Ron Paul's Status Update: On Progress, Hope, and Taking on THE Establishment

DriftingByTheStorm

You want a REAL straight talker, 'eh?

I don't wanna hear nay-saying rhetoric.

If you are gonna trash the possibilities,
instead sit back and ask yourself,
did you ever envision Ron Paul beating Giuliani in EVERY state so far ... did you ever even think he could register at greater than 2% on any ballot? How about 7, 8, 9, 10, and 12 percent? How about two second place finishes?

Whether he "makes it" or not ... you can not deny the power of people united in belief of what is true and just.

The fact that it is not a sure-win at this point is evidence ONLY of the overwhelming amount of disinformation and manipulation being pushed on the American people every day of their lives.

Ron Paul is one of FIVE candidates left for the Republican nomination ... one of five left OUT OF TWELVE who ran. He has stomped Giuliani in every state so far, and yet the media STILL talks about the 911 Zero (oops, i meant 'hero') about 100 times more than it mentions Ron Paul.

You can disagree with his position,
or you can be a little cry baby whiner and bitch about his "chances" ...

but if you were true and honest in your assessment, you would see that the man is a true patriot, fighting for real truth, real justice, real hope, and real change ... and doing it in the face of massive apathy, confusion, disillusion, and establishment manipulation. And seeing that, you should be honest enough to at least say, "i appreciate what he is trying to accomplish."

When people like Steve Forbes and Jim Rogers are saying positive things about the man, you know his fiscal aims aren't bullshit ... they are backed by the mouths of some of the most successful business men of our times.

When the US Comptroller General is saying things that 100% back what Ron Paul is saying ... how can you possibly argue "Ron Paul is a fool. He doesn't know what he is talking about. It would be a disaster." ... You have the goddamn Comptroller General telling you disaster is already coming, it's already here!

???

Truth.

Yoyoyo

Ron Paul or bust, IMO.

It is going to be a brokered convention so Ron Paul is going to have more swing than people realize, its just he won't likely accept a VP job in anyone's bid for the WH. He's gunna have to bargain for the top spot I guess.

jlew24asu

its been a few hours since we had a rp thread. since he has no chance of realistically becoming president. would he accept an offer as sec of treasury?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Sure makes it all a lot more interesting don't it?

.

DriftingByTheStorm

jlew24asu wrote:

its been a few hours since we had a rp thread. since he has no chance of realistically becoming president. would he accept an offer as sec of treasury?

Lol.
You realize the lunacy of what you are suggesting?

"The Secretary along with the Treasurer must sign Federal Reserve notes before they can become legal tender."

You think they are gonn let ole Ron be in charge of determining the "Legal Tender" status of FRNs ???

Lol.
He could stop the whole system overnight with that power!




"The Chief Financial Officer of the government, the Secretary serves as [ ...] U.S. Governor of the International Monetary Fund, the International Bank for Reconstruction and Development, the Inter-American Development Bank, the Asian Development Bank, and the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development."

DriftingByTheStorm

FUCK YEAH.
THIS IS THE AD I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR:

Ron Paul: OUR NATION IS IN TROUBLE

:eek:

I hope they get even more "scary"!

also,
Ron Paul: The Only One (repleat with Reagan "endorsment"!)

Ron Paul The Fearmonger, Radio Ad

cornnifer

This just in:
Mike Gravel tirelessly campaigning. Says he likes his chances of winning.

jlew24asu

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Lol.
You realize the lunacy of what you are suggesting?

"The Secretary along with the Treasurer must sign Federal Reserve notes before they can become legal tender."

You think they are gonn let ole Ron be in charge of determining the "Legal Tender" status of FRNs ???

Lol.
He could stop the whole system overnight with that power!




"The Chief Financial Officer of the government, the Secretary serves as [ ...] U.S. Governor of the International Monetary Fund, the International Bank for Reconstruction and Development, the Inter-American Development Bank, the Asian Development Bank, and the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development."

yea I know thats why I asked. you say he is highly respected amount the top financial brass. but any candidate would not want him near the treasury.

ledvedderman

"Playoffs!?!?!"

