The Oklahoma City Bombings: Re-Examined
DriftingByTheStorm
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Please my little message pit buddies.
Check out this video:
Minutes 17:15 through 43:00
I would be so grateful if anyone could look over this information regarding Oklahoma City and tell me if you think it holds any water.
THANK YOU SO MUCH
-your ungrumpy pal, dbts-
Check out this video:
Minutes 17:15 through 43:00
I would be so grateful if anyone could look over this information regarding Oklahoma City and tell me if you think it holds any water.
THANK YOU SO MUCH
-your ungrumpy pal, dbts-
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
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...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Oh now just wait till the next crisis in one of our cities and see how much more Anti-Terriost Acts will be passed real quick.
This how these laws can easily be passed without the American public batting an eye.
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*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Actualy the most fucked up thing is the guy getting out of the truck next to McVeigh WAS an arab! Hussein Hassan Al-Husseini. Check it out.
But no no.
We don't want to implicate the A-Rabs ...
at least, NOT yet.
First lets crack down on militiamen, gunrights, and get the cameras aimed INWARD!
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If I opened it now would you not understand?
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
Haven't seen it.
Should i put it on my short list?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Oh man that was one awesome movie....here's a bit on Arlington Road.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Well, i gotta say i'm intrigued.
Any film which gets "1 star" and the "idiot reviewers" write up gets my attention.
Cusak, Bridges, and Robbins?
May be the first movie i go to rent in the last 5 years.
Honestly not even sure i have a membership to blockbuster anymore. Hmm.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
1st confirmed kill in the Gulf War.
Two pints of strawberry ice cream.
Good film i saw it a couple of weeks ago, and is exactly what i thought of when i read this thread.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
Examples?
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
Yeah.
A bill which failed to get passed the year BEFORE this attack.
I'd also just be curious to know if ANYONE actually watched the clip i reference from the OP link.
I'm glad just to have some non-"Your a fucking idiot" discussion, but if i could actualy manage to engage ANYONE to broaden their horizons and actually at least consider alternative viewpoints, then maybe we'd be getting somewhere.
Instead everyone of these posts immediately derails in to some side issue or discussion of a movie?
So, anyone watch the clip and have any questions about the "official story"?
Seems to have more holes than an entire wheel of swiss.
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If I opened it now would you not understand?
this is VERY good. thanks for posting
Yes - what is the big deal about those laws?
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
AEDPA was the (at the time) very bold first step in wiping erradicating habeas corpus in America. Which, if you ask me or most liberty minded folks, is a pretty "big deal".
Look where these laws are twisting and winding their way. Combine this with Bush's lovely new executive orders which contain language so ridiculously vauge -- "Blocking Property of Certain Persons Who Threaten Stabilization Efforts in Iraq" -- as to put you, me, or Eddie Vedder in peril and you have a serious problem!
So through the lovely process of gradualism, which the powers that be just love, we now have a situation where if you protest the war, you could get swept away to a secret torture facility to have your genitals crushed, with no judge ever hearing your case. If that sounds far fetched, just wait until martial law gets dropped on your face. I hear the level of tolerance for that kind of free speech crap drops pretty dramaticaly in such circumstances.
So, whose ready for the GULAG?
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If I opened it now would you not understand?
Typo Man: "Thanks kidz, but remembir, stay in skool!"
So the attitude is enough to keep you from even investigating the information behind the attitude, but not enough to keep you from posting an irrelevant response?
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hey look. i changed the OP, just for you.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Someone shouting obscenities and screaming at me to get my head out of my ass because I am stupid and need to wake up and I am brainwashed is not exactly employing the right tactics to get me to be more interested in a subject. You are not welcoming feedback and open discussion, you are insulting everyone who reads your posts and calling them brain dead idiots if they do not read everything you post and agree with it. Don't even try to turn this back on my and say my response(s) are irrelevant. You're a fear mongerer and you don't bring anything valid to the table. Posts like yours are a dime a dozen on the web and most web surfers will just skip right over anything you or anyone like you has to say. You’re not this witty and intellectual powerhouse that you think you are. You need to take a step back and take a deep breath before you post and ask yourself who the intended audience is and why exactly they should be interested in what you have to say. I love a good debate. I hate being beaten over the head with insults and obscenities when someone is trying to force their viewpoints and links to articles down my throat. You are not helping the Synergy community with this stuff. You are not enlightening anyone. You need to relax.
