actually saw a very interesting documentary last week about the Vienna conference.. and it was food for thought about experience..because it was JFK's inexperience that made a mess...
but then again, someone 'experienced' is far less likely to want to change the system that got him/her there, however rotten it is..
Obama isn't going to change the system, either. Hate to break to all you Oba-maniacs.
everybody wants the most they can possibly get
for the least they could possibly do
Yeah, damn that JFK for getting assassinated so he couldn't close the deal.
Chance are he wouldn't have. There was enough opposition to it that it wasn't going to pass as it was. LBJ got it through by armtwisting pure and simple. LBJ was associated with a good deal of people who were insitutional racists, and it was his inside knowledge of them that allowed him to do this.
Any bill that Kennedy would have passed would have been watered down. He couldn't push the opposition around the way LBJ did.
Chance are he wouldn't have. There was enough opposition to it that it wasn't going to pass as it was. LBJ got it through by armtwisting pure and simple. LBJ was associated with a good deal of people who were insitutional racists, and it was his inside knowledge of them that allowed him to do this.
Any bill that Kennedy would have passed would have been watered down. He couldn't push the opposition around the way LBJ did.
Chance are he wouldn't have. There was enough opposition to it that it wasn't going to pass as it was. LBJ got it through by armtwisting pure and simple. LBJ was associated with a good deal of people who were insitutional racists, and it was his inside knowledge of them that allowed him to do this.
Any bill that Kennedy would have passed would have been watered down. He couldn't push the opposition around the way LBJ did.
hillary? Is that you? Are you trolling our peaceful little message board again, hillary? Shouldn't you be getting your tax returns and whitehouse papers together instead of posting here?
Seriously, the truth of the matter is that LBJ didn't get shit for Black people. That isn't a dig, really, just an observation. There was so much pressure on him at the time that he really had no political choice. He is to be, somewhat commended, i'll concede that, but to say that "LBJ got civil rights for black people", is a tad ridiculous. Black people got civil rights for Black people. Not only Black people, but sincere, well intentioned whites as well, willing to march, sit-in, stand-in, and in other ways civily disobey, a coaltition of Black and clear sighted white PEOPLE led by Dr. King and a handful of others, willing to be beaten, jailed arrested, harrassed, dog-bitten, fire hosed and, in some instanced killed, for the cause, got civil rights for Black people. LBJ didn't "get" civil rights for anyone.
You Obama kooks missed History. It's not racist to state a historical fact. LBJ did implement JFK's Civil Rights legislation. Period. This is indisputable. That does not diminish the fact the many people, black and white, chrisitians and jews sacrificed themselves in the Civil Rights movement in the 60's. Enough with the racial sensitivity.
Obama isn't going to change the system, either. Hate to break to all you Oba-maniacs.
Oh, how can you sit there and say that?! Obama stands up for all that is good and rails against the system! Haven't you seen how he's given the finger to the nuclear power industry and decided it's time to look for a more environment friendly energy plan? Haven't you seen how he applies pressure to the banking industry and let's them know enough is enough....the american people come first? Haven't you seen how he has had enough of people dying and suffering due to lack of health insurance and how he wants to implement a single payer universal plan plan so no one will have to go without? Haven't you seen how he's against war and wants to use diplomacy and the UN as a means to encouraging talks of peaceful resolution before stationing our military in strategic areas of the globe to maintain power?
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
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Obama isn't going to change the system, either. Hate to break to all you Oba-maniacs.
for the least they could possibly do
Chance are he wouldn't have. There was enough opposition to it that it wasn't going to pass as it was. LBJ got it through by armtwisting pure and simple. LBJ was associated with a good deal of people who were insitutional racists, and it was his inside knowledge of them that allowed him to do this.
Any bill that Kennedy would have passed would have been watered down. He couldn't push the opposition around the way LBJ did.
Oh my god you said LBJ! Racist!
Oh my god you said LBJ! Racist!
You Obama kooks missed History. It's not racist to state a historical fact. LBJ did implement JFK's Civil Rights legislation. Period. This is indisputable. That does not diminish the fact the many people, black and white, chrisitians and jews sacrificed themselves in the Civil Rights movement in the 60's. Enough with the racial sensitivity.
Oh, how can you sit there and say that?! Obama stands up for all that is good and rails against the system! Haven't you seen how he's given the finger to the nuclear power industry and decided it's time to look for a more environment friendly energy plan? Haven't you seen how he applies pressure to the banking industry and let's them know enough is enough....the american people come first? Haven't you seen how he has had enough of people dying and suffering due to lack of health insurance and how he wants to implement a single payer universal plan plan so no one will have to go without? Haven't you seen how he's against war and wants to use diplomacy and the UN as a means to encouraging talks of peaceful resolution before stationing our military in strategic areas of the globe to maintain power?
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Is this a joke?
If I opened it now would you not understand?
What do you think, Driftin'?
Are my skills in sarcasm really that rusty?
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde