GodPt3: PAUL coming in SECOND in NV. FIFTEEN % of vote!

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  • How do you think Ron Paul is going to keep this momentum for three weeks?

    You mean, with out the moneytrust media's approval?

    Isn't that what you are really asking here?

    You mean,
    in the face of this bullshit?
    Piece of Shit NY Times
    Faux Fucking Piece of Fox Shit
    Oh Jee, Look: Did You Know Giuliani Was Beating Ron Paul! Load of fox crap!

    Go ahead.
    I want to hear you deny it.
    Tell me it isn't real.
    Tell me i'm a crybaby, and that my candidate just sucks.

    Nevada is a testament to the truth in THE MESSAGE ...

    If the message was given any legitimate and consistent airtime on the Old Media, Paul would be running solid in the pack.

    Unfortunately the corruption and rampant manipulation by the moneytrust is so sickening and perverse that even my mother, who really is unsure about ron paul, thinks it is despicable.

    Paul's message may be a bit thick for the average tube-bent boob to digest. But your question makes it sound like you think he is on a level playing field, and he clearly is not.
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  • ...and the money just keeps rolling in.

    quite something.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,054
    what's your point?

    I meant it is a retarded process to pick a nominee. For all the one person, one vote fans out there, this system is ridiculous. When more people can like individual A over individual B, and individual B wins, that is ridiculous.


    Edit: Sorry for not having a youtube or picture reference. 4% in SC for Paul. Where is your thread about that?
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    I meant it is a retarded process to pick a nominee. For all the one person, one vote fans out there, this system is ridiculous. When more people can like individual A over individual B, and individual B wins, that is ridiculous.


    Edit: Sorry for not having a youtube or picture reference. 4% in SC for Paul. Where is your thread about that?

    4%??? I thought it was 2. and wheres the outcry for the lack of duncan hunter coverage? hehe. fucking media machine!
  • Edit: Sorry for not having a youtube or picture reference. 4% in SC for Paul. Where is your thread about that?

    So let me get this straight.

    Ron Paul has beat GIULIANI in EVERY state. In all of them by at LEAST 2 to 1. Some 4 to 1 or more.

    Giuliani has CONSISTENTLY placed just above Hunter for last place.

    Yet the media truly covers him, and props him up on this bogus "He is gonna win Florida" strategy.

    So you're telling me a piece of shit like Giuliani who LOSES EVERYWHERE is "viable" still... and a guy like Ron Paul who now has a few 4ths, a 3rd, a 2nd and all of this with NO MEDIA COVERAGE is simply unelectable?

    To me that is much more pathetic than Ron Paul not getting elected by the yokel super-"conservative" south carolinians (and i want to clarify that i love SC, and lived in Charleston for a while, but having lived there i know what "them people" are like on the whole, and the word "simple" comes to mind). The fact that allegedly "educated" and "forwardthinking" folk here on the train can come in and act totaly ignorant and frankly be pretty crass about something they seem to not really understand.
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  • Anyone that doesn't see media bias and censorship is either hopelessly delusional or specifically lying on purpose for a reason.

    The latter is a pretty much a certainty from any message board on the internet with more than a few thousand users.

    Reminds me of that song Some of these things are not like the others.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • OutOfBreathOutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
    A suggestion on Paul and Giuliani so far. There have been primaries in, what, 4 states? Any of them any big populationwise? Now, a candidate who doesnt win any of those 4 gets less (or even no) press. Especially since american press is always bent on "winners". Paul hasn't won any state, nor is he likely to (usually chalking up 2-15%). Hence, he doesnt get highlighted much in news summaries. I believe that would change should he suddenly win a state. Until he does, dont hold your breath.

    Giuliani is thought to have a shot since he's presumably big in big states like Florida and his home New York. Besides, he has made a name for himself already, so he is more "interesting" because of his otherwise celebrity. Hence he gets more press.

    And according to these polls: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/

    This puts Giuliani as number 4 overall, battling for the top spots in Florida, New Jersey and California. Big, important states. Notice how Paul stays put on 5-6% on all of these.

    Hence, it is not surprising that media dont cover Paul a lot, since he's not even a longshot. Giuliani is a longshot, and a celebrity too.

    Not that I really care one way or the other. The continued one-sidedness and calls for conspiracy/media working against him/everyone REALLY wanting him in the white house just annoys me I guess.

