US Comptroller General Preaches Doom And Gloom - Says Politicians Won't Listen!

DriftingByTheStorm

Check out these two interviews:
Glenn Beck interviews David Walker
Steve Kroft interviews David Walker

Notice how they say he is "taking his message to the people" because "the politicians aren't listening" ...

good stuff, huh?

So.
What do you guys think.
Basicaly this is the CFO of our country. The big accountant in charge.

He in no uncertain terms says our country is headed straight to Fuckedville and that the politicians refuse to even address this issue.

Any thoughts?

Am i a fearmonger, or is this shit more real than real?

jlew24asu

politicians are assholes and not very bright.

DriftingByTheStorm

jlew24asu wrote:

politicians are assholes and not very bright.

They should all be brought up on charges of "high crimes and\or misdemeanors".

I agree with your statement,
i just don't think it serves as any form of justification.

Here you have a man in an position appointed by the president for a term of fifteen years ... who is sticking his neck out to say "we are in deep shit, and we need action" ... and the response he is getting is cold shoulders.

When the politicians don't even respond to THE presidentialy appointed chief accountant of the GAO ... that is derriliction of duty.
plain and simple.

fanch75

Accountants are brilliant, charismatic, thoughtful, and very insightful people.

DriftingByTheStorm

fanch75 wrote:

Accountants are brilliant, charismatic, thoughtful, and very insightful people.

lol, fanchy.

i used to be an accountant.
only problem was i didn' like to count!

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

What do you guys think?

i think he is gonna be replaced soon if he keeps talking!

jlew24asu

fanch75 wrote:

Accountants are brilliant, charismatic, thoughtful, and very insightful people.

compared to politicians...

RolandTD20Kdrummer

hindsight is 20/20...

if only there was a candidate already talking with some 20/20 foresight..

hmm...

Oh well, I've always wanted to go bankrupt anyways

DriftingByTheStorm

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Oh well, I've always wanted to go bankrupt anyways

Lol, they say its a very liberating experience.

Larry Livingston, allegedly one of the greatest traders of all time, said (in a fictionalized account of his life) that he couldn't trade "right" until he declared bankruptcy ... and that once he did he felt immediate liberation of thought.

Maybe it would do us good to go "bankrupt" on the whole.

:cool:

RolandTD20Kdrummer

That Steve Kroft clip.......holy cr@p.

I think some people are refusing to see that a lot of people abandon a ship when it's sinking. Meaning all the bright and brilliant minds so to speak will move on out to greener pastures to the lands of milk and honey.

Then it all becomes that blessed movie Idiocracy in its full glory.

Well....it's officially Jan 2008. Here comes the rush of all the baby boomer retiree's.

Hey! lets bomb Iran! woohoo!

RolandTD20Kdrummer

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Lol, they say its a very liberating experience.

Larry Livingston, allegedly one of the greatest traders of all time, said (in a fictionalized account of his life) that he couldn't trade "right" until he declared bankruptcy ... and that once he did he felt immediate liberation of thought.

Maybe it would do us good to go "bankrupt" on the whole.

:cool:

My car ran out of gas a while back, and I had to walk about a kilometer to the gas station and back carrying about a gallon of gas. Compared to driving, it was in the neighborhood of 30-50 times longer.

It just hit me how life must have been 100 years ago, without cars.

Then I read this interview... ( a long read but it hits home on some key economic realities)




"Mike: I don't claim to be any kind of nutritional genius or anything like that. I'm just a guy who is willing to tell the truth, who happens to be good at writing and research, and who has lots and lots of time to put into doing this. I don't watch television. I'm not interested in going out and partying. I don't have children. I focus on this mission of research and education, and I'm very passionate about it. I've put a lot of energy into it and thanks to the nutritional regime that I follow, which has a lot of super foods and a lot of nutritional supplements, I have a lot of energy to put into this. Again, I've got to thank those before me who did this research and who were willing to tell the truth decades before they would ever be recognized by society.

I mean, the hippies were right. Everything the hippies told us in the '60s, it turns out it was all right, live close to the earth and have your clothes made out of hemp, make love not war, all the stuff. Wow, suddenly it's right.

Kevin: Oh! It's amazing.

Mike: Yes. We weren't even born in that era.

Kevin: I know. You mentioned audio books. What do you listen to right now? What do you say, three of your biggest influences are right now? Even if it's not in nutrition. What are some of the things that you're listening to now?

Mike: Okay. Right now I'm reading a lot of Gerald Diamond and The History of Civilization. I'm also reading a book called the Collapse of Complex Societies and I'm looking at one of the big factors that go into the success or the decline of a civilization, because people in America today believe that America will be here forever.

