The Dow just dropped under 9,000

mammasan
mammasan Posts: 5,656
edited October 2008 in A Moving Train
I feel like I'm watching a limbo contest.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
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  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    I'm glad I've got a long way to go to retirement and my 401K money is buying funds at much cheaper prices than before.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    but...but....the bailout was supposed to fix this....the bailout or "rescue plan" was the only option....

    at least that's what I was told....

    I guess the market will fix itself without the 700 billion....
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    The 700 billion was for spa treatments for Wall Street and the Bankers. Don't you read the news?!
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    know1 wrote:
    The 700 billion was for spa treatments for Wall Street and the Bankers. Don't you read the news?!

    I forgot....:o
  • jimed14
    jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    inmytree wrote:
    but...but....the bailout was supposed to fix this....the bailout or "rescue plan" was the only option....

    at least that's what I was told....

    I guess the market will fix itself without the 700 billion....

    and the McCain campaign said as late as last Friday that they wanted to turn the page on the subject of the economy ... :rolleyes:
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  • Stone Is God
    Stone Is God Posts: 1,331
    It's funny how today marks the 1 year anniversary of the highest close ever. The Dow has only lost 5500 points since then. 100 points a week. Unreal.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Stone Is God wrote:
    It's funny how today marks the 1 year anniversary of the highest close ever. The Dow has only lost 5500 points since then. 100 points a week. Unreal.

    In one week the Dow has lost over 2,000 points.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • Stone Is God
    Stone Is God Posts: 1,331
    mammasan wrote:
    In one week the Dow has lost over 2,000 points.

    That's pretty scary.

    I'm glad the bailout plan quelled fears on Wall St though, who knows what would have happened if that didn't pass.

    What a bunch of crap. I'm glad I'm only 30 and I can rebuild my 401k after it's been slashed and burned in recent weeks.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Stone Is God wrote:
    That's pretty scary.

    I'm glad the bailout plan quelled fears on Wall St though, who knows what would have happened if that didn't pass.

    What a bunch of crap. I'm glad I'm only 30 and I can rebuild my 401k after it's been slashed and burned in recent weeks.

    My 401k and my stocks have been killed in the past few months.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    mammasan wrote:
    In one week the Dow has lost over 2,000 points.

    Don't be such a fearmonger.

    And you never comment on all the good news.
    Like for instance ... uh ... gold and silver are up!
    ;)

    :rolleyes: :cool: :rolleyes:
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  • Strangest Tribe
    Strangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    Am I the only one highly suspicious of all this?
    We've lost 25000 on our 401k, but I'm 20 years from collecting in full.
    Why shouldn't I double down on it soon? Like Monday maybe.
    the Minions
  • know1
    know1 Posts: 6,801
    Strangest Tribe wrote:
    Am I the only one highly suspicious of all this?
    We've lost 25000 on our 401k, but I'm 20 years from collecting in full.
    Why shouldn't I double down on it soon? Like Monday maybe.

    I wish I could double down on mine right now, but I'm already maxed out.
    The only people we should try to get even with...
    ...are those who've helped us.

    Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
  • sweet adeline
    sweet adeline Posts: 2,191
    this would be funny, if it wasn't affecting me so much. all i can say is WTF?
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    Don't be such a fearmonger.

    And you never comment on all the good news.
    Like for instance ... uh ... gold and silver are up!
    ;)

    :rolleyes: :cool: :rolleyes:

    Some good that will do me when my company lays me off.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • MattyJoe
    MattyJoe Posts: 1,424
    The bailout plan hasn't been totally implemented yet. And even if it is, doesn't mean the stock market will go up. Investors are selling selling selling but no one's buying. That's why it's going down. People just don't want to buy anymore because they're scared.
    I pledge to you a government that will not only work well, but wisely, its ability to act tempered by prudence, and its willingness to do good, balanced by the knowledge that government is never more dangerous than when our desire to have it help us blinds us to its great power to harm us.
    -Reagan
  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    Strangest Tribe wrote:
    Am I the only one highly suspicious of all this?
    We've lost 25000 on our 401k, but I'm 20 years from collecting in full.
    Why shouldn't I double down on it soon? Like Monday maybe.

    Let me tell you the same thing i told my dad (who is thinking the same as you) last night:

    Don't get all excited thinking, "now is the time to buy at DOW 8600, and make a sweet killing when it rebounds to 14,000 in 3 years."

    There is NO reason to expect that this market couldn't trade between DOW 6,500 and 10,500 for the next DECADE or MORE.

    That would make your double down at this level speculative at BEST, and at worst a 10 year LOSING trade.

    Look, this thing COULD (and god willing, "should") pop back sometime ... but NOW is NOT the time to throw all your available funds at it.

    If ANYTHING, you should be making sure you have PLENTY OF CASH on the sideline, and moreover, i would actually make sure you have a few thousand in PHYSICAL CASH!

    Remember, only THREE percent of ALL the money in the system is REAL CASH ... if there is a REAL credit crisis, GOOD LUCK DRAWING MONEY FROM YOUR BANK.

    People, you need to be thinking EXTREMELY defensive here, not getting greedy dollar signs in your eyes about all the theoretical potential for profit.

    Wait a month of two, see what happens.
    If it all blows over, you can buy at DOW 10,500 or 11,000 and still be perfectly happy. But you could throw your money at it right now, and watch half of the DJIA go bankrupt and be in the poor house.

    The credit markets are THAT fucked up right now.
    GM may be bankrupt by weeks end.

    Slow your roll!
    If I was to smile and I held out my hand
    If I opened it now would you not understand?
  • Abuskedti
    Abuskedti Posts: 1,917
    Strangest Tribe wrote:
    Am I the only one highly suspicious of all this?
    We've lost 25000 on our 401k, but I'm 20 years from collecting in full.
    Why shouldn't I double down on it soon? Like Monday maybe.

    I am the opposite, I was suspicious of the quick rise. If you look at the graph of the Dow from inception, you would extrapolate it to infinity in about 10 years.

    The price of all these stocks were inflated like Beanie babies. It started when retirements migrated to the stock market, and when Mutual funds make it easy for Joe-Six-Pack (sry, couldn't resist) to invest in the market. Everyone was competing to buy stocks so the price rose.

    Now that confidence is gone.. My bet is that it will not recover as it has in the past - but it will rise agian very slowly and at a rate closer to that of the growth of the companies. It will be a long before confidence is restored.

    I would not be suprized to see the market drop to 5000 and remain there for a while.

    The good news is that the economy is not measured by the price of stocks. However, there will be many companies falling that has large stock portfolios, and many will be out of work..

    it was past time that we stepped back a bit in our standard of living, and stepped up our effort and learning.

    This is all good news.
  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    Stone Is God wrote:
    It's funny how today marks the 1 year anniversary of the highest close ever. The Dow has only lost 5500 points since then. 100 points a week. Unreal.


    It's not a crisis---it's a 40% off sale. China can now buy up more of America at a steep discount.
  • blackredyellow
    blackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    6 minutes in today and it's now below 8000. 600 point drop so far.
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  • Stone Is God
    Stone Is God Posts: 1,331
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    It's not a crisis---it's a 40% off sale. China can now buy up more of America at a steep discount.

    Fire sale. Everything must go.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me.

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