how are we doing nothing? we are involved in 2 wars. no war is great. but war would be brought upon us if we were attacked again and I wouldnt want a president who will do nothing.
dude seriously, vote gravel!!!! YEA!
its painful arguing and trying to teach you because...
1. yo dont understand concepts and apparently still have false idea on whats actually going on in the middle east
2. you just don't listen....instead you continue your dumbass mannerisms.
and if you dont understand something...you should send a private message...letting visitors to the board know you dont comprehend subjects very well is not wise
should the US not drop the hammer if we are attacked again? I dont want a president that will do nothing if we area attacked
yeah, I agree 100%. how soon we al forget the fervor we had after 9/11, the patriotism, the courage to claim our rights to not be intimidated by terrorists, etc. now, we have all gotten fat, stupid and impatient because the war didn't end in the thirty minute sitcom time that most people can muster the attention for and nothing more.
Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
its painful arguing and trying to teach you because...
1. yo dont understand concepts and apparently still have false idea on whats actually going on in the middle east
2. you just don't listen....instead you continue your dumbass mannerisms.
and if you dont understand something...you should send a private message...letting visitors to the board know you dont comprehend subjects very well is not wise
who doesn't know what they are talking about? you should stop watching Michael Moore movies and check out the real news......
Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
should the US not drop the hammer if we are attacked again? I dont want a president that will do nothing if we area attacked
Regardless of who is elected, the US has no choice in the matter, it's all or nothing until the money runs out, or one side is eradicated. The "other side" is not contained to the middle east.
It's almost certainly going to get a a lot worse than it is now. The term spent into oblivion comes to mind. It's going to be an extremely difficult situation to resolve. It may never resolve short of full scale nuclear war, as more countries will get sucked in.
There really is no winning...just losing on both sides.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
Regardless of who is elected, the US has no choice in the matter, it's all or nothing until the money runs out, or one side is eradicated. The "other side" is not contained to the middle east.
It's almost certainly going to get a a lot worse than it is now. The term spent into oblivion comes to mind. It's going to be an extremely difficult situation to resolve. It may never resolve short of full scale nuclear war, as more countries will get sucked in.
There really is no winning...just losing on both sides.
well not all of us have such a grim outlook on life.
well not all of us have such a grim outlook on life.
I'm a realist. Who do you see backing down?
How do you see this situation succeeding is probably a better question.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
How do you see this situation succeeding is probably a better question.
you are far from a realist. you are the one who believes the US government planted bombs in WTC and the media digitally enhanced our TVs to make us believe planes hit the buildings. your a joke.
my optimistic outlook.....Israel and palestine come to a land agreement, Iraq becomes peaceful and stable. Iran's nutty president leaves office because of 20% inflation in the country. US and Iran get new presidents who may be civil with one another. islamic extremism is isolated in the mountains of pakistan. something like that.
you are far from a realist. you are the one who believes the US government planted bombs in WTC and the media digitally enhanced our TVs to make us believe planes hit the buildings. your a joke.
my optimistic outlook.....Israel and palestine come to a land agreement, Iraq becomes peaceful and stable. Iran's nutty president leaves office because of 20% inflation in the country. US and Iran get new presidents who may be civil with one another. islamic extremism is isolated in the mountains of pakistan. something like that.
I questioned 9/11. Actually....I still do. I don't proclaim it's my mantra. I posted one...(one)...(that's one)...thread questioning a video of airplanes hoping to have a somewhat reasonable discussion about it, and you went f-ing apeshit over it to the point you're still bringing it up like half a year later. I find it interesting you can dish out insults but when you detect even the slightest nuance of one, you short circuit and switch into into attack mode.
I think when we see wars carrying out in a region for hundreds of years, and decide to get tits deep into the mix, it's not going to be fixed without considerable amounts of consequence and time, I think that is what one could call a realistic interpretation of the situation.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
yeah, I agree 100%. how soon we al forget the fervor we had after 9/11, the patriotism, the courage to claim our rights to not be intimidated by terrorists, etc. now, we have all gotten fat, stupid and impatient because the war didn't end in the thirty minute sitcom time that most people can muster the attention for and nothing more.
