Chris Benoit death story just got A LOT stranger!
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Um, WTF does this mean???? This story just got a WHOLE lot bigger:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,287194,00.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,287194,00.html
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muscle retards the lot of them
Did you even click the link? Has nothing to do with that...its very bizarre news.
ps- I could careless about wrestling too.
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
which means you do care a bit... the correct phrase is "couldn't care less"
yeah i did click it... weird shit :(
So Benoit could not have done this himself?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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The bodies were found in Fayetteville Georgia.
The edits were from Australia and Connecticut.
So, even if he made the one edit from Conn. he'd have to have driven across like 7 states to get to Georgia to kill his wife.
It just doesn't add up.
I don't know how IP #'s work, but if his personal computer was WWE property, would it have a Connecticut IP address and go through their servers?
See, I have no idea what I'm talking about here.
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
Internet question for you - WWE's office's are in Stamford, CT... if he had a computer at home that was tied trough WWE's server somehow, would his IP address show up in Stamford or where he actually is?
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
The Australian edit is much queerer, it originates from fixed wireless broadband in Sydney, Australia, a company called Unwired Australia, which is probably an ISP, but I doubt they provide service to U.S. customers.
Yeah he could have used Citrix, Terminal Server, PCanywhere or the like. However there would be system logs aside from using PCanywhere. He could have anonymized his browser through an internet proxy server as well.
I wonder if he was known to be computer savvy at all?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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Did he post this information himself, which is sick and twisted (as if any of this story isn't) or did someone know about it before the police did?
Frankly the idea that he strangled his wife, and killed his son (the next day?) and then hung himself in such slow progression dosn't make sense to me. I can't imagine what was going on in that house during those hours.
Then again, he's not the first wrestler to finally go nuts after all the steroids, unfortunately he probably won't be the last.
Would computer forensics be able to detect all of these eventually? Or is there no way to tell where the post originated from?
I think the point of this article is that someone may have know what happened before the police found the bodies, thus they may have somehow been involved or, notified by him before he killed himself? Maybe some E-mail suicide note that someone is hanging onto?
There is always a trace
Two more sinister options (if that is possible)
1. An initial attempt by the WWE to cover it up (i.e. Benoit contacted them to tell them what happens and they tried to figure something out);
2. The last paragraph of the article mentions another wrestler killed on June 15 with ties to Benoit's wife....is there something bigger happening here?
Wikinews has learned through an investigation that anonymous edits on the Wikipedia article Chris Benoit were added about the death of his wife Nancy Benoit 14 hours before police entered the Benoit home to find the former professional World Wrestling Entertainment (WWE) Canadian wrestler and his family dead.
An anonymous edit from IP address 69.120.111.23 using the Internet service provider Optimum Online was made at 04:01 UTC on Chris Benoit's Wikipedia article. On a paragraph about an earlier fight: "However, Chris Benoit was replaced ... due to personal issues,...", the anonymous editor added " stemming from the death of his wife Nancy." The edit was reversed just under one hour later with the comment: "Need a reliable source. Saying that his wife died is a pretty big statement, you need to back it up with something."
Then just one hour later after the first edit reversion, another anonymous edit by 125.63.148.173 using unwiredAustralia.com.au, a wireless Internet service provider, was made adding about the aforementioned personal issues: "which according to several pro wrestling websites is attributed to the passing of Benoit's wife, Nancy." That edit was reverted just under 20 minutes later, with the comment: "Saying 'several pro wrestling websites' is still not reliable information."
Further investigation shows that the IP address used to make the first edit is located in Connecticut, but the IP address is not linked to any computers or servers used by the WWE, but according to Cary Bass, Volunteer Coordinator for the Wikimedia Foundation, the IP address matches a location in Stamford, Connecticut where the WWE headquarters is located. Bass also informed the local authorities in Atlanta about the unusual edits, but it is not known if the edits were investigated by the police. The second edit was made by a computer in Australia from a wireless network.
"It didn't become apparent until someone put the pieces together and realized that the comment was made by someone who apparently knew about the murders," added Bass.
Fayette County Sheriff deputy Lt. Tommy Pope stated that police found the family at about 2:30 p.m. ET, which is 18:30 UTC, on Monday when the WWE called police and asked them to do a "welfare check" after employees of WWE received calls and text messages from Chris Benoit. Early Sunday, Benoit sent repeated text messages that read "My physical address is 130 Green Meadow Lane, Fayetteville Georgia. 30215." Another text message reportedly said "The dogs are in the enclosed pool area. Garage side door is open." The messages were sent around 4:00 a.m. ET.
Earlier, on Saturday afternoon, Chris Benoit placed a series of calls that explained why he missed his flight to Houston. The stories he told were mostly about his wife and son being sick with food poisoning and vomiting. Although, in one call he said that he and Nancy were at the hospital to be with Daniel who was hospitalized. Throughout he insisted that he would attend that live event in Houston.
When he missed the live event on Sunday, and the WWE couldn't get a hold of him, they contacted authorities. Police say that Benoit strangled his wife on Friday, smothered his son on late Friday or early Saturday, and then hanged himself inside his weight room on Sunday or Monday.
