Honestly, how lucky is Pearl Jam to have had 3 great drummers.

nowayimfaithfullnowayimfaithfull Posts: 2,051
edited April 2008 in The Porch
Most bands cant fill 1 spot when a guy quits, dies, or gets kicked out.
Shit they went from Dave A. who was good enough in the studio and live, to Jack who elevated their studio work to a super high level, to Matt who elevated their touring to ultra.
Most bands do not get this lucky!
We never discuss this, its always who is better and who sucks, when in reality they all were great.
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  • WEAPONX24WEAPONX24 Posts: 133
    I think their work with Dave A. was by far the best...jack and matt are alright, but the intensity seemed to be a lot higher with Dave A.
  • gobrowns19gobrowns19 Posts: 1,447
    Technically it went Matt-Dave K-Dave A-Jack-Matt again :p:D
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  • LONGRDLONGRD Posts: 6,036
    WEAPONX24 wrote:
    I think their work with Dave A. was by far the best...jack and matt are alright, but the intensity seemed to be a lot hight with Dave A.
    Dave Abbruzzese wasn't the reason for their early success!!! Grunge was!

    Jack and Matt brought out the best of the band into new dimensions.
    PJ- 04/29/2003.06/24,25,27,28,30/2008.10/27,28,30,31/2009
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  • joebotjoebot Posts: 372
    gobrowns19 wrote:
    Technically it went Matt-Dave K-Dave A-Jack-Matt again :p:D

    Actually the first Matt was Matt Chamberlain not Matt Cameron.
  • LONGRDLONGRD Posts: 6,036
    gobrowns19 wrote:
    Technically it went Matt-Dave K-Dave A-Jack-Matt again :p:D
    Dave K, Matt Chamberlain, Dave A, Jack, Matt Cam
    PJ- 04/29/2003.06/24,25,27,28,30/2008.10/27,28,30,31/2009
    EV- 08/09,10/2008.06/08,09/2009
  • beachdwellerbeachdweller Posts: 1,532
    Dave A is so great he disappeared, I think PJ has been just fine without him, and were plenty intense before and after him. Jack and Matt, especially Matt, who brought the whole thing full circle, are special.
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  • SpeakersSpeakers Posts: 252
    Dave A is so great he disappeared, I think PJ has been just fine without him, and were plenty intense before and after him. Jack and Matt, especially Matt, who brought the whole thing full circle, are special.

    If you weren't lucky enough to see Dave A., listen to a few bootlegs from the time. You'll understand what people are talking about and the kind of energy he brought.
  • Oz JammerOz Jammer Posts: 9,858
    joebot wrote:
    Actually the first Matt was Matt Chamberlain not Matt Cameron.

    Matt Cameron was the first because he was the drummer on Stone's original demo tape
  • Niko80Niko80 Posts: 1,601
    Pearl Jam has been lucky with the drummer spot yes!

    Dave A was the shit though! He was also a very likable guy, he was just unlucky to be in the wrong band.

    I remember reading about when ten went gold. Jeff had mentioned it during a dinner out and everyone was just 'oh wow, thats cool' and nothing more. Just a 'oh by the way' that came and went. Dave was so excited about that news that he had to leave the table, call up his drum technician and they would go up to their hotel room to celebrate by jumping up and down on the hotel bed for hours. That was the kind of person he was.. Alot of fans were devastated when Dave got fired. Kelly Curtis called it a mutual separation though, but Dave told the media he got fired.

    Sorry to bring up Dave again, but I feel he is being unfairly treated by some people here.
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  • WEAPONX24WEAPONX24 Posts: 133
    Niko80 wrote:
    Pearl Jam has been lucky with the drummer spot yes!

    Dave A was the shit though! He was also a very likable guy, he was just unlucky to be in the wrong band.

    I remember reading about when ten went gold. Jeff had mentioned it during a dinner out and everyone was just 'oh wow, thats cool' and nothing more. Just a 'oh by the way' that came and went. Dave was so excited about that news that he had to leave the table, call up his drum technician and they would go up to their hotel room to celebrate by jumping up and down on the hotel bed for hours. That was the kind of person he was.. Alot of fans were devastated when Dave got fired. Kelly Curtis called it a mutual separation though, but Dave told the media he got fired.

    Sorry to bring up Dave again, but I feel he is being unfairly treated by some people here.

    i agree 110%!!! Dave A. was the man!!!
  • LONGRDLONGRD Posts: 6,036
    Niko80 wrote:
    Pearl Jam has been lucky with the drummer spot yes!

    Dave A was the shit though! He was also a very likable guy, he was just unlucky to be in the wrong band.

    I remember reading about when ten went gold. Jeff had mentioned it during a dinner out and everyone was just 'oh wow, thats cool' and nothing more. Just a 'oh by the way' that came and went. Dave was so excited about that news that he had to leave the table, call up his drum technician and they would go up to their hotel room to celebrate by jumping up and down on the hotel bed for hours. That was the kind of person he was.. Alot of fans were devastated when Dave got fired. Kelly Curtis called it a mutual separation though, but Dave told the media he got fired.

    Sorry to bring up Dave again, but I feel he is being unfairly treated by some people here.
    Good post, based on some of the readings on him, he seems like a drummer who would be in bands like Foo Fighters, U2, Queens OTSA, bands that aren't so intense.

    Might even worked as a drummer for Pearl Jam(06-present) since they seem to have become more at ease.
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  • Stone IronsStone Irons Posts: 430
    Oz Jammer wrote:
    Matt Cameron was the first because he was the drummer on Stone's original demo tape

    Chris Friel from Shadow (Mike McCready's old band) drummed on that tape as well.
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  • Niko80Niko80 Posts: 1,601
    LongRd. wrote:
    Good post, based on some of the readings on him, he seems like a drummer who would be in bands like Foo Fighters, U2, Queens OTSA, bands that aren't so intense.

