Palin alienating a McCain demographic?

darkcrow

Just an interesting thought...

http://gawker.com/5048745/sarah-palin-nightmare-of-the-centrist-male-mccain-fan-with-actual-brains

Former Republican Senator Lincoln Chafee gave a speech today and got a lot of laughs when he said this about Sarah Palin: "People were coming into my office, phone calls were flooding in, e-mails were coming in, 'I just sent money to Obama, I couldn't sleep last night' — from the left. To see this cocky wacko up there." Now, Chafee was never that convincing a Republican, but here's the thing: neither, for the vast majority of his career anyway, was John McCain. And if Palin energizes the Republican base, she's sure as hell alienating a huge portion of the John McCain base. Let's call them "Angry White Men With Working Brain Cells."* My brother is one; he used to have a mild hardon for McCain; this morning I got an email from him about some Palin nightmare he had last night followed an hour later by an email from the Obama campaign informing me he'd donated a hundred bucks. He is part of the niche that gets riled up not over the idea bombing Iran, or even dumfuckedly joking about bombing Iran, but becomes suddenly borderline rabid over stories like this (as told to Bob Woodward.)

jeffbr

I'm sure she's alienating a few of the more liberal Republicans as she brings masses of Republican base to the polls.

I'm sure when Obama picked an old white guy he alienated a lot of energized youth, while at the same time shoring up some old party, Democrat base.

It would have been strange if either candidate picked a running mate that universally appealled to every voter. I've never heard of such a pick.

Solat13

That's interesting since Gallup is showing McCain has gained 6 points with white males since the DNC:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/110260/Disproportionate-Shift-White-Womens-Preferences.aspx

YieldInHiding

Solat13 wrote:

That's interesting since Gallup is showing McCain has gained 6 points with white males since the DNC:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/110260/Disproportionate-Shift-White-Womens-Preferences.aspx

Interesting, this gallup poll says Obama gained points with white men.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/09/03/Poll_Obama_gains_among_white_men/UPI-92561220440551/

PRINCETON, N.J., Sept. 3 (UPI) -- A Gallup poll indicates Republican John McCain has lost some white male voters to Democratic challenger Barack Obama in the U.S. presidential race.

The Gallup poll released Wednesday showed McCain leading Obama by 13 percentage points among non-Hispanic white men -- a drop of 8 percentage points from a poll taken during the month of August.

Among white women, Obama's lead over McCain in both polls remained the same at 4 percentage points, Gallup reported, noting Obama in polls shows a huge lead among both black men and black women, and leads among Hispanics, regardless of gender.

The survey taken Saturday through Monday interviewed 2,772 registered voters by telephone and had a margin of error of 2 percentage points.

Solat13

YieldInHiding wrote:

Interesting, this gallup poll says Obama gained points with white men.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2008/09/03/Poll_Obama_gains_among_white_men/UPI-92561220440551/

PRINCETON, N.J., Sept. 3 (UPI) -- A Gallup poll indicates Republican John McCain has lost some white male voters to Democratic challenger Barack Obama in the U.S. presidential race.

The Gallup poll released Wednesday showed McCain leading Obama by 13 percentage points among non-Hispanic white men -- a drop of 8 percentage points from a poll taken during the month of August.

Among white women, Obama's lead over McCain in both polls remained the same at 4 percentage points, Gallup reported, noting Obama in polls shows a huge lead among both black men and black women, and leads among Hispanics, regardless of gender.

The survey taken Saturday through Monday interviewed 2,772 registered voters by telephone and had a margin of error of 2 percentage points.

Yeah, but that poll was taken 9 days before the one I posted. The results from the poll you sited are included in the one I posted.

Stone Is God

Solat13 wrote:

That's interesting since Gallup is showing McCain has gained 6 points with white males since the DNC:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/110260/Disproportionate-Shift-White-Womens-Preferences.aspx

Probably the Neo-Cons who were unsure about McCain but were re-energized with Palin.

Strangest Tribe

my poll is rising just thinking of Sarah

YieldInHiding

Solat13 wrote:

Yeah, but that poll was taken 9 days before the one I posted. The results from the poll you sited are included in the one I posted.

Here's one for Ohio dated, uh, today. How's that?

http://www.dispatchpolitics.com/live/content/local_news/stories/2008/09/12/copy/QUINN_POLL.ART_ART_09-12-08_B8_KMBA78E.html?adsec=politics&sid=101


My point was that you can easily find a poll that says the opposite. We will just have to find out on election day.

jimed14

My poll is bigger than your poll!!!

folks, you'll go nuts if you watch poll numbers every day ... the media is slicing and dicing data as best they can to sensationalize all of this ... and many of these polls have pretty high margins of error, meaning, they aren't polling enough people.

listen to the facts ... get ready for the debates ... read the news .. study up on Bob Barr (the more I watch, the more I think he'll actually make an impact) ...

you time is better spent doing these things than having a poll pissing contest.

darkcrow

there was an interesting article on politico or huffington post that compared polling to voter registration and the ground war. It found that the Dems were consistantly registering more voters than the republicans sometimes by over 405 or even over 50%.
It made a very important point that the election will be neck and neck reguardless of polls and really it will be how organised the ground offensive will be and who has the better machine. in that sense it looks like obama would edge it considering his machine;s ability to get people out to vote for him during the selection process

YieldInHiding

jimed14 wrote:

My poll is bigger than your poll!!!

folks, you'll go nuts if you watch poll numbers every day ... the media is slicing and dicing data as best they can to sensationalize all of this ... and many of these polls have pretty high margins of error, meaning, they aren't polling enough people.

listen to the facts ... get ready for the debates ... read the news .. study up on Bob Barr (the more I watch, the more I think he'll actually make an impact) ...

you time is better spent doing these things than having a poll pissing contest.

Did you read what I said at the bottom of my last post? I guess not.