Movie: Taxi To The Dark Side - How America Became Barbarous And Cruel Torturers!
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Excuse my reference to Lawrence of Arabia, but America has become a "silly people. A greedy, barbarous and cruel people."
This movie makes me want to fucking vomit.
People around here who think torture is cool or warranted need to watch this and grow a fucking heart and conscience.
30 minutes in, you learn about the so called "20th hijacker" whose heart destabilized and came near failure after he was kept on a 4 hour sleep schedule for 51 days straight. He was given an enema. He was given a 3 and a half bag saline IV and forced to pee his pants. He was sexualy moelsted by female officers to denigrate his faith. He was kept standing for 10 hours at a time and arms shackeled to the ceiling, with a K9 barking at him, loud noise blaring. He was left on a floor near the end of this treatment with the airconditioning turned up high and his blanket removed. It was at this point that his heart failed and he was rushed to the hospital.
You also learn about the guy named Dilawar who died after his legs were kicked so many times that they were literally "pulpified" ... turned in to liquid from the inside, and then inflamed from being shackled in standing position so long that he eventualy just died. Oh. And the guy was INNOCENT.
I can't express how fucking outraged this shit makes me. I get a knot in my stomach, tears in my eyes (not for the victims necesarily, but for our country, the ultimate victim), and i get the urge to fucking break something big.
The word that comes to my mind first and foremost is:
unconscionable
The next two are:
Geneva Convention
Then two more:
War Criminals
And One More:
Nuremberg
This movie makes me want to fucking vomit.
People around here who think torture is cool or warranted need to watch this and grow a fucking heart and conscience.
30 minutes in, you learn about the so called "20th hijacker" whose heart destabilized and came near failure after he was kept on a 4 hour sleep schedule for 51 days straight. He was given an enema. He was given a 3 and a half bag saline IV and forced to pee his pants. He was sexualy moelsted by female officers to denigrate his faith. He was kept standing for 10 hours at a time and arms shackeled to the ceiling, with a K9 barking at him, loud noise blaring. He was left on a floor near the end of this treatment with the airconditioning turned up high and his blanket removed. It was at this point that his heart failed and he was rushed to the hospital.
You also learn about the guy named Dilawar who died after his legs were kicked so many times that they were literally "pulpified" ... turned in to liquid from the inside, and then inflamed from being shackled in standing position so long that he eventualy just died. Oh. And the guy was INNOCENT.
I can't express how fucking outraged this shit makes me. I get a knot in my stomach, tears in my eyes (not for the victims necesarily, but for our country, the ultimate victim), and i get the urge to fucking break something big.
The word that comes to my mind first and foremost is:
unconscionable
The next two are:
Geneva Convention
Then two more:
War Criminals
And One More:
Nuremberg
If I was to smile and I held out my hand
If I opened it now would you not understand?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
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If I opened it now would you not understand?
Dude you're scaring me... Twice today I agree with you. Did your foil hat slip off??? Ha I'm kidding.
I can't watch this now, but I'm disgusted by our defense of torture. If they talk about a dude's legs getting liquified I don't want to see it anyway. It may be that no one is responding because not too many can defend heinous forms of torture...
"Sometimes I think I'd be better off dead. No, wait, not me, you." -Deep Toughts, Jack Handy
This is on my list to watch. Is it out on DVD yet or just through Bit Torrent?
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
I have nothing good to say after watching it also, and will probably be labeled an anti patriotic terrorist lover or something. I think you covered it.
The last couple of days I've been watching documentaries on Vietnam by John Pilger. Shameful how the western media has hollywood-ized the entire event to cover up what really happened there.
The media is complicit in covering up the most horrendous crimes.
If it isn't in the media...it never happened.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Roland what documentaries are those your watching, do you have a link?
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
we must recognize the problem is torture itself, and war to begin with. My uncle, a vietnam vet freaks out with the sound of dripping water, helicopter sounds, slamming doors, and being touched abruptly when sleeping, he'll literally flip out and cry.
so what do we do?
VOTE. please make our politicians accountable and vote.
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Who the hell said that?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
Who the hell said that?
I think the point is that when America does it, it is hypocritical to the extreme.
In fact the word hypocritical isn't even an accurate description of just how beneath us such actions are (or at least, in theory, should be)
Maybe ANTITHETICAL would be a better choice.
It is antithetical to the values of this country.
Anathema is another good choice.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
i highly recommend, especially to the flag wavers who think america can do no wrong.
(I have not seen this yet--just commenting).....
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you are probably right, but they interview the people who actually were doing the torturing and they fully admit to doing it.
one part that sticks out is a memo from a commanding officer to rumsfeld about the torture techniques. one of them was to have the detainees stand for four hours straight with their hands bound above their heads. rumsfeld handwrites back on the memo to the people in charge something to the effect of: "why only four hours? i stand at my desk eight hours everyday."
another interesting number was that only 7% of detainees were actually caught on the battlefield, the rest were turned in for a reward.
I know it's going to be an important movie to watch though, so I want to get to it hopefully this weekend.
It's a powerful doc man, it will move you.
This was in today's Washington Post....CIA Tactics Endorsed In Secret Memos: Waterboarding Got the White House Nod
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