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Who is the elitist?
Seriously I thought the Democrats were the ones who were supposed to be in touch with the common folk.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/16/streisand-to-perform-at-hollywood-fundraiser-for-obama/
DENVER (AP) — How does Barack Obama lure wealthy donors to a big-money fundraiser in Hollywood? Bring in Barbra Streisand as the headline performer.
The Oscar-winning singer and actress was to perform Tuesday night on Obama’s behalf in Beverly Hills. It was to be a two-step evening with a reception and dinner costing $28,500 a person followed by a later event featuring Streisand at $2,500 a ticket.
Obama was flying to Los Angeles after an appearance Tuesday morning in a Denver suburb.
The wealthy fundraiser comes on a day when the crisis in the U.S. economy remained an urgent issue for many Americans. Monday’s sharp sell-off left the Dow Jones industrials and the Standard & Poor’s 500 index down by more 4 percent, eroding the value of individual retirement and investment accounts, for example.
Streisand originally backed Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton but switched to Obama when he emerged as the Democratic presidential nominee.
Streisand has been outspoken in criticizing John McCain’s selection of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate on the Republican presidential ticket.
“This calculated, cynical ploy to pull away a small percentage of Hillary’s women voters from Barack Obama will not work,” Streisand wrote on her Web page. “We are not that stupid!”
“I believe John McCain chose Gov. Palin because he truly believes that women who supported Hillary — an experienced, brilliant, lifelong public servant — would vote for him because his vice president has two X chromosomes,” Streisand said. “McCain’s selection of Gov. Palin is a transparent and irresponsible decision all in the name of trying to win this election.”
Obama is financing his presidential race with private contributions after abandoning a pledge to take public financing capped at $84 million. His campaign announced Sunday it had collected $66 million in August, a fundraising record for any presidential candidate in a monthlong period.
By comparison, McCain raised $47 million in August, a personal best for his campaign as well. After claiming the GOP nomination, McCain accepted the $84 million in taxpayer funds allotted the public financing system for the race.
Save the Fox News comments for someplace else
Seriously I thought the Democrats were the ones who were supposed to be in touch with the common folk.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/16/streisand-to-perform-at-hollywood-fundraiser-for-obama/
DENVER (AP) — How does Barack Obama lure wealthy donors to a big-money fundraiser in Hollywood? Bring in Barbra Streisand as the headline performer.
The Oscar-winning singer and actress was to perform Tuesday night on Obama’s behalf in Beverly Hills. It was to be a two-step evening with a reception and dinner costing $28,500 a person followed by a later event featuring Streisand at $2,500 a ticket.
Obama was flying to Los Angeles after an appearance Tuesday morning in a Denver suburb.
The wealthy fundraiser comes on a day when the crisis in the U.S. economy remained an urgent issue for many Americans. Monday’s sharp sell-off left the Dow Jones industrials and the Standard & Poor’s 500 index down by more 4 percent, eroding the value of individual retirement and investment accounts, for example.
Streisand originally backed Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton but switched to Obama when he emerged as the Democratic presidential nominee.
Streisand has been outspoken in criticizing John McCain’s selection of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin as his running mate on the Republican presidential ticket.
“This calculated, cynical ploy to pull away a small percentage of Hillary’s women voters from Barack Obama will not work,” Streisand wrote on her Web page. “We are not that stupid!”
“I believe John McCain chose Gov. Palin because he truly believes that women who supported Hillary — an experienced, brilliant, lifelong public servant — would vote for him because his vice president has two X chromosomes,” Streisand said. “McCain’s selection of Gov. Palin is a transparent and irresponsible decision all in the name of trying to win this election.”
Obama is financing his presidential race with private contributions after abandoning a pledge to take public financing capped at $84 million. His campaign announced Sunday it had collected $66 million in August, a fundraising record for any presidential candidate in a monthlong period.
By comparison, McCain raised $47 million in August, a personal best for his campaign as well. After claiming the GOP nomination, McCain accepted the $84 million in taxpayer funds allotted the public financing system for the race.
Save the Fox News comments for someplace else
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Those guys just can't get a leg up, can they?
My heart breaks for them.
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exactly. i don't even have the $5mil in my bank account to be considered middle class.
you must have been a product of the american public school system. only that colossal failure could have produced this kind of logical fallacy. how does this fundraiser in any way make john i-have-so-many-houses-i-can't-even-keep-track-of-them-all mccain less elitist? all this article does is show that obama is very popular with liberal donors. so what's your point?