Why did I even feel the need to respond in the first place? Who knows? I got baited I suppose.
Typo Man: "Thanks kidz, but remembir, stay in skool!"
Again, going back to "the boy who cried wolf", the story has an ironic twist if the everytime the boy screams, sure as sugar, the wolf creeps up, kills a sheep then slinks back in to the woods. And yet the townsfolk all roll their eyes.
So by not bringing "anything valid to the table", i assume you checked over the link and found it lacking? Or you are just judging a book by its cover?
I don't know.
Again, i ask, two responses in to a post about Oklahoma City, have you checked out the link, or do you have anything RELEVANT to the topic at hand to add?
[If you want to debate my posting habits thats great. I've heard it all before. The style developed out of being called a fearmonger REGARDLESS of which approach i used. I don't know how long you've been around, but i used to be much more civil, and i got called just as many names. :( I would post information, not flame anyone, and simply state my position, and the hounds would jump, screaming "fearmongerer", "fool", and "idiot". So its damned if you do, damned if you don't, huh? Sucks to be a conspiracy kook i guess. ]
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Try reading a profile and checking post counts...might help.
Typo Man: "Thanks kidz, but remembir, stay in skool!"
wow.
you're not even going to check out the information contained in this post, but you have the balls to tell me to research your posting history?
i take it by your blanket refusal to acknowledge the questions posed that you'd prefer to keep your head in the sand, as you said.
BTW, you said you love a good debate, but so far, nothin'. huh?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
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funny, you started this thread with your tail between your legs- prolly for a good reason, like you pissed enough people off recently (while i was away and didn't get to witness it, praise god) with your usual flair. now you're right back to being the tinker bell of the moving train, sprinkling your pixie dust on whoever calls you out.
you might want to step back and take a breather, and realize that maybe people are sick of you for good reason.
"Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore
"i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
~ed, 8/7
"common sense" and "inherent good" hold very little weight with me. What little weight they do hold goes totaly out the window when the word "politician" gets added to the mix.
To your claim
why did you through in the qualifier, "on its own soil", does that mean you acknowledge that the US Government has repeatedly made it clear they have no problem secretly & subversively murdering tens, hundreds, or thousands of innocents in car bombs, market bombs, massacres, etc ... as long as it is NOT on their soil with "their" citizens?
At what point do these allegedly "inherently good" politicians make the internal moral distinction between killing innocent people in latin america, central america, italy, iran etc etc etc ... and killing its "own" citizens?
Please note also that we are, generally here, NOT speaking about politicians being acused of most of these arangements ... these are spooks! CIA, FBI, high level government operatives, being driven (probably appointed by) and loyal to very elite interests. The "power structure" you see on TV is not the real power structure.
"911 Conspiracy Crap" huh?
What would be the honest explanation for why at least 12 of the 19 hijackers were trained at US bases by US military & intellegence operatives? Here is one "credible" source since god knows you dismiss everything from prisonplanet or infowars as dishonest, even though all of it comes from mainstream news sources anyhow.
Why were the border guards ordered from on high to let these "intelligence assets" in to the country, despite having flagged them as terrorists, but then being told that "terrorist" was their intelligence cover?
Why were the FBI agents who did their jobs and tried to alert the administration to their suspicions about possible terrorist activity involving plains as weapons fired from their jobs? And why were the ones that did the firing and snubbing of the good agents giving cash bonuses and promotions?
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But at least address how the US could claim 12 of 19 hijackers as intelligence assets, but not somehow be aware they were planning to double cross america in a big way?
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As for Oklahoma City you should at LEAST be able to explain why the Governments REPEATED assertion was that McVeigh was acting ALONE, and yet the VIDEO CAMERA CLEARLY SHOWS A MAN GETTING OUT OF THE PASSENGER SEAT! Add to that that multiple witnesses identified the passenger as being "arab" or "middle eastern" and you don't start to smell ANYTHING fishy?
What about over a DOZEN media reports saying "multiple devices STILL in the building", "Just CONFIRMED BY THE FBI, there are 2 other devices in the building", they had 2 bomb trucks pull up, and multiple witnesses reporting hearing multiple explosions in the first place, an explosives expert testify that it was a device in the building as well, and a seizmographic signature SHOWING two "explosions"?
And they had 12 cameras they wouldn't release despite multiple FIRs, and ... and ... and ...
If I opened it now would you not understand?