    It's fine that you have your candidate, it is fine you campaigining for him like this. That's great. I just feel you could go easier on the exclamation marks is all.

    (edit) As to if he SHOULD get more press, I dont necessarily disagree with that. I am always in favour of the most alternatives being known. But seeing as he overall perhaps can grab the 5th or maybe the 4th spot for the GOP, he is the one to go when media wants to dumb it down. Had he been a real contender, he'd gotten his press.
    You should revive a culture for parties, and make a system that allows more than 2 monster parties, so he could start his own party, get 5-6% of the congress, and work from there. What you got now with extremely expensive presidential campaigns to "raise awareness" is really a very ineffective way to go about it. Anyways.

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  • You mean, with out the moneytrust media's approval?

    Isn't that what you are really asking here?

    You mean,
    in the face of this bullshit?
    Piece of Shit NY Times
    Faux Fucking Piece of Fox Shit
    Oh Jee, Look: Did You Know Giuliani Was Beating Ron Paul! Load of fox crap!

    That is so fucked up.
  • It's one thing to not give someone press coverage because they are not as popular, however, it's entirely another thing to completely omit, skew results, and toss around childish innuendo's about the guy on purpose.

    Fux news is hopelessly notorious for doing this. It's 100% undeniable.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • OutOfBreathOutOfBreath Posts: 1,804
    When have I ever expressed anything but contempt for Fox News? And since he's against the war, well duh, he'll get mocked there.

    My point is that he is a longshot, if that. And you have a media that covers winners and the big guys. That's a structural problem. Smaller candidates get no press whatsoever. You dont hear much of anyone past Clinton, Obama and Edwards om the dem side either. Understandably too with the 1 man pr district winner-takes-all system you got going generally. I dont think that's a good system, and indeed there are problems. However, I have no faith in the conspiracy against Paul. He's just not getting any like all other minor candidates. Just sucks for him that he seems to be a major minor and still not be heard.

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    Dan
    "YOU [humans] NEED TO BELIEVE IN THINGS THAT AREN'T TRUE. HOW ELSE CAN THEY BECOME?" - Death

    "Every judgment teeters on the brink of error. To claim absolute knowledge is to become monstrous. Knowledge is an unending adventure at the edge of uncertainty." - Frank Herbert, Dune, 1965
  • It's one thing to not give someone press coverage because they are not as popular, however, it's entirely another thing to completely omit, skew results, and toss around childish innuendo's about the guy on purpose.

    Fux news is hopelessly notorious for doing this. It's 100% undeniable.

    You mean like this crap?
    People you need to be MAD about this shit
    not making fun of a candidate.
    don't be stupid.
    FUCK YOU, FRANK!
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    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • You mean like this crap?
    People you need to be MAD about this shit/url]

    That Luntz SC focus group thing was so staged and rehearsed. OMG what a total con job. They undoubtedly did dry run rehearsals(sss) right down to who raises their hands, and for what questions, and who says specifically what (also scripted), and in what order.

    The sad part is I bet a lot of people probably actually bought it.

    Heinous...

    "Fux news....tabloid grade media for tube suckers."

    :D
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Bueller?......Beuller?.....Ferris Bueller?.... Bueller?.....

    Hello? Is this supposed to be a news channel?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5L5dYzu1w9k

    Oh wait...it eventually happens :D
    .
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • So when is godpt3 going to finish uploading the youtube vid of him blowing a stable full of donkey because RP broke 10%?

    ?

    .
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • I wonder if Ron Paul would consider an Independent run with Ralph nader?
  • NevermindNevermind Posts: 1,006
    Ralph Nader is a puppet.
  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    Hey DriftingByTheStorm,

    2 years from now, you will look back on these posts and wonder WTF you were thinking. Believe me, I often cringe when I go back and read my posts from 2 years ago (or more), and sometimes even from 1 year ago. It's great that you are passionate, but there is such a thing as too passionate, and it's never a good thing to let your passions override your reason. But never let your passions die.

    But Ron Paul is not going to be President and 2nd place in Nevada is not a big deal. He got 6,000 votes in a state with 2.5 million people.

