DIFFERENT nation and possibly different circumstances? Are you trying to somehow draw a trap?

    What is the point of the question?

    Again,
    Iran is in full compliance.
    What part of that do you not understand?

    WOW so a nuclear armed Saddam pre-Iran invasion and pre-Kuwait invasion would have been a good thing? Maybe you shouldn't weigh in on these subjects since you were, uh, one.
  • my2hands wrote:
    hahahahaha... nothing could be further from the truth

    but its ok, there seem to be alot of people around here lately that only see things in black and white


    quick, who remembers Iraq repeatedly firing SCUD missiles into Israel for no reason during the first Gulf war?

    i do

    hmm first Gulf war....Were they (Iraq) being attacked, or is this out of the blue one day Iraq starts flinging scuds around?

    there's a a pretty big difference.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    my2hands wrote:


    quick, who remembers Iraq repeatedly firing SCUD missiles into Israel for no reason during the first Gulf war?

    i do

    i remember that. Also, the point remains that all Obama was doing was relaying an observation.
    "WARMONGER"!! Sheesh.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • rocketmanrocketman Posts: 68
    My2hands likes Bush's idea of pre-emptive war.

    shoot first ask questions later....

    ...brilliant....sounds like coyboy bob shootin up the wild west...

    bend over a little deeper for Israel....ride that zionist cock...

    ahh...ahhh...oooo....mmm...
    You are the most offensive person on this board. Im shocked they allow you to get away with comments like this
  • rocketmanrocketman Posts: 68
    cornnifer wrote:
    i remember that. Also, the point remains that all Obama was doing was relaying an observation.
    "WARMONGER"!! Sheesh.
    Corn - if you hadn't noticed there are several people on this board, also on this post who are just fine with missiles falling on civillians so long as those civillians are jews.
  • rocketman wrote:
    You are the most offensive person on this board. Im shocked they allow you to get away with comments like this

    Oh please...

    so I said cock...big deal...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    rocketman wrote:
    Corn - if you hadn't noticed there are several people on this board, also on this post who are just fine with missiles falling on civillians so long as those civillians are jews.
    No one said that. Thats offensive.
  • rocketman wrote:
    Corn - if you hadn't noticed there are several people on this board, also on this post who are just fine with missiles falling on civillians so long as those civillians are jews.
    Please, do find some quotes to that effect.
    Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
  • Nevermind wrote:
    No one said that. Thats offensive.


    agree... that is offensive...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    hmm first Gulf war....Were they (Iraq) being attacked, or is this out of the blue one day Iraq starts flinging scuds around?

    there's a a pretty big difference.

    Israel attacked Iraq in the Gulf War 1? what did Israel have to do with the Gulf War?

    do you remember the first gulf war?

    or maybe you thought it was OK for Iraq to randomly fire missiles into a country that didnt attack them after Iraq preemtpively invaded Kuwait? what if they were nuclear armed, think that would have been pretty?
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    go ahead roland, tell them how the Holocaust was exagerated...
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    my2hands wrote:
    go ahead roland, tell them how the Holocaust was exagerated...
    Tell us about the Roman Catholic Church's support for the fuhrer also.
  • my2hands wrote:
    Israel attacked Iraq in the Gulf War 1? what did Israel have to do with the Gulf War?

    do you remember the first gulf war?

    or maybe you thought it was OK for Iraq to randomly fire missiles into a country that didnt attack them after Iraq preemtpively invaded Kuwait? what if they were nuclear armed, think that would have been pretty?


    Was Iraq being invaded at the time was the question

    Yes or no?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • rocketmanrocketman Posts: 68
    my2hands wrote:
    go ahead roland, tell them how the Holocaust was exagerated...
    Wait? What Holocaust? Didnt Iran already tell us there wasnt one?
  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    Please, do find some quotes to that effect.
    There aren't any direct ones, perhaps, but talk of people riding "zionist cock" seems fairly anti-semitic to me. Just sayin'.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • rocketmanrocketman Posts: 68
    Nevermind wrote:
    Tell us about the Roman Catholic Church's support for the fuhrer also.
    I can tell you a bit about that. And what about the Grand Mufti or Jerusalem assisting Hitler with the Holocaust...that didn't happen. Bigotry is alive and well on the Pearl Jam board it appears.
  • my2hands wrote:
    go ahead roland, tell them how the Holocaust was exagerated...

    Heve you bothered (at all) to look into the revisionist findings?

    nope....just going on foggy memory from mainstream TV I see.

    Hiding behind the holocaust...look into that.

    but I'm an anti-semite all that cliche bs...

    yeap...

    nice try.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    Was Iraq being invaded at the time was the question

    Yes or no?
    A: Not by Israel.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • rocketmanrocketman Posts: 68
    Oh please...

    so I said cock...big deal...
    No you said zionist cock. In 1939 the term would have been Jew cock. Today biggots use the word Zionist. And apparently get away with it. At least here.
  • cornnifer wrote:
    There aren't any direct ones, perhaps, but talk of people riding "zionist cock" seems fairly anti-semitic to me. Just sayin'.
    Fairly big difference between that and "Woo! Let's bomb us some Jews, baby!" though. Just sayin'. ;)
    Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Was Iraq being invaded at the time was the question

    Yes or no?

    NO, they were being driven back into their country AFTER invading Kuwait. Abnd 2nd, they were not invaded by Israel.

    so i am taking from your response that it was ok for Iraq to fire missiles into a country that had nothing to do with the Gulf War. so if America was invaded it would be om for us to fire some missiles into your town? its ok, we all know you blindly hate Israel, its no secret dude. I still like you regardless of your black and white simplistic one way view of the world
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