"The Answer Is Impeachment" ... "There's No Running Away From That."

DriftingByTheStorm

What else can congress do?

Well.
Listen to a former representative ... right at the end of this clip.

THERE'S NO RUNNING AWAY.

DriftingByTheStorm

House Judiciary Committee Hearing on Executive Power & The Bush Administration

The whole thing.

know1

What would be the point of impeachment now....to give congress an excuse for not getting anything productive done at all? Lord knows they need one.

DriftingByTheStorm

know1 wrote:

What would be the point of impeachment now....to give congress an excuse for not getting anything productive done at all? Lord knows they need one.

I think the point is in the words that come before the "answer".

When questions arise over what to do about a president who deems himself ABOVE the law, and UNaccountable to ANY laws of the people (thus, making him a TYRANT), then there is no avoiding the plain truth ... the truth that IMPEACHMENT IS the answer.

I'm not saying this has any great relevance this close to a new election,
I'm saying that America needs to remember that THIS is and will REMAIN the answer.

That one can not expect to sheep away from the necessary duty, and hope to find some more "amicable" solution. The solution is to throw the motherfucker out!

Abookamongstthemany

know1 wrote:

What would be the point of impeachment now....to give congress an excuse for not getting anything productive done at all? Lord knows they need one.

A lot of harm can be done in a just a few months but the bigger reason is accountability. I believe people should be held accountable for their actions. It isn't about how long he has left in office...it's about the things he has done.

DriftingByTheStorm

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

A lot of harm can be done in a just a few months but the bigger reason is accountability. I believe people should be held accountable for their actions. It isn't about how long he has left in office...it's about the things he has done.

uh-huh

DriftingByTheStorm

Why This Matters: In 2 Minutes or Less

RolandTD20Kdrummer

easy go.....easy come again...

know1

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

A lot of harm can be done in a just a few months but the bigger reason is accountability. I believe people should be held accountable for their actions. It isn't about how long he has left in office...it's about the things he has done.

I don't believe he's done anything illegal (and neither do most people or this would have happened already).

Speaking of being accountable - have you turned yourself in for stealing government property yet?

polaris

know1 wrote:

I don't believe he's done anything illegal (and neither do most people or this would have happened already).

Speaking of being accountable - have you turned yourself in for stealing government property yet?

are you saying you've never once driven a car above the speed limit - have you turned yourself in? ... really - can we not be above posts like this here?

in any case - i hear this book lays out why he needs to be impeached

http://www.amazon.com/Prosecution-George-W-Bush-Murder/dp/159315481X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217248267&sr=1-1

know1

polaris wrote:

are you saying you've never once driven a car above the speed limit - have you turned yourself in? ... really - can we not be above posts like this here?

in any case - i hear this book lays out why he needs to be impeached

http://www.amazon.com/Prosecution-George-W-Bush-Murder/dp/159315481X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217248267&sr=1-1

Apparently we can't.

I wasn't calling for accountability, though. Nor have I admitted to being unremorseful about stealing.

cincybearcat

polaris wrote:

are you saying you've never once driven a car above the speed limit - have you turned yourself in? ... really - can we not be above posts like this here?

in any case - i hear this book lays out why he needs to be impeached

http://www.amazon.com/Prosecution-George-W-Bush-Murder/dp/159315481X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1217248267&sr=1-1

Dude it was a funny post.

When Abook and the Bong dude stole the sign...no one died!!!! I can hear the chant now!!!!

Of course, they stole some tax $.

Urban Hiker

know1 wrote:

What would be the point of impeachment now....to give congress an excuse for not getting anything productive done at all? Lord knows they need one.

I for one am glad there is (in most places) no statute of limitations on charging someone for murder.
Bush and Co. are war criminals. I want them held accountable for their actions.

fuck

know1 wrote:

I don't believe he's done anything illegal (and neither do most people or this would have happened already).

You don't believe Bush has done anything illegal?

does the English language allow that to be an actual sentence?

know1

_outlaw wrote:

You don't believe Bush has done anything illegal?

does the English language allow that to be an actual sentence?

What do you believe that he's done that is illegal?

Kann

know1 wrote:

I don't believe he's done anything illegal (and neither do most people or this would have happened already).

Speaking of being accountable - have you turned yourself in for stealing government property yet?

1 - I heard recieving the ultimate position from your fellow citizens calls for major responsibilities (=being held accountable for your actions) not only a cool house and free flights.
2 - Since just the "invading Iraq" part is illegal you can guess that what is done down there might be pushing some boundaries.

DriftingByTheStorm

know1 wrote:

What do you believe that he's done that is illegal?

PICK ONE:

Article I
Creating a Secret Propaganda Campaign to Manufacture a False Case for War Against Iraq.

Article II
Falsely, Systematically, and with Criminal Intent Conflating the Attacks of September 11, 2001, With Misrepresentation of Iraq as a Security Threat as Part of Fraudulent Justification for a War of Aggression.

Article III
Misleading the American People and Members of Congress to Believe Iraq Possessed Weapons of Mass Destruction, to Manufacture a False Case for War.

Article IV
Misleading the American People and Members of Congress to Believe Iraq Posed an Imminent Threat to the United States.

Article V
Illegally Misspending Funds to Secretly Begin a War of Aggression.

Article VI
Invading Iraq in Violation of the Requirements of HJRes114.

Article VII
Invading Iraq Absent a Declaration of War.

Article VIII
Invading Iraq, A Sovereign Nation, in Violation of the UN Charter.

Article IX
Failing to Provide Troops With Body Armor and Vehicle Armor

Article X
Falsifying Accounts of US Troop Deaths and Injuries for Political Purposes

Article XI
Establishment of Permanent U.S. Military Bases in Iraq

Article XII
Initiating a War Against Iraq for Control of That Nation's Natural Resources

Article XIIII
Creating a Secret Task Force to Develop Energy and Military Policies With Respect to Iraq and Other
Countries

Article XIV
Misprision of a Felony, Misuse and Exposure of Classified Information And Obstruction of Justice in the Matter of Valerie Plame Wilson, Clandestine Agent of the Central Intelligence Agency

Article XV
Providing Immunity from Prosecution for Criminal Contractors in Iraq

Article XVI
Reckless Misspending and Waste of U.S. Tax Dollars in Connection With Iraq and US Contractors

Article XVII
Illegal Detention: Detaining Indefinitely And Without Charge Persons Both U.S. Citizens and Foreign Captives

Article XVIII
Torture: Secretly Authorizing, and Encouraging the Use of Torture Against Captives in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Other Places, as a Matter of Official Policy

Article XIX
Rendition: Kidnapping People and Taking Them Against Their Will to "Black Sites" Located in Other Nations, Including Nations Known to Practice Torture

Article XX
Imprisoning Children

Article XXI
Misleading Congress and the American People About Threats from Iran, and Supporting Terrorist Organizations Within Iran, With the Goal of Overthrowing the Iranian Government

Article XXII
Creating Secret Laws

Article XXIII
Violation of the Posse Comitatus Act

Article XXIV
Spying on American Citizens, Without a Court-Ordered Warrant, in Violation of the Law and the Fourth Amendment

Article XXV
Directing Telecommunications Companies to Create an Illegal and Unconstitutional Database of the Private Telephone Numbers and Emails of American Citizens

Article XXVI
Announcing the Intent to Violate Laws with Signing Statements

Article XXVII
Failing to Comply with Congressional Subpoenas and Instructing Former Employees Not to Comply

Article XXVIII
Tampering with Free and Fair Elections, Corruption of the Administration of Justice

Article XXIX
Conspiracy to Violate the Voting Rights Act of 1965

Article XXX
Misleading Congress and the American People in an Attempt to Destroy Medicare

Article XXXI
Katrina: Failure to Plan for the Predicted Disaster of Hurricane Katrina, Failure to Respond to a Civil Emergency

Article XXXII
Misleading Congress and the American People, Systematically Undermining Efforts to Address Global Climate Change

Article XXXIII
Repeatedly Ignored and Failed to Respond to High Level Intelligence Warnings of Planned Terrorist Attacks in the US, Prior to 911.

Article XXXIV
Obstruction of the Investigation into the Attacks of September 11, 2001

Article XXXV
Endangering the Health of 911 First Responders

polaris

know1 wrote:

Apparently we can't.

I wasn't calling for accountability, though. Nor have I admitted to being unremorseful about stealing.

you're actually comparing an act of civil disobedience to what GWB has done in the last 8 years? Heck - maybe Rosa Parks should've turned herself in way back when.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

I think twice people already tried to make citizens arrests on Rove....he's officially in contempt of court.