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I do kind of have problem with Obama being against school vouchers, complaining about the high cost of education, complaining about the quality of public education yet he sends his kids to a school with a tuition of between 16k to 21k a year depending on age.
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Dumbest comment of 2008. Yes I went to public schools, in America. I'm sure many people here did as well. Do you have a problem with that?
i have a problem with the absurd logical fallacy of your argument. your article does nothing to support the point you claim it does.
I don't agree with him on school vouchers but what does him sending his daughters to a private school have to do with anything. He realizes that the public education system in this country is broken and he wants what is best for his kids. That doesn't mean that he doesn't want to fix the problem.
I was just going along with the theory being presented by the original poster of Obama being elitist. I mean the majority of this country does not send their kids to approximately 20,000 a year schools. That's more than tuition for most colleges.
I agree the public school system is terrible, but it's hard to make the argument that the cost of education is too high in this country when you're the product of two Ivy league schools and an expensive private school in Hawaii.
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on the contrary, wouldn't that mean he understands the burden of a very expensive education firsthand? he just paid off his loans last year.
As do I. I'm still paying off my loans from U Penn. But shouldn't he also realize that the high cost of education is coming from his own side. Most of the top institutions are liberal and they're the ones jacking the prices up.
His plan of a 4,000 dollar tax credit does nothing to stop the rising costs of college tuition. It only helps people going to state schools and community colleges.
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So you are turning high college tuition into a failure of the Democrats now?
Wow.
The idea behind the 4k tax credit is not to make everyone able to attend Ivy League schools. It is meant to provide people with the ability to attend college that otherwise might not be able to afford it. And yes, god forbid that means they might have to go to a state school. The horror! :rolleyes:
you're right. let's just do nothin at all and help nobody. much better solution. unless everyone can go to harvard, there is no sense in even attempting to make college access easier.
this is absurd. the high cost of education is universal and has nothing to do with liberal schools jacking up prices. i go to one of the most conservative, pro-business law schools in the country... it's also hands down the most expensive. tuition at the state school i went to for undergrad has skyrocketed. there are all kinds of problems with the higher education system. it has nothing to do with liberal universities jacking up prices. it is laughable that you're somehow trying to blame some liberal democratic plot for the cost of higher education.
I would think he sends his kids to private school because he wants what's best for his kids. What kind of father would deny their kids the best possible education they could give them if it doesn't hurt other people?
School vouchers, on the other hand, do hurt poor people. To me, his lack of support of them just DOES go to show that he's "in touch with the common people".
Biggest scam on the planet...tryng to pull the wool over people's eyes that school vouchers are in some way a good thing.
Ugh!!!!!
(OK...maybe not biggest scam...i can think of many a scam that is horrible and sold to the people it will hurt the most that it will actually HELP them... but you know what i mean...)
How is this elitist?
Babs is doing the show to raise money to get Obama elected. If they did a less-expensive benefit for the "common folk", they wouldn't raise enough money to fund the campaign. Its great that the wealthy Dems can help fund the election of the man who will represent the common folk.
i agree. it is interesting to me that democrats are the party for african-americans, but are so anti-school voucher. from what i understand, the african-american community is strongly in support of vouchers. i support them too. the whole school vouchers hurting the poor argument is very elitist and condescending. that's like saying "hey, we know what poor people want, but let's face it, we know what's good for them better than they do. just don't vote republican, they're all racists." fact is, our education system is a massive failure.
Holy cow I heard you in the next room. :rolleyes:
Babs? Haha, are you a fan?
Huh? Did you read GTFLYGIRL's comment, with which you said you agree? She said people have been tricked into believing that school vouchers are a good thing. It sounds like you're one of these people.
How is it elitist and condescending to not be fooled by the whole school vouchers plan? WTF are you talking about??
You said school vouchers are good but you didn't explain that belief at all. What's so good about them? I understand how they sound good in theory, especially since there are so many problems with the public school system. But in practice they'll only help the middle class at the expense of the poor.
Let's say there's a private school that charges $10,000 a year. You could get a voucher to go there, but the voucher will only be worth, say, $3000. So only those families with an extra $7000 per kid will be able to benefit. The problem is that, while the poorer people will still be left in the public school system, every voucher that is used will take $3000 away from that system. The result is that poor kids will be stuck in the same failing public school system, which will then have even fewer resources than they had before.