No. Many knew the war was fucking retarded from the beginning. Unfortunately, TOO MANY were fat, stupid and impatient with false patriotism flowing in their veins and they wanted to go blow somebody up. Too bad it was the wrong people.
No. Many new the war was fucking retarded from the beginning. Unfortunately, TOO MANY were fat, stupid and impatient with false patriotism flowing in their veins and they wanted to go blow somebody up. Too bad it was the wrong people.
hindsight is 20/20........
Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
I questioned 9/11. Actually....I still do. I don't proclaim it's my mantra. I posted one...(one)...(that's one)...thread questioning a video of airplanes hoping to have a somewhat reasonable discussion about it,
hoping to have a discussion about a youtube video claiming NO PLANES hit the buildings? what type of discussion were you hoping for? the fact that you even gave it a second of credibility is when you lost all of yours.
hoping to have a discussion about a youtube video claiming NO PLANES hit the buildings? what type of discussion were you hoping for? the fact that you even gave it a second of credibility is when you lost all of yours.
Perhaps. There were some aspects that were worth discussing, not dealing with the planes themselves.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
9/11 is a diversion whoever committed the crime. Like the JFK assassination, millions of people are wasting valuable time researching these issues when that energy could be better spent elsewhere...
Whoever was behind 9/11 doesn't really matter. What we need to focus on is how they have and how they are dealing with the situation.
Guiliani is just using it as a reason to elect him, like being mayor when the city was attacked has anything to do a presidency. If anything it should be a negative...you know, well they bombed the city when he was in charge, maybe we shouldn't vote for this guy.
No. Many knew the war was fucking retarded from the beginning. Unfortunately, TOO MANY were fat, stupid and impatient with false patriotism flowing in their veins and they wanted to go blow somebody up. Too bad it was the wrong people.
really? who should we have blown up then?
or if the war was not the correct answer to the attack, perhaps closing our borders and not letting anyone from the middle east where our attackers were originally from come in here would be the right one?
racial profiling is a bad thing but the reality of life is that trust is earned and rights are null and void if they are clearly abused. like freedom of speech has just ran away with the whole notion and now the sensible people with the brains have to be quiet and aviod appearing "small minded" to their liberal pansy ass neighbors...........please....put a sock in it............
Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
or if the war was not the correct answer to the attack, perhaps closing our borders and not letting anyone from the middle east where our attackers were originally from come in here would be the right one?
racial profiling is a bad thing but the reality of life is that trust is earned and rights are null and void if they are clearly abused. like freedom of speech has just ran away with the whole notion and now the sensible people with the brains have to be quiet and aviod appearing "small minded" to their liberal pansy ass neighbors...........please....put a sock in it............
Well the facts are that there was not one hi-jacker involved in 9/11 from Iraq!!! The majority were in fact from Saudi Arabia. And your precious God loving Mr. Bush gave up on his chance to find Bin Laden by wasting resourses in Iraq. Invading Iraq was the worst foreign policy decision in American history!!! And the only Idiot that could possibly top that would be Rudy G.
Well the facts are that there was not one hi-jacker involved in 9/11 from Iraq!!! The majority were in fact from Saudi Arabia. And your precious God loving Mr. Bush gave up on his chance to find Bin Laden by wasting resourses in Iraq. Invading Iraq was the worst foreign policy decision in American history!!! And the only Idiot that could possibly top that would be Rudy G.
ok, well when YOU run for president, and could do a better job, let us all know. I have decided long ago not to criticize anyone that is doing a job I cannot do.......we are ALL great backseat drivers...........
Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
ok, well when YOU run for president, and could do a better job, let us all know. I have decided long ago not to criticize anyone that is doing a job I cannot do.......we are ALL great backseat drivers...........
ok, well when YOU run for president, and could do a better job, let us all know. I have decided long ago not to criticize anyone that is doing a job I cannot do.......we are ALL great backseat drivers...........
Well in fact I do think I could do a better job than Bush. But at the age of 31 that's not going to happen. To sit back and not be critical of the government that is supposed to work in our interest would be unpatriotic. P.S. a monkey spinning a wheel of fortune could do a better job than Bush.