Kevin: Yes.

Mike: It's a silly belief. Fifty empires before us have all collapsed for various reasons. Many of them related to what we're seeing in America today, the arrogance, the abandonment of the health of the people and so on, or the destruction of the environment like we saw with these dry lands. I'm very interested in what's going to happen to the United States of America and first world nations. This kind of reading is what has convinced me that the future of America is quite limited.

I publicly predicted that the United States will not last for one more generation, which is about 20-25 years. It will collapse and I believe it will fragment into regional nation states such as the Pacific Northwest region, Northern California, Oregon, Washington; the Southwest region, Southern California, Arizona and so on - A lot of different regions in the East. I believe that the central government no longer has the moral authority nor the credibility to govern this nation and that the States are increasingly fed up with Washington.

Kevin: Is that what happened to these civilizations before they broke up...

Mike: Well, sometimes they destroy their environment and then they just collapse. I mean, in Arizona there were the Anasazi Indians and their civilization was actually destroyed by climate change.

Kevin: Okay.

Mike: I mean, they had a very complex civilization and then it was just gone, all of a sudden gone. People don't realize how fragile civilization really is. It all comes down to, in one way, the food supply. If you can't feed the population, you have no future and the only way you can feed this massive population we have today is through corporate farming based on predictable weather.

When the weather gets radical, the crops disappear, and then the population disappears. We are in what I call a food bubble and a population bubble. It's a food bubble because modern food production is only supported by non-renewable resources, oil and water. When peak oil is really realized and oil becomes scarce, and when the water tables around the world begin to run dry, we are very close to that in many regions now. The food production that we enjoy today will disappear and with that, the population must, unfortunately, follow.

Kevin: When do you think peak oil is? When is that? I read that on your site.

Mike: Yes. I think that we're in the peak right now. I think that from here forward, oil production will decline. The oil companies argue otherwise. They say, "The future looks great. Keep buying oil." If you look at what they're doing, if you look at the actual output of production, which I've done that, it's already been falling for two years. The things that they say will save us such as the big tar pits, tar sands in Canada, really cannot be exploited in any kind of a scale that would make up for the cheap easy oil coming out of the Middle East. Oil from now on is going to get more expensive. Again, I publicly predicted the price of $10 per gallon of gasoline in the next few years and a global oil shortage.

Part of this, by the way, remember I lived in Asia. I speak Chinese. I'm very familiar with the Chinese culture and China is growing by leaps and bounds, and it is very hungry for oil, and concrete, and energy. I mean, they're actually shipping concrete out of the US and importing it into China, concrete.

Kevin: Wow!

Mike: Because they don't have enough concrete to build everything they're trying to construct over there. A third of the Chinese population, 30 years old and younger, a third of those youth, believe they will own and drive a car in the next five years. Now, if you have that many Chinese driving cars...

Kevin: Wow!

Mike: China will consume far more oil than the United States, and there will be a global shortage of oil and it would be China versus the US to try to get oil from those few producers that can still make it. When you have that, the result is, of course, a bidding war, $10 a gallon for gas.

Kevin: It goes up, and not to mention the food, or the cost of oil that it takes to produce the food, the meat and everything else.

Mike: That's what happens. Oil becomes the primary inflationary factor throughout the economy."

DriftingByTheStorm

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

My car ran out of gas a while back, and I had to walk about a kilometer to the gas station and back carrying about a gallon of gas. Compared to driving, it was in the neighborhood of 30-50 times longer.

It just hit me how life must have been 100 years ago, without cars.

Then I read this interview... ( a long read but it hits home on some key economic realities)
"Mike: I don't claim to be any kind of nutritional genius or anything like that. I'm just a guy who is willing to tell the truth, who happens to be good at writing and research, and who has lots and lots of time to put into doing this. I don't watch television. I'm not interested in going out and partying. I don't have children. I focus on this mission of research and education, and I'm very passionate about it. I've put a lot of energy into it and thanks to the nutritional regime that I follow, which has a lot of super foods and a lot of nutritional supplements, I have a lot of energy to put into this. Again, I've got to thank those before me who did this research and who were willing to tell the truth decades before they would ever be recognized by society.

I mean, the hippies were right. Everything the hippies told us in the '60s, it turns out it was all right, live close to the earth and have your clothes made out of hemp, make love not war, all the stuff. Wow, suddenly it's right.

Kevin: Oh! It's amazing.

Mike: Yes. We weren't even born in that era.

Kevin: I know. You mentioned audio books. What do you listen to right now? What do you say, three of your biggest influences are right now? Even if it's not in nutrition. What are some of the things that you're listening to now?

