Will Iraq ever take the damn baton?

aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
edited July 2007 in A Moving Train
It's like we're in a relay race with them on our team, but they keep running away from us as we try to get closer to them to hand them the damn baton!

Fucking step the hell up and take over your country, Iraq. We're tired of doing it for you.

Yeah, yeah I know; if we hadn't invaded your country in the first place, you wouldn't be where you are at now. And I agree, we shouldn't have invaded. However, we can't change that and now you MUST take back over your country so we can get the hell outta there!!
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  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    Why should they? If I'm average Joe Iraqi... why would i go out on patrol and risk getting killed when there are Americans better equipped and better trained to do so? Let them get their fool ass blowed up... i'm just fine sitting on my ass.
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  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    Maybe they are trying to. But the "Coalition" considers them terrorists.
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,052
    No, they are weak.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    No, they are weak.
    ...
    Does anyone remember how the Iraqis performed in the 1991 Gulf War? In the 2003 Invasion? Their weapon of choice is the White Flag.
    Why do we think they will all of a sudden want to risk their lives now?
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    you cant take the baton if no one hands it to you...
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    Their weapon of choice is the White Flag.

    that was funny
  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    aNiMaL wrote:
    It's like we're in a relay race with them on our team, but they keep running away from us as we try to get closer to them to hand them the damn baton!

    Fucking step the hell up and take over your country, Iraq. We're tired of doing it for you.

    Yeah, yeah I know; if we hadn't invaded your country in the first place, you wouldn't be where you are at now. And I agree, we shouldn't have invaded. However, we can't change that and now you MUST take back over your country so we can get the hell outta there!!

    Step up? who? there are competing camps. They want all want to step up. They will step up when we let them. They will compete and then there will be an Iraq. right now they are not allowed to compete save for the camps the occupying nation approves.

    There is no Iraq right now - only land conquered and claimed but the US. We must either leave or perhaps petition Iraq for statehood.
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,052
    I don't know that the Iraqi people will step up because they do not know what they would get for themselves or their children. You all hate Starbucks on every corner, but if these people knew that if they stood up for themselves and their neighbors that one of their descendants' main worries would be having too many Starbucks and McDonalds, they may just get their act together. (That sentence probably did not have correct grammar)

    I think the sign that you hate America is when you cringe at the thought of making Iraq more like us (you know, the ones who can go to the supermarket and not get their arm blown off).
  • AhnimusAhnimus Posts: 10,560
    I think the sign that you hate America is when you cringe at the thought of making Iraq more like us (you know, the ones who can go to the supermarket and not get their arm blown off).

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  • AbuskedtiAbuskedti Posts: 1,917
    I don't know that the Iraqi people will step up because they do not know what they would get for themselves or their children. You all hate Starbucks on every corner, but if these people knew that if they stood up for themselves and their neighbors that one of their descendants' main worries would be having too many Starbucks and McDonalds, they may just get their act together. (That sentence probably did not have correct grammar)

    I think the sign that you hate America is when you cringe at the thought of making Iraq more like us (you know, the ones who can go to the supermarket and not get their arm blown off).

    Making Iraq more like us by killing them until they act like us? If you don't want this you hate America?
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,052
    Abuskedti wrote:
    Making Iraq more like us by killing them until they act like us? If you don't want this you hate America?

    No, when you cringe that we are trying to make Iraq more like America. Killing or not. Just the thought of another country being like us making you cringe. That is a sign that you hate America.

    P.S. The fact that you cringe when people call the USA "America" is another reason why you hate America.
  • Bu2Bu2 Posts: 1,693
    No, when you cringe that we are trying to make Iraq more like America. Killing or not. Just the thought of another country being like us making you cringe. That is a sign that you hate America.

    P.S. The fact that you cringe when people call the USA "America" is another reason why you hate America.

    This is supposed to make as much sense as the goddamn occupation of Iraq, eh?

    We, the US, helped put Saddam in power many years ago, did we not? But that's beside the point.

    We, the US, were attacked by Osama bin Ladin back in 2001, were we not? But that's beside the point.

    We, the US, have made the War on Terror our main goal ever since, have we not? But that's beside the point.

    We, the US, have let our president and vice president rape our Constitution and take over our Department of Justice, have we not? But that's beside the point.

    I don't know about all of YOU, but I myself just want to stand right beside the point.

    So that I can kick that point right in the point that hurts.
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 16,052
    Bu2 wrote:
    This is supposed to make as much sense as the goddamn occupation of Iraq, eh?

    We, the US, helped put Saddam in power many years ago, did we not? But that's beside the point.

    We, the US, were attacked by Osama bin Ladin back in 2001, were we not? But that's beside the point.

    We, the US, have made the War on Terror our main goal ever since, have we not? But that's beside the point.

    We, the US, have let our president and vice president rape our Constitution and take over our Department of Justice, have we not? But that's beside the point.

    I don't know about all of YOU, but I myself just want to stand right beside the point.

    So that I can kick that point right in the point that hurts.

    Well, vote in new leaders. It's America. I like it. Take away all those points you made and you still would complain because they built a Starbucks in your neighborhood. When you love something you take it with its faults. You should try to fix its major problems. When you hate something you'll always find something no matter how small to complain about.
  • KannKann Posts: 1,146
    aNiMaL wrote:
    It's like we're in a relay race with them on our team, but they keep running away from us as we try to get closer to them to hand them the damn baton!

    Fucking step the hell up and take over your country, Iraq. We're tired of doing it for you.

    Yeah, yeah I know; if we hadn't invaded your country in the first place, you wouldn't be where you are at now. And I agree, we shouldn't have invaded. However, we can't change that and now you MUST take back over your country so we can get the hell outta there!!