The Wikinews investigation is unable to conclude whether the anonymous editors had inside information about the death of Nancy Benoit.
This is not the first time Benoit's article has been edited to show false or unsourced information, as the article's edit history indicates a long history of promotional spam and vandalism. Around the time of the edits, the article contained a hidden warning to editors of the section mentioned, warning against adding rumours and speculations . For the time being, Benoit's article has been protected in an attempt to stop the addition of fraudulent information.
The TCP packets can be traced successfully depending on the number of router "hops". If one part in the "chain" or "route" does not have logging enabled then it's going to be more of a problem (potentially totally impossible). Depending on the sophistication of the program he may have used, and server logging across the route, it could become quite complicated.
If things bounce through other (multiple) countries the process again slows and complicates considerably!
This will be interesting to monitor.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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That's true, but I don't think the IP 125.63.148.173 is a proxy address.
It's traced to status "ALLOCATED PORTABLE", I'm not sure what that means exactly
I can't find a proxy address for unwiredaustralia.com.au or unwired.com.au
inetnum: 125.63.128.0 - 125.63.255.255
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descr: Fixed Wireless Broadband Access
country: AU
admin-c: RL39-AP
tech-c: RL39-AP
status: ALLOCATED PORTABLE
mnt-by: APNIC-HM
mnt-lower: MAINT-AU-UNWIRED
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remarks: This object can only be updated by APNIC hostmasters.
remarks: To update this object, please contact APNIC
remarks: hostmasters and include your organisation's account
remarks: name in the subject line.
remarks: -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-++-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
changed: hm-changed@apnic.net 20050831
changed: hm-changed@apnic.net 20051212
source: APNIC
person: Roger Lienert
nic-hdl: RL39-AP
e-mail: roger.lienert@unwiredaustralia.com.au
address: Level 10, 15 castlereagh St
address: Sydney, NSW, 2000
phone: +61-2-9231 6055
fax-no: +61-2-9231 6044
country: AU
changed: roger.lienert@unwiredaustralia.com.au 20031202
mnt-by: MAINT-NEW
source: APNIC\
They are also allocated this range, which hosts their name servers at 210.101.191.18 and .19
inetnum: 220.101.0.0 - 220.101.191.255
netname: UNWIRED
descr: Unwired Australia
descr: Fixed Wireless Broadband Access Internet Service Provider
country: AU
admin-c: RL39-AP
tech-c: RL39-AP
status: ALLOCATED PORTABLE
mnt-by: APNIC-HM
mnt-lower: MAINT-AU-UNWIRED
remarks: -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
remarks: This object can only be modified by APNIC hostmaster
remarks: If you wish to modify this object details please
remarks: send email to hostmaster@apnic.net with your organisation
remarks: account name in the subject line.
remarks: -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
changed: hm-changed@apnic.net 20040128
source: APNIC
person: Roger Lienert
nic-hdl: RL39-AP
e-mail: roger.lienert@unwiredaustralia.com.au
address: Level 10, 15 castlereagh St
address: Sydney, NSW, 2000
phone: +61-2-9231 6055
fax-no: +61-2-9231 6044
country: AU
changed: roger.lienert@unwiredaustralia.com.au 20031202
mnt-by: MAINT-NEW
source: APNIC
It's anyones guess what IP's their proxy servers are at however it's usually allocated within the first few IP's from the start of the range, but it can be anywhere within the scope of IP's.
The IP you provided looks like a dynamicaly assigned local user address. Interesting that it is wireless. Strange. It's all guesswork until I can look at their servers.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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But would that person have implicated themselves as an accessory to murder by posting in Wiki?
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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Martel's death barely got any press coverage here in Birmingham, Alabama, where she died.
I don't think that will ever get old
was like a picture
of a sunny day
“We can complain because rose bushes have thorns, or rejoice because thorn bushes have roses.”
― Abraham Lincoln
Yea, that's the info I was looking at too.
I'm with you on this one, we won't know until the police reports come back.
Actually for once since the age of 10 wrestling has become of interest to me.
How ironic it is caused by the the death of part of it.
I think they are going to get a packet trace personally. My bets is that the situation is/was not computer savvy enough to spoof the IP.
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg
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( o.O)
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-Greg Dulli
I've never taken an interest in wrestling either. A girl I'm seeing mentioned the story to me when it first hit the news and I've kept on it because it's interesting.
I agree that the character Benoit does not sound like a mentally stable person and probably didn't have the integrity to study up on the dynamics of the internet. It would seem to me that perhaps Benoit was being influenced by a chat partner on the internet. Or perhaps even involved in a chat group who had privy to the information and perhaps even unintentionally encouraged the murder-suicide. An alternative hypotheses is that someone else entirely commit the crime and edited the wiki article, but that seems rather unlikely. It also seems rather unlikely that Benoit would have made these decisions alone without outside influence.
We've seen from other situations, like the man who hung himself while broadcasting to a chat room, that people in chat rooms can be particularly careless and disconnected from the people they are chatting to and actually encourage behaviour they normally wouldn't.