DriftingByTheStorm

jlew24asu wrote:

yea I know thats why I asked. you say he is highly respected amount the top financial brass. but any candidate would not want him near the treasury.

He is respected by people like Forbes and Rogers because his policy view would bring LONG TERM stability to the currency and the markets ...

Those people are positioned to withstand, and ultimately would like to see a return to true commodity money.

If you don't understand the inherent and multitudinous dangers of pure fiat currency, then you don't stand a chance of grasping the urgency of the crisis this country is facing.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

In other news, Obama is now wearing his star of David I love Israel underwear collection exclusively.

He will be gifted the congratulatory AIPAC supermax butt plug and gyrating dildo set, assorted blue and white pom poms, and certidied Mossad rectal stretching kit upon winning the election.

jlew24asu

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

He is respected by people like Forbes and Rogers because his policy view would bring LONG TERM stability to the currency and the markets ...

Those people are positioned to withstand, and ultimately would like to see a return to true commodity money.

If you don't understand the inherent and multitudinous dangers of pure fiat currency, then you don't stand a chance of grasping the urgency of the crisis this country is facing.

I do understand. probably not as much as you but the pending "crisis" seems to not have materialized even though you predict it daily.

DriftingByTheStorm

jlew24asu wrote:

I do understand. probably not as much as you but the pending "crisis" seems to not have materialized even though you predict it daily.

Oh really.
What does gold at 924 an ounce mean to you, then?
You think that is just "flight to safety"?
That is inflation Jlew.

Lets start the Creature From Jekyll history lesson now:

page 180 ...

"In 1810, the House of Commons created a special committee, called the Select Committee on the High Price of Gold Bullion, to explore the problem and to find a solution. The verdict handed down in the final report was a model of clarity. Prices were not going up, it said. The value of the currency was going down, and that was due to the fact that it was being created at a faster rate than the creation of goods to be purchased with it. The solution? The committee recommended that the notes of the Bank of England be made fully convertible into gold coin, thus putting a brake on the supply of money that could be created."

So, England "figured it out" TWO HUNDRED YEARS AGO.

What do you think has changed in 200 years that has FUNDAMENTALY altered how fiat money "works"?

If you don't see the "crisis" materializing before you, you are purposely putting on blinders.

Gimme a fukin' break, Jlew.

sweetpotato

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

You want a REAL straight talker, 'eh?

I don't wanna hear nay-saying rhetoric.

If you are gonna trash the possibilities,
instead sit back and ask yourself,
did you ever envision Ron Paul beating Giuliani in EVERY state so far ... did you ever even think he could register at greater than 2% on any ballot? How about 7, 8, 9, 10, and 12 percent? How about two second place finishes?

Whether he "makes it" or not ... you can not deny the power of people united in belief of what is true and just.

The fact that it is not a sure-win at this point is evidence ONLY of the overwhelming amount of disinformation and manipulation being pushed on the American people every day of their lives.

Ron Paul is one of FIVE candidates left for the Republican nomination ... one of five left OUT OF TWELVE who ran. He has stomped Giuliani in every state so far, and yet the media STILL talks about the 911 Zero (oops, i meant 'hero') about 100 times more than it mentions Ron Paul.

You can disagree with his position,
or you can be a little cry baby whiner and bitch about his "chances" ...

but if you were true and honest in your assessment, you would see that the man is a true patriot, fighting for real truth, real justice, real hope, and real change ... and doing it in the face of massive apathy, confusion, disillusion, and establishment manipulation. And seeing that, you should be honest enough to at least say, "i appreciate what he is trying to accomplish."

When people like Steve Forbes and Jim Rogers are saying positive things about the man, you know his fiscal aims aren't bullshit ... they are backed by the mouths of some of the most successful business men of our times.