    I have to say the voting power of Mormons is quite amusing. But that's what happens when most people don't give a shit, and the Mormons go out in full force. But so far Romney's only won two states with a lot of Mormons (Wyoming, Nevada) and the state he grew up in (Michigan). He won't win many more, but if he keeps getting 2nd or 3rd, I dunno... he may pull it off. I'm a little amazed he's done as well as he has.
  • Or perhaps the complete opposite will take place...

    coin....flip...whee..
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • Kenny Olav wrote:
    Hey DriftingByTheStorm,

    2 years from now, you will look back on these posts and wonder WTF you were thinking. Believe me, I often cringe when I go back and read my posts from 2 years ago (or more), and sometimes even from 1 year ago. It's great that you are passionate, but there is such a thing as too passionate, and it's never a good thing to let your passions override your reason. But never let your passions die.

    But Ron Paul is not going to be President and 2nd place in Nevada is not a big deal. He got 6,000 votes in a state with 2.5 million people.

    I have to say the voting power of Mormons is quite amusing. But that's what happens when most people don't give a shit, and the Mormons go out in full force. But so far Romney's only won two states with a lot of Mormons (Wyoming, Nevada) and the state he grew up in (Michigan). He won't win many more, but if he keeps getting 2nd or 3rd, I dunno... he may pull it off. I'm a little amazed he's done as well as he has.

    You're right,
    in 2 years when we are knee deep in the thick of the same old shit that the last guy brought on ... and now the new boss ... the same as the old boss ... is stuffing you full of more of the same ... yEAH ... I WILL CRINGE!

    I am not going to wonder wtf i was thinking, or feel stupid for writing it.

    I am betting money a good few on here will feel REAL STUPID for not voting for the man ...

    but that being said, your talking to someone here who REFUSED to take GodPT3 up on his silly little bet ("if RP gets more than 10% of the vote in any state...") because i didn't think the media circus we called an election would allow him that opportunity.

    The process has proved me wrong, and THAT is why i posted.

    I have no pretensions that Ron Paul has enough MEDIA BACKING to become our president ... although i do think if things go to hel in a hand basket in the next few weeks, and if this whole thing with Ron having a billionaire backer is true ... that some highly targeted and continuously playing advertisements could give him a fighting chance ...

    and i would have counted on you to not be so much of a Debbie Downer on the freedom and liberty message, Kenny.

    Glad to see that apathy and despair have finaly coated your heart black,, and turned you in to a hope-burn-out.
    :(
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  • Just after Christmas, of all possible times, and money pouring in is still pretty damn epic.

    http://ronpaulgraphs.com/jan_21_total.html

    .
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • kenny olavkenny olav Posts: 3,319
    You're right,
    in 2 years when we are knee deep in the thick of the same old shit that the last guy brought on ... and now the new boss ... the same as the old boss ... is stuffing you full of more of the same ... yEAH ... I WILL CRINGE!

    I am not going to wonder wtf i was thinking, or feel stupid for writing it.

    I am betting money a good few on here will feel REAL STUPID for not voting for the man ...

    but that being said, your talking to someone here who REFUSED to take GodPT3 up on his silly little bet ("if RP gets more than 10% of the vote in any state...") because i didn't think the media circus we called an election would allow him that opportunity.

    The process has proved me wrong, and THAT is why i posted.

    I have no pretensions that Ron Paul has enough MEDIA BACKING to become our president ... although i do think if things go to hel in a hand basket in the next few weeks, and if this whole thing with Ron having a billionaire backer is true ... that some highly targeted and continuously playing advertisements could give him a fighting chance ...

    and i would have counted on you to not be so much of a Debbie Downer on the freedom and liberty message, Kenny.

    Glad to see that apathy and despair have finaly coated your heart black,, and turned you in to a hope-burn-out.
    :(


    coated my heart black. :D

    hey, i'm not saying you should cave in and vote for someone who has a chance to win, if you don't think that person is principled. i'm voting for Mike Gravel after all, and i never thought he had a chance.

    but it would take some pretty bizarre twists of fate to reverse the trend i'm seeing, with Paul getting mostly single digits. i think the politically aware already know who he is and what he's about, and the politically unaware aren't going to suddenly going to get jazzed about him in the next few weeks before Super Duper Ultra Strength Tuesday.

    Ron Paul has made some great statements at some of these debates and stood up very well against McCain, Giuliani, Huckabee, etc --- hopefully he'll spark a fire in some minds like Nader did to mine in 2000, but I think that's the only accomplishment one can hope for.
  • The inside word is that Ron Paul may have just FLAT OUT WON LOUISIANA!