Mike: Okay. Right now I'm reading a lot of Gerald Diamond and The History of Civilization. I'm also reading a book called the Collapse of Complex Societies and I'm looking at one of the big factors that go into the success or the decline of a civilization, because people in America today believe that America will be here forever.

Kevin: Yes.

Mike: It's a silly belief. Fifty empires before us have all collapsed for various reasons. Many of them related to what we're seeing in America today, the arrogance, the abandonment of the health of the people and so on, or the destruction of the environment like we saw with these dry lands. I'm very interested in what's going to happen to the United States of America and first world nations. This kind of reading is what has convinced me that the future of America is quite limited.

I publicly predicted that the United States will not last for one more generation, which is about 20-25 years. It will collapse and I believe it will fragment into regional nation states such as the Pacific Northwest region, Northern California, Oregon, Washington; the Southwest region, Southern California, Arizona and so on - A lot of different regions in the East. I believe that the central government no longer has the moral authority nor the credibility to govern this nation and that the States are increasingly fed up with Washington.

Kevin: Is that what happened to these civilizations before they broke up...

Mike: Well, sometimes they destroy their environment and then they just collapse. I mean, in Arizona there were the Anasazi Indians and their civilization was actually destroyed by climate change.

Kevin: Okay.

Mike: I mean, they had a very complex civilization and then it was just gone, all of a sudden gone. People don't realize how fragile civilization really is. It all comes down to, in one way, the food supply. If you can't feed the population, you have no future and the only way you can feed this massive population we have today is through corporate farming based on predictable weather.

When the weather gets radical, the crops disappear, and then the population disappears. We are in what I call a food bubble and a population bubble. It's a food bubble because modern food production is only supported by non-renewable resources, oil and water. When peak oil is really realized and oil becomes scarce, and when the water tables around the world begin to run dry, we are very close to that in many regions now. The food production that we enjoy today will disappear and with that, the population must, unfortunately, follow.

Kevin: When do you think peak oil is? When is that? I read that on your site.

Mike: Yes. I think that we're in the peak right now. I think that from here forward, oil production will decline. The oil companies argue otherwise. They say, "The future looks great. Keep buying oil." If you look at what they're doing, if you look at the actual output of production, which I've done that, it's already been falling for two years. The things that they say will save us such as the big tar pits, tar sands in Canada, really cannot be exploited in any kind of a scale that would make up for the cheap easy oil coming out of the Middle East. Oil from now on is going to get more expensive. Again, I publicly predicted the price of $10 per gallon of gasoline in the next few years and a global oil shortage.

Part of this, by the way, remember I lived in Asia. I speak Chinese. I'm very familiar with the Chinese culture and China is growing by leaps and bounds, and it is very hungry for oil, and concrete, and energy. I mean, they're actually shipping concrete out of the US and importing it into China, concrete.

Kevin: Wow!

Mike: Because they don't have enough concrete to build everything they're trying to construct over there. A third of the Chinese population, 30 years old and younger, a third of those youth, believe they will own and drive a car in the next five years. Now, if you have that many Chinese driving cars...

Kevin: Wow!

Mike: China will consume far more oil than the United States, and there will be a global shortage of oil and it would be China versus the US to try to get oil from those few producers that can still make it. When you have that, the result is, of course, a bidding war, $10 a gallon for gas.

Kevin: It goes up, and not to mention the food, or the cost of oil that it takes to produce the food, the meat and everything else.

Mike: That's what happens. Oil becomes the primary inflationary factor throughout the economy."

Reminds me squarely of this:
FEEL GOOD MOVIE OF THE YEAR.

only 1 seeder, torrent while you can GOOD shit.

So many depressing facts laid out so plainly that even the "tin foil hat haters" brigade has to stand up and applaude.

:(

RolandTD20Kdrummer

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Reminds me squarely of this:
FEEL GOOD MOVIE OF THE YEAR.

only 1 seeder, torrent while you can GOOD shit.

So many depressing facts laid out so plainly that even the "tin foil hat haters" brigade has to stand up and applaude.

:(

Nice Torrent site.

Thanks!

sponger

It's not that the politicians aren't listening so much as it's that no politician is willing to risk stepping outside of their party's mold. Both the left and the right parties have their predefined approaches to how the country should be fixed, and if any politician wants a solid career in either party, then said politician will have no choice but to follow suit.

Ideally, politicians should be conduits of the collective will of the voting public, and for the most part they are. That's why it's not really up to the politicians to listen to the comptroller so much as it's up to the american people to listen and then follow-through by relaying that sentiment to elected officials.

The odds are that a majority of americans are in the dark when it comes to what the head of the GAO has to say about the state of the economy. Therein lies the problem.