Believe me you could've done a better job. Unless you really think that little of yourself.
no, I don't and it's not about having a "blind" devosion to him and thinking that he is going to have all the right answers all of the time.
My 17 year old son , who mind you is bombarded with very liberal teachers and advisors with little moral fabric or backbone. So he sees both worlds; the people who disrespect him in public, to students mind you, how very weak of an adult; , he asks me "why do you like the President so much?" My answer was that I like that he has his convictions, which most of which I agree with and he is not concerned with his popularity but instead the state of the country and he is guided by the HolySpirit as to what to do; he's a very prayerful man and I trust that he has the backbone to mean what he says as well as stand up for our country and let other countries who are now threats or who may be threats that we are not cowards --we will fight for our country as any self respecting country would do. to back down would only allow more invasions that would possibly ruin life as we know and love it.
Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
and he is not concerned with his popularity but instead the state of the country and he is guided by the HolySpirit as to what to do; he's a very prayerful man ...
Bush is a holy man now?
This is just absurdity.
C'mon.
Tell me you don't really invest some great belief in Bush as being a man of serious devotion and faith?
No fucking way!
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Well in fact I do think I could do a better job than Bush. But at the age of 31 that's not going to happen. To sit back and not be critical of the government that is supposed to work in our interest would be unpatriotic. P.S. a monkey spinning a wheel of fortune could do a better job than Bush.
well that's where you and I meet a HUGE gap here...........because I DO think that the president is working along with our government to bring us back to a country that would prefer peace but is not afraid of standing up to war. And no man or monkey can do a better job than Bush, sorry............And where you say sitting back and not being critical as unpatriotic, I see it the other way around. Criticizing the government --or anything for that matter--and not wanting to offer yourself out to help change what you can from the littlest need filled to the most time consuming thing possible is just bitching and when I find myself bitching I try to think of ways I might be of some help to the problem and if I don't know WHAT or HOW I could possibly change things for the better, then I tell the person that but offer my help should she want it. If you truly want to talk about patriotism, then we have to understand that becasue we live in a democracy, we have the freedom to attempt to change the things that get under our skin. Many people have gotten the government to rethink certain things and perhaps some good will come of it. But it has to be done with respect and it needs to stop criticizing and start making it clear that we all are affected by the world and we are here to help as well.
Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
well that's where you and I meet a HUGE gap here...........because I DO think that the president is working along with our government to bring us back to a country that would prefer peace but is not afraid of standing up to war. And no man or monkey can do a better job than Bush, sorry............And where you see sittign back and not being critical as unpatriotic, I see it the other way around. Criticizing the government --or anything for that matter--and not wanting to offer yourself out to help change what you can from the littlest need filled to the most time consuming thing possible is just bitching and when I find myself bitching I try to think of ways I might be of some help to the problem and if I don't know WHAT or HOW I could possibly change things for the better, then I tell the person that but offer my help should she want it.
so we are in Iraq because why?
And yet like 17 hijackers on 911 came from Saudi Arabia.
So how come Bush is over kissing Saudi ass right now, and not threatening them over their state sponsored agression in 2001?
Hint: Both answers are one world, one syllable responses, that start with the letter O.
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Tell me you don't really invest some great belief in Bush as being a man of serious devotion and faith?
No fucking way!
It's not like it's a secret. He found a deep faith as a young man and has found it sustained him through his life. If he is listening for the HolySpirit's convictions and living his life accordingly so, then yeah, i find that a very large trust of which for me can go no deeper.
Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
And yet like 17 hijackers on 911 came from Saudi Arabia.
So how come Bush is over kissing Saudi ass right now, and not threatening them over their state sponsored agression in 2001?
Hint: Both answers are one world, one syllable responses, that start with the letter O.
THAT is the only thing that I would love to send him, a letter about. I have heard that same thing from others. And knowing he is an oil family, you gotta wonder.......because, correct me if I was misinformed (as I know you will) and tell me is it tru that we have enough oil in Alaska and Texas to be able to survive on US oil without needing theirs?
Baby, You Wouldn't Last a Minute on The Creek......
