from a different paragraph...
He also only supports letting religious institutions hire and fire based on faith in the non-taxypayer funded portions of their activities, said a senior adviser to the campaign, who spoke on condition of anonymity to more freely describe the new policy.
How is that any different from firing someone for not following a businesses code of ethics or business model? All business have a mission statement and set of expecations etc... A religious entity is no different. I just can't believe that people are getting up in arms over allowing the federal gov't to dole out money to help people. That's the bottom line...big deal if it's a church or a religious agency. The government cannot do everything and the govt is allowing other agencies, that presumably can, to do some work and help people.
Never would I have thought that on such a liberal help everybody board, there would be such resistance to allowing people to help others with federal funds (oh that's right, religion is bad and is only a tool of the powerful to control people). If the religious entities can do it better than the govt, why not let them???? If the atheists got together and said we want to help people and they could do it better than the govt or religious, LET them do it and receive my tax dollars.
let me give you a story. there is a single women who is pregant and she goes to a clinic which just so happens to be the only one around her area. so she goes in teh place and starts to listen to teh councellor there and teh councellor program is pro-life. this women is going there to get all her options on what she can do. becuase the program is pro-life she does not get all teh options that she would get in other non-faith programs. she feel presuured by the councellor and decides to never go back there. as was said before, that is the only clinic that is around her area so she loses out on options that would be good for her.
that is a true story from where i work. that is why i hav emajor problems with this idea. i also find it funny that you don't have a problem is having teh government give money to people who can fire people becuase of different beliefs. can you name a business who would fire someone over their religion? i can't i can see a person getting fire becuase they are not doing their jobs.
People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
let me give you a story. there is a single women who is pregant and she goes to a clinic which just so happens to be the only one around her area. so she goes in teh place and starts to listen to teh councellor there and teh councellor program is pro-life. this women is going there to get all her options on what she can do. becuase the program is pro-life she does not get all teh options that she would get in other non-faith programs. she feel presuured by the councellor and decides to never go back there. as was said before, that is the only clinic that is around her area so she loses out on options that would be good for her.
that is a true story from where i work. that is why i hav emajor problems with this idea. i also find it funny that you don't have a problem is having teh government give money to people who can fire people becuase of different beliefs. can you name a business who would fire someone over their religion? i can't i can see a person getting fire becuase they are not doing their jobs.
in response to your story. a) "good" for her is merely your subjective view. in today's world you cant tell me that that the single woman has never heard of abortion...sorry, not gonna buy it. Unless she's 7.
let me give you a story. There's a group of people who don't have homes and need food and shelter. These people go to a building and are given just that for a few nights. They might be able to stay there longer if there was more money available to host them and pay for the food / shelter / clothing...this is a true story from my church.
I'm not going to paint every situation as bleak as your isolated event and as rosy and idealistic as mine; but clearly there will be people that benefit and prob people that don't. If you're looking for a perfect world and perfect situations every time to justify something, you won't find it...and if you do, that situation is full of it. This policy seems like the first step in introducing common sense back into politics...I don't even support Obama and I like this idea.
The real question in this is why would someone who doesn't share a faith with an organization want to get a job there? The faith-firing thing is just something for people to argue about, that prob won't matter at all.
make sure the fortune that you seek...is the fortune that you need
i understand and respect how this might not make sense to you, but some might say setting a goal of 25,000, and surpassing that goal by more than 100,000, as in the example i gave above, is an example of "the lord funding his own work".
"When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
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let me give you a story. there is a single women who is pregant and she goes to a clinic which just so happens to be the only one around her area. so she goes in teh place and starts to listen to teh councellor there and teh councellor program is pro-life. this women is going there to get all her options on what she can do. becuase the program is pro-life she does not get all teh options that she would get in other non-faith programs. she feel presuured by the councellor and decides to never go back there. as was said before, that is the only clinic that is around her area so she loses out on options that would be good for her.
that is a true story from where i work. that is why i hav emajor problems with this idea. i also find it funny that you don't have a problem is having teh government give money to people who can fire people becuase of different beliefs. can you name a business who would fire someone over their religion? i can't i can see a person getting fire becuase they are not doing their jobs.
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
in response to your story. a) "good" for her is merely your subjective view.
let me give you a story. There's a group of people who don't have homes and need food and shelter. These people go to a building and are given just that for a few nights. They might be able to stay there longer if there was more money available to host them and pay for the food / shelter / clothing...this is a true story from my church.
I'm not going to paint every situation as bleak as your isolated event and as rosy and idealistic as mine; but clearly there will be people that benefit and prob people that don't. If you're looking for a perfect world and perfect situations every time to justify something, you won't find it...and if you do, that situation is full of it. This policy seems like the first step in introducing common sense back into politics...I don't even support Obama and I like this idea.
The real question in this is why would someone who doesn't share a faith with an organization want to get a job there? The faith-firing thing is just something for people to argue about, that prob won't matter at all.
i understand and respect how this might not make sense to you, but some might say setting a goal of 25,000, and surpassing that goal by more than 100,000, as in the example i gave above, is an example of "the lord funding his own work".