    It kind of hard to do that with chopped off hands.
    Nah, I get what you say. This thing sucks for everybody : runners are tired of running and the public is tired of watching.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    No, when you cringe that we are trying to make Iraq more like America. Killing or not. Just the thought of another country being like us making you cringe. That is a sign that you hate America.

    P.S. The fact that you cringe when people call the USA "America" is another reason why you hate America.


    ok, if you can say he hates america, then i can say your a fucking idiot

    dissent does not equal hate, so give up with that shit. or just back in line and enjoy the cherry flavored kool aid being served to you

    dissent is the pivotal key to democracy and freedom, whether you can grasp the concept or not
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    No, they are weak.


    funny, they had people like you shaking in your boots prior to the 2003 invasion, enough so to support a preemptive invasion when they posed no threat in reality

    funny how your guys tune changes with the wind... 2003 mushroom clouds will be the smoking gun, now they are weak. make your mind up :rolleyes:
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    No, when you cringe that we are trying to make Iraq more like America. Killing or not. Just the thought of another country being like us making you cringe. That is a sign that you hate America.

    so who made us like them when we formed this great country? oh, thats right. no one.

    what a joke


    once you understand the administration and it's corporate interests are only interested in oil and profit, and care nothing about iraqi freedom or starbucks, the better off you will be in understanding this conflict and our role. sorry dude, thats the fucking fact of the matter. i know it breaks your heart, but its the truth
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,495
    my2hands wrote:
    funny, they had people like you shaking in your boots prior to the 2003 invasion, enough so to support a preemptive invasion when they posed no threat in reality

    funny how your guys tune changes with the wind... 2003 mushroom clouds will be the smoking gun, now they are weak. make your mind up :rolleyes:


    That's not really true. I think the real concern was more so that Saddam had WMDs that could be sold or given to terrorist organizations to carry out attacks. Not scared of the Iraqi army.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,495
    my2hands wrote:
    ok, if you can say he hates america, then i can say your a fucking idiot

    dissent does not equal hate, so give up with that shit. or just back in line and enjoy the cherry flavored kool aid being served to you

    dissent is the pivotal key to democracy and freedom, whether you can grasp the concept or not

    Enjoy your lime flavored kool-aid of dissent. ;) Being told what to hate.

    Enough with the kool-aid, everyone's drinking some.
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  • That's not really true. I think the real concern was more so that Saddam had WMDs that could be sold or given to terrorist organizations to carry out attacks. Not scared of the Iraqi army.


    Which of course would never happen.
    He had since 1979 to do it. And never did. And never would.
    But hey - war based on hypotheticals and flimsy/concocted evidence by people on the US payroll (ahem - Chalabi) is easier than being a real leader.
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  • JackieboyJackieboy Posts: 78
    This kind of opinions upset me quite alot. US should stay for the next ten years or so until the situation in Iraq has stabilized. Did you know that about 50-100 ppl die from terrorist acts in Iraq everyday? You guys are complaining about 3000 dead soldiers while some say that the civilian casualty toll is about 500 000... SCREW YOU! I mean it. FUCK YOU! You owe the Iraqis all and everything. They never asked you to come over the ocean and bring them chaos and misery did they? NO it's because of stupid americans who watch Fox News and the likes of it, don't know jack about muslims and the middle east. There was never a link between Saddam and Al Qaida. Quite the opposite, Saddam was afraid of religion and the part it played in everyday-life in some of the countries in the Middle East. What YOU did, was starting a war because you were scared and ignorant. You let CIA, the government and the military execute an act called the Military-Industrial Complex, which I hope you've heard of before. Please, think before you post!
  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    I don't know that the Iraqi people will step up because they do not know what they would get for themselves or their children. You all hate Starbucks on every corner, but if these people knew that if they stood up for themselves and their neighbors that one of their descendants' main worries would be having too many Starbucks and McDonalds, they may just get their act together. (That sentence probably did not have correct grammar)

    I think the sign that you hate America is when you cringe at the thought of making Iraq more like us (you know, the ones who can go to the supermarket and not get their arm blown off).
    WTF are you talking about Starbucks and McDonald's for? I don't follow your train of thought at all. I have never once said I hate Starbucks on every corner. I think you have me mixed up with a stereo type concocted in your head.
  • aNiMaLaNiMaL Posts: 7,117
    No, when you cringe that we are trying to make Iraq more like America. Killing or not. Just the thought of another country being like us making you cringe. That is a sign that you hate America.
    No, the thought of us forcing our way of life on a different nation against their will makes me hate the direction our current administration is taking this country that I love. That's a huge distinction.
    P.S. The fact that you cringe when people call the USA "America" is another reason why you hate America.
    I don't cringe at that...and again, WTF are you talking about? It's almost like you are replying to a different thread in this one. :confused:
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    I don't know that the Iraqi people will step up because they do not know what they would get for themselves or their children. You all hate Starbucks on every corner, but if these people knew that if they stood up for themselves and their neighbors that one of their descendants' main worries would be having too many Starbucks and McDonalds, they may just get their act together. (That sentence probably did not have correct grammar)

    I think the sign that you hate America is when you cringe at the thought of making Iraq more like us (you know, the ones who can go to the supermarket and not get their arm blown off).
    ...
    There is is kiddies... the basic flaw in the entire U.S. Foriegn Relations. The simple assumption that everyone else either wants to be like us... or that if they were like us, all of their problems would disappear.
    Maybe if we helped Iraqis build their own country in the manner in which THEY choose whose blueprints to follow, we wouldn't be getting all tangled up in their bullshit.
    What if Iraqis want a Fundamentalist Theocracy that follows Shria Law? Should we force them into a society that fits our wants... or theirs?
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