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
well that's where you and I meet a HUGE gap here...........because I DO think that the president is working along with our government to bring us back to a country that would prefer peace but is not afraid of standing up to war. And no man or monkey can do a better job than Bush, sorry............And where you say sitting back and not being critical as unpatriotic, I see it the other way around. Criticizing the government --or anything for that matter--and not wanting to offer yourself out to help change what you can from the littlest need filled to the most time consuming thing possible is just bitching and when I find myself bitching I try to think of ways I might be of some help to the problem and if I don't know WHAT or HOW I could possibly change things for the better, then I tell the person that but offer my help should she want it. If you truly want to talk about patriotism, then we have to understand that becasue we live in a democracy, we have the freedom to attempt to change the things that get under our skin. Many people have gotten the government to rethink certain things and perhaps some good will come of it. But it has to be done with respect and it needs to stop
criticizing and start making it clear that we all are affected by the world and we are here to help as well.
Are you being serious? No man can do a better job than bush right now? Am I reading that right? He is the worst leader of any country or nation in the history of the planet.
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its painful arguing and trying to teach you because...
1. yo dont understand concepts and apparently still have false idea on whats actually going on in the middle east
2. you just don't listen....instead you continue your dumbass mannerisms.
and if you dont understand something...you should send a private message...letting visitors to the board know you dont comprehend subjects very well is not wise
cowardly? how about aggressive? stupid intentions? how about self-serving?
from my window to yours
yeah, I agree 100%. how soon we al forget the fervor we had after 9/11, the patriotism, the courage to claim our rights to not be intimidated by terrorists, etc. now, we have all gotten fat, stupid and impatient because the war didn't end in the thirty minute sitcom time that most people can muster the attention for and nothing more.
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
who doesn't know what they are talking about? you should stop watching Michael Moore movies and check out the real news......
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
Regardless of who is elected, the US has no choice in the matter, it's all or nothing until the money runs out, or one side is eradicated. The "other side" is not contained to the middle east.
It's almost certainly going to get a a lot worse than it is now. The term spent into oblivion comes to mind. It's going to be an extremely difficult situation to resolve. It may never resolve short of full scale nuclear war, as more countries will get sucked in.
There really is no winning...just losing on both sides.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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( o.O)
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well not all of us have such a grim outlook on life.
I'm a realist. Who do you see backing down?
How do you see this situation succeeding is probably a better question.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
you are far from a realist. you are the one who believes the US government planted bombs in WTC and the media digitally enhanced our TVs to make us believe planes hit the buildings. your a joke.
my optimistic outlook.....Israel and palestine come to a land agreement, Iraq becomes peaceful and stable. Iran's nutty president leaves office because of 20% inflation in the country. US and Iran get new presidents who may be civil with one another. islamic extremism is isolated in the mountains of pakistan. something like that.
I questioned 9/11. Actually....I still do. I don't proclaim it's my mantra. I posted one...(one)...(that's one)...thread questioning a video of airplanes hoping to have a somewhat reasonable discussion about it, and you went f-ing apeshit over it to the point you're still bringing it up like half a year later. I find it interesting you can dish out insults but when you detect even the slightest nuance of one, you short circuit and switch into into attack mode.
I think when we see wars carrying out in a region for hundreds of years, and decide to get tits deep into the mix, it's not going to be fixed without considerable amounts of consequence and time, I think that is what one could call a realistic interpretation of the situation.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/giuliani_firefighters_blast_over_911_clean_up.htm
No. Many knew the war was fucking retarded from the beginning. Unfortunately, TOO MANY were fat, stupid and impatient with false patriotism flowing in their veins and they wanted to go blow somebody up. Too bad it was the wrong people.
no, reagan just created one
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hindsight is 20/20........
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
hoping to have a discussion about a youtube video claiming NO PLANES hit the buildings? what type of discussion were you hoping for? the fact that you even gave it a second of credibility is when you lost all of yours.
So was my foresight. The Iraq war was wrong from the beginning.
Perhaps. There were some aspects that were worth discussing, not dealing with the planes themselves.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
(\__/)
( o.O)
(")_(")
Whoever was behind 9/11 doesn't really matter. What we need to focus on is how they have and how they are dealing with the situation.