When the US Comptroller General is saying things that 100% back what Ron Paul is saying ... how can you possibly argue "Ron Paul is a fool. He doesn't know what he is talking about. It would be a disaster." ... You have the goddamn Comptroller General telling you disaster is already coming, it's already here!

???

Truth.

huh.


i really thought he'd dropped out of the race. guess i confused him with kucinich. maybe 'cause they wear similar wigs.

sweetpotato

cornnifer wrote:

This just in:
Mike Gravel tirelessly campaigning. Says he likes his chances of winning.

i actually like mike gravel.

DriftingByTheStorm

sweetpotato wrote:

huh.


i really thought he'd dropped out of the race. guess i confused him with kucinich. maybe 'cause they wear similar wigs.

How come you only ever seem to make personal jabs at Ron Paul?

Don't you have some sort of substantial policy criticism that you can hurl out instead of endlessly berating him for no apparent reason?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

How come you only ever seem to make personal jabs at Ron Paul?

Don't you have some sort of substantial policy criticism that you can hurl out instead of endlessly berating him for no apparent reason?

republican v.s. democrat shtick...

aka another smoke and mirror syndrome casualty

.

jlew24asu

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Oh really.
What does gold at 924 an ounce mean to you, then?
You think that is just "flight to safety"?
That is inflation Jlew.

Lets start the Creature From Jekyll history lesson now:

page 180 ...

"In 1810, the House of Commons created a special committee, called the Select Committee on the High Price of Gold Bullion, to explore the problem and to find a solution. The verdict handed down in the final report was a model of clarity. Prices were not going up, it said. The value of the currency was going down, and that was due to the fact that it was being created at a faster rate than the creation of goods to be purchased with it. The solution? The committee recommended that the notes of the Bank of England be made fully convertible into gold coin, thus putting a brake on the supply of money that could be created."

So, England "figured it out" TWO HUNDRED YEARS AGO.

What do you think has changed in 200 years that has FUNDAMENTALY altered how fiat money "works"?

If you don't see the "crisis" materializing before you, you are purposely putting on blinders.

Gimme a fukin' break, Jlew.

I'm not disagreeing with you about the problem. but inflation is not as bad you think it is. neither is this "crisis"

DriftingByTheStorm

jlew24asu wrote:

I'm not disagreeing with you about the problem. but inflation is not as bad you think it is.

... oh really?
Why did the Feds pull M3 in 2006?

If you can't explain to me why the Government would suddenly feel uncomfortable showing the world how much money was in circulation, i don't want to hear it.

From everything i understand the M3 money supply was aimed basicaly straight at the roof the last time it was published. Like real inflation running at something like 17%? [with all the bullshit our government spends money on, do you fucking buy this excuse? "It costs a lot to collect the data but doesn't provide significantly useful information" -- wikipedia]

Why is the price of a Hershey bar just announces to be raised by THIRTEEN PERCENT?

And if you say "oil prices" ... well that is inflation, buddy.

:rolleyes:

sweetpotato

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

How come you only ever seem to make personal jabs at Ron Paul?

Don't you have some sort of substantial policy criticism that you can hurl out instead of endlessly berating him for no apparent reason?

i really just like fucking with you. you're so easy.

besides, i joked about kucinich there, too. you don't see his supporters responding like whiny babies.

ron paul actually has SOME good ideas, but he's also kooky and not electable. so he makes for a fun punching bag.

DriftingByTheStorm

sweetpotato wrote:

but he's also kooky

Hey it's all good fun, right? :cool:

Can you articulate any of what you find to be "kooky" about the positions, advocations, or admonishments of Dr. Ron Paul ?

Specificaly.

Thank you.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Hey it's all good fun, right? :cool:

Can you articulate any of what you find to be "kooky" about the positions, advocations, or admonishments of Dr. Ron Paul ?

Specificaly.

Thank you.

That won't be happening....it requires knowledge of politics and economics beyond a McDonalds level.

Toss a camera around the neck, and slap a tourist sign on it...

hehe