    Might even worked as a drummer for Pearl Jam(06-present) since they seem to have become more at ease.

    Yeah, I agree. Pearl Jam was way too serious for him. Funny you mentioned foo fighters cause Dave got fired right around the time Dave Grohl was making the foo lineup. Maybe Dave A was in the consideration? He was one of the hottest drummers at that point and must have gotten a shitload of offers.
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  • YourDirtisMyfoodYourDirtisMyfood Boston Posts: 4,644
    did chamberlain really leave to play in the saturday night live band? And whatever happened to Krusen?
  • WEAPONX24 wrote:
    I think their work with Dave A. was by far the best...jack and matt are alright, but the intensity seemed to be a lot higher with Dave A.


    Wow I jhave to lay off the beer, I am cruising thru the page and forgot I put this up, I was like this post is good I was thinking the same thing and realized I put it up.

    Now Yes the band was more angry when Dave was in the band, more creative with Jack, and tours more funtionly with Matt.
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  • gobrowns19 wrote:
    Technically it went Matt-Dave K-Dave A-Jack-Matt again :p:D


    the other 2 didnt contribute enough, with matt working on the demos, it was almost fill in for the first dave.
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  • LongRd. wrote:
    Dave Abbruzzese wasn't the reason for their early success!!! Grunge was!

    Jack and Matt brought out the best of the band into new dimensions.


    Yes but Dave did alot of shows and his work on vs is great, and the band was made over his time in the band, he was a gear in works.
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  • joebot wrote:
    Actually the first Matt was Matt Chamberlain not Matt Cameron.


    Wrong matt cam did the demos with them.
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  • Niko80 wrote:
    Yeah, I agree. Pearl Jam was way too serious for him. Funny you mentioned foo fighters cause Dave got fired right around the time Dave Grohl was making the foo lineup. Maybe Dave A was in the consideration? He was one of the hottest drummers at that point and must have gotten a shitload of offers.


    There are also stories floating around that grohl was going to drum in pj.
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  • did chamberlain really leave to play in the saturday night live band? And whatever happened to Krusen?


    krusen was with candlebox, chamberlin did leave, and i was told on here he drums for tori amos

    The key fact here is Dave A. has his place, he did a great job for them, if they stuck with krusen or got some shitty drummer it may have affected vs, that is to this day prob one of the strongest albums ever released for a rock band with out being metal or punk. They fused togehter great sound on that album and dave was a part of that.
    Jack there would be no pj without him, and they may have broke up,
    Aned never have had the rebirth with their music
    nor the rebirth with touring without matt.
    without matt we would not be going to shows and looking foward to tours like we do every yeear, and the band would prob not play as long or as tight, they would have had to get lucky for this to happen without him.
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  • dannydanny Posts: 2,279
    Most bands cant fill 1 spot when a guy quits, dies, or gets kicked out.
    Shit they went from Dave A. who was good enough in the studio and live, to Jack who elevated their studio work to a super high level, to Matt who elevated their touring to ultra.
    Most bands do not get this lucky!
    We never discuss this, its always who is better and who sucks, when in reality they all were great.


    very lucky!
    danny d
  • PrePre Posts: 17
    Yeah, they're pretty lucky, even though I'm not really a fan of Dave A.'s style (it always seemed to me like he hit his cymbals more than his drums). Jack was really amazing in the studio and Matt is just awesome all-around.
  • given2fly10given2fly10 Posts: 485
    i love what all 3 bought to this band. each one of them made there own mark. how many bands can have 3 good drummers. weather you like dave, or jack or matt. you should respect them all cause there part of a great american rock n rollband .






    mighty jack fucking irons is my fav drummer
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  • YourDirtisMyfoodYourDirtisMyfood Boston Posts: 4,644
    i love what all 3 bought to this band. each one of them made there own mark. how many bands can have 3 good drummers. weather you like dave, or jack or matt. you should respect them all cause there part of a great american rock n rollband .






    mighty jack fucking irons is my fav drummer

    It's like when a baseball team has 3 very good catchers. Very fortunate.
  • aratarat Posts: 7
    pj are indeed very lucky to have had 3 great drummers. i loved dave a. but my theory on the love affair w/ dave a. is that fact that when the majority of us discovered and fell in love w/ pj, he was the drummer. i feel like his playing style helped define their sound as much as the loose groove riffs stone was overflowing w/. he took what dave k. had done and took it to the next level. and then when ed started to take over writing a majority of the songs, the drumming style needed to change. jack and matt are incredible and they best complement ed's writing style. each is great in their own respect. but that's just my 2 cents.
  • It's like when a baseball team has 3 very good catchers. Very fortunate.


    exactly
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  • arat wrote:
    pj are indeed very lucky to have had 3 great drummers. i loved dave a. but my theory on the love affair w/ dave a. is that fact that when the majority of us discovered and fell in love w/ pj, he was the drummer. i feel like his playing style helped define their sound as much as the loose groove riffs stone was overflowing w/. he took what dave k. had done and took it to the next level. and then when ed started to take over writing a majority of the songs, the drumming style needed to change. jack and matt are incredible and they best complement ed's writing style. each is great in their own respect. but that's just my 2 cents.


    very true, but krusen really didnt right any of the songs with them, some, but matt helped them in the beggining, and the sty changed for the better instantly when dave a joined, krusens drums were over produced a lil, he seemed like a sit in drummer on that album, his work on evenflow was basically coppying camerons cymbol trapping, pretty much throughout, but he did have a sleight differance I honestly think for the worse.
    That is why they were lucky to get dave a. at that point.
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