Guiliani is just using it as a reason to elect him, like being mayor when the city was attacked has anything to do a presidency. If anything it should be a negative...you know, well they bombed the city when he was in charge, maybe we shouldn't vote for this guy.
really? who should we have blown up then?
or if the war was not the correct answer to the attack, perhaps closing our borders and not letting anyone from the middle east where our attackers were originally from come in here would be the right one?
racial profiling is a bad thing but the reality of life is that trust is earned and rights are null and void if they are clearly abused. like freedom of speech has just ran away with the whole notion and now the sensible people with the brains have to be quiet and aviod appearing "small minded" to their liberal pansy ass neighbors...........please....put a sock in it............
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
Well the facts are that there was not one hi-jacker involved in 9/11 from Iraq!!! The majority were in fact from Saudi Arabia. And your precious God loving Mr. Bush gave up on his chance to find Bin Laden by wasting resourses in Iraq. Invading Iraq was the worst foreign policy decision in American history!!! And the only Idiot that could possibly top that would be Rudy G.
ok, well when YOU run for president, and could do a better job, let us all know. I have decided long ago not to criticize anyone that is doing a job I cannot do.......we are ALL great backseat drivers...........
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
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you never criticize the prez?
Believe me you could've done a better job. Unless you really think that little of yourself.
Well in fact I do think I could do a better job than Bush. But at the age of 31 that's not going to happen. To sit back and not be critical of the government that is supposed to work in our interest would be unpatriotic. P.S. a monkey spinning a wheel of fortune could do a better job than Bush.
no, I don't and it's not about having a "blind" devosion to him and thinking that he is going to have all the right answers all of the time.
My 17 year old son , who mind you is bombarded with very liberal teachers and advisors with little moral fabric or backbone. So he sees both worlds; the people who disrespect him in public, to students mind you, how very weak of an adult; , he asks me "why do you like the President so much?" My answer was that I like that he has his convictions, which most of which I agree with and he is not concerned with his popularity but instead the state of the country and he is guided by the HolySpirit as to what to do; he's a very prayerful man and I trust that he has the backbone to mean what he says as well as stand up for our country and let other countries who are now threats or who may be threats that we are not cowards --we will fight for our country as any self respecting country would do. to back down would only allow more invasions that would possibly ruin life as we know and love it.
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
Bush is a holy man now?
This is just absurdity.
C'mon.
Tell me you don't really invest some great belief in Bush as being a man of serious devotion and faith?
No fucking way!
If I opened it now would you not understand?
well that's where you and I meet a HUGE gap here...........because I DO think that the president is working along with our government to bring us back to a country that would prefer peace but is not afraid of standing up to war. And no man or monkey can do a better job than Bush, sorry............And where you say sitting back and not being critical as unpatriotic, I see it the other way around. Criticizing the government --or anything for that matter--and not wanting to offer yourself out to help change what you can from the littlest need filled to the most time consuming thing possible is just bitching and when I find myself bitching I try to think of ways I might be of some help to the problem and if I don't know WHAT or HOW I could possibly change things for the better, then I tell the person that but offer my help should she want it. If you truly want to talk about patriotism, then we have to understand that becasue we live in a democracy, we have the freedom to attempt to change the things that get under our skin. Many people have gotten the government to rethink certain things and perhaps some good will come of it. But it has to be done with respect and it needs to stop criticizing and start making it clear that we all are affected by the world and we are here to help as well.
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
so we are in Iraq because why?
And yet like 17 hijackers on 911 came from Saudi Arabia.
So how come Bush is over kissing Saudi ass right now, and not threatening them over their state sponsored agression in 2001?
Hint: Both answers are one world, one syllable responses, that start with the letter O.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
It's not like it's a secret. He found a deep faith as a young man and has found it sustained him through his life. If he is listening for the HolySpirit's convictions and living his life accordingly so, then yeah, i find that a very large trust of which for me can go no deeper.
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
THAT is the only thing that I would love to send him, a letter about. I have heard that same thing from others. And knowing he is an oil family, you gotta wonder.......because, correct me if I was misinformed (as I know you will) and tell me is it tru that we have enough oil in Alaska and Texas to be able to survive on US oil without needing theirs?
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
Are you being serious? No man can do a better job than bush right now? Am I reading that right? He is the worst leader of any country or nation in the history of the planet.