    So proud of my home state, if this is true!
    :D

    Here is the sketchy chain of hearsay:
    Someone on the RP board left his precinct, but was yelled at by his friend who was working there. He was then told that not only was Ron winning the precinct with 60% of the count done, but from what his friend knew (since he was working at the precinct) Ron was winning ALL of the precincts.

    Now i find this hard to believe, and to swallow, but LA was outright ignored by all the candidates ... and among other things, Ron Paul has been vocal down there about wanting to ABOLISH FEMA ... which, believe you me, GOES OVER REAL WELL DOWN THERE!

    :D

    This will be MAD DELEGATES for Ron at the convention if it its true, and if the convention is brokered ... AND if Ron can in 5 more states (needed to be in the running at a brokered convention, from what i understand) ...

    Anyhow.

    Just a heads up.
    Godpt3 ... you may want to get a headstart on licking all those donkey balls, and sucking on the camel titties.

    :D
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  • My3rdEyeMy3rdEye Posts: 927
    The inside word is that Ron Paul may have just FLAT OUT WON LOUISIANA!

    So proud of my home state, if this is true!
    :D

    Here is the sketchy chain of hearsay:
    Someone on the RP board left his precinct, but was yelled at by his friend who was working there. He was then told that not only was Ron winning the precinct with 60% of the count done, but from what his friend knew (since he was working at the precinct) Ron was winning ALL of the precincts.

    Now i find this hard to believe, and to swallow, but LA was outright ignored by all the candidates ... and among other things, Ron Paul has been vocal down there about wanting to ABOLISH FEMA ... which, believe you me, GOES OVER REAL WELL DOWN THERE!

    :D

    This will be MAD DELEGATES for Ron at the convention if it its true, and if the convention is brokered ... AND if Ron can in 5 more states (needed to be in the running at a brokered convention, from what i understand) ...

    Anyhow.

    Just a heads up.
    Godpt3 ... you may want to get a headstart on licking all those donkey balls, and sucking on the camel titties.

    :D

    ???

    Primary is not until Feb. 9th. Am I wrong on that?
  • My3rdEye wrote:
    ???

    Primary is not until Feb. 9th. Am I wrong on that?

    NO.
    You're right.

    Louisiana runs a Caucaus AND a primary.

    Ron Paul is on track to win the delegates at caucaus.

    If no one candidate can get more than 50% of the vote in the primary, all those delegates can vote for Ron Paul ... and since most of them are Ron Paul supporters, who you think they gonna vote for?

    :D
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  • ron paul winning the republican nomination?


    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

    please, tell me you know SOMETHING about politics because if you do you won't get your hopes up.

    damn. people and their support for this guy is so damn funny.
  • hobbes wrote:
    ron paul winning the republican nomination?


    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

    please, tell me you know SOMETHING about politics because if you do you won't get your hopes up.

    damn. people and their support for this guy is so damn funny.

    Yeah.
    Dude, i'm no idiot.
    I know "whats up", but i also believe in standing for something on principle.

    If you would rather sell out to the lesser of two evils, then by all means abandon all your integrity and jump on the bandwagon.

    Getting back to Louisiana,
    I STAND CORRECTED,

    AT THE LAST MINUTE, ALL THE OTHER CANDIDATEDS BANDED TOGEATHER, UNDER THE TITLE "PRO-LIFE \ PRO - FAMILY" TO STEAL THE VOTE.

    No shit. Look into it.
    Instead of having boothes for all the candidates where someone would say, "Hey here is a list of the delegates that support Candidate X, vote for these folks if you like Candidate X" ... INSTEAD there was

    a. The Ron Paul booth
    b. The "Pro-Life \ Pro-Family" booth

    Which consisted of a list of any and all delegates NOT Pro-Paul. And by which i mean, it was a hodgepodge of McCain, Romney, Giuliani, and Huckabee delegates.

    INTERESTING AND SICK, huh?

    :(
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  • It's funny, I go out in the world, and 70% of the people I see don't strike me as particularly intelligent in one way shape or form. A large percentage of that strikes me in many forms.

    Then I realize as far as percentages go, I am more likely to come across more intelligent people in Canada out of 100 people just going on the ratio of numbers. i.e. US:Canada approx 10:1.

    That's what I notice overwhelmingly when I come across people in my travels to the South.

    Idiocracy is here already I think.

    hehe
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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