You can guess what happened....they got arrested....not Rove.

Give these guys a free pass, and you'll get reinfected...probably a lot worse then the first rounds of infestation.

know1

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

PICK ONE:

Article I
Creating a Secret Propaganda Campaign to Manufacture a False Case for War Against Iraq.

Article II
Falsely, Systematically, and with Criminal Intent Conflating the Attacks of September 11, 2001, With Misrepresentation of Iraq as a Security Threat as Part of Fraudulent Justification for a War of Aggression.

Article III
Misleading the American People and Members of Congress to Believe Iraq Possessed Weapons of Mass Destruction, to Manufacture a False Case for War.

Article IV
Misleading the American People and Members of Congress to Believe Iraq Posed an Imminent Threat to the United States.

Article V
Illegally Misspending Funds to Secretly Begin a War of Aggression.

Article VI
Invading Iraq in Violation of the Requirements of HJRes114.

Article VII
Invading Iraq Absent a Declaration of War.

Article VIII
Invading Iraq, A Sovereign Nation, in Violation of the UN Charter.

Article IX
Failing to Provide Troops With Body Armor and Vehicle Armor

Article X
Falsifying Accounts of US Troop Deaths and Injuries for Political Purposes

Article XI
Establishment of Permanent U.S. Military Bases in Iraq

Article XII
Initiating a War Against Iraq for Control of That Nation's Natural Resources

Article XIIII
Creating a Secret Task Force to Develop Energy and Military Policies With Respect to Iraq and Other
Countries

Article XIV
Misprision of a Felony, Misuse and Exposure of Classified Information And Obstruction of Justice in the Matter of Valerie Plame Wilson, Clandestine Agent of the Central Intelligence Agency

Article XV
Providing Immunity from Prosecution for Criminal Contractors in Iraq

Article XVI
Reckless Misspending and Waste of U.S. Tax Dollars in Connection With Iraq and US Contractors

Article XVII
Illegal Detention: Detaining Indefinitely And Without Charge Persons Both U.S. Citizens and Foreign Captives

Article XVIII
Torture: Secretly Authorizing, and Encouraging the Use of Torture Against Captives in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Other Places, as a Matter of Official Policy

Article XIX
Rendition: Kidnapping People and Taking Them Against Their Will to "Black Sites" Located in Other Nations, Including Nations Known to Practice Torture

Article XX
Imprisoning Children

Article XXI
Misleading Congress and the American People About Threats from Iran, and Supporting Terrorist Organizations Within Iran, With the Goal of Overthrowing the Iranian Government

Article XXII
Creating Secret Laws

Article XXIII
Violation of the Posse Comitatus Act

Article XXIV
Spying on American Citizens, Without a Court-Ordered Warrant, in Violation of the Law and the Fourth Amendment

Article XXV
Directing Telecommunications Companies to Create an Illegal and Unconstitutional Database of the Private Telephone Numbers and Emails of American Citizens

Article XXVI
Announcing the Intent to Violate Laws with Signing Statements

Article XXVII
Failing to Comply with Congressional Subpoenas and Instructing Former Employees Not to Comply

Article XXVIII
Tampering with Free and Fair Elections, Corruption of the Administration of Justice

Article XXIX
Conspiracy to Violate the Voting Rights Act of 1965

Article XXX
Misleading Congress and the American People in an Attempt to Destroy Medicare

Article XXXI
Katrina: Failure to Plan for the Predicted Disaster of Hurricane Katrina, Failure to Respond to a Civil Emergency

Article XXXII
Misleading Congress and the American People, Systematically Undermining Efforts to Address Global Climate Change

Article XXXIII
Repeatedly Ignored and Failed to Respond to High Level Intelligence Warnings of Planned Terrorist Attacks in the US, Prior to 911.

Article XXXIV
Obstruction of the Investigation into the Attacks of September 11, 2001

Article XXXV
Endangering the Health of 911 First Responders

Now how many of those are truly illegal?

know1

polaris wrote:

you're actually comparing an act of civil disobedience to what GWB has done in the last 8 years? Heck - maybe Rosa Parks should've turned herself in way back when.

Nope. Just calling out someone who is professing a belief in accountability (apparently only when it goes against their beliefs, though).