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McCain campaign won't commit to debate on Friday

mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
edited September 2008 in A Moving Train
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93DTODG0&show_article=1

OK now this is getting a bit ridiculous. The Reps and Dems in the House and Senate have pretty much agreed to a plan. They will be presenting it to Secretary Paulson and the President today. What is his excuse for not debating now.
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  • ThecureThecure Posts: 814
    god what the fuck is wrong with McCain. this is just stupid.

    a part of me just kinda hopes that McCain is fucking the rep. party and screwing them for what they did 8 yeasr ago. whould that not be cool
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  • QuestionAuthorityQuestionAuthority Idaho Posts: 327
    mammasan wrote:
    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93DTODG0&show_article=1

    OK now this is getting a bit ridiculous. The Reps and Dems in the House and Senate have pretty much agreed to a plan. They will be presenting it to Secretary Paulson and the President today. What is his excuse for not debating now.


    Totally agree.. he is cleraly NOT PREPARED and it is going to show.. he pulls a no show I can guarantee he is going to slip further in the polls!
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  • jimed14jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    the longer people keep worrying if there will or will not be a debate ... they longer they are not focued on the issues.

    Lipstick and Pigs ... suspend my campaign ... flag pins ...

    it's all a trick to talk about anything BUT the issues.
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Thecure wrote:
    god what the fuck is wrong with McCain. this is just stupid

    I can understand, not agree with, but understand wanting to reschedule the debate in order to focus on this issue. By all reports both parties have come to an agreement on a bill and are presenting to the treasury and president and it will go to a vote in a few days. Now there is definitely no need for him to be in Washington. He is just looking really stupid right now. For the sake of his campaign he had better come out soon and say that the debate is on.
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Thecure wrote:
    god what the fuck is wrong with McCain. this is just stupid.

    a part of me just kinda hopes that McCain is fucking the rep. party and screwing them for what they did 8 yeasr ago. whould that not be cool

    I would recommend that we build a 20 ft statue made of gold of McCain give the Capital Building the middle finger. An accompanying inscription on the peddle stool would read "Fuck the GOP".
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • ThecureThecure Posts: 814
    mammasan wrote:
    I can understand, not agree with, but understand wanting to reschedule the debate in order to focus on this issue. By all reports both parties have come to an agreement on a bill and are presenting to the treasury and president and it will go to a vote in a few days. Now there is definitely no need for him to be in Washington. He is just looking really stupid right now. For the sake of his campaign he had better come out soon and say that the debate is on.

    i agree in the another thread i said that both Obama and mccain should b ein wash. but if it is true that adeal has been made get to the fucking "debate"
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  • meisteredermeistereder Posts: 1,577
    Pretty clear it's just gamesmanship now. I think he'll debate, but the fact that the country is waiting on baited breath whether or not he will is what his campaign wanted all along, and they accomplished that.

    Anything to steer clear of those issues.
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  • ThecureThecure Posts: 814
    mammasan wrote:
    I would recommend that we build a 20 ft statue made of gold of McCain give the Capital Building the middle finger. An accompanying inscription on the peddle stool would read "Fuck the GOP".

    if you think about it look at the decision he has made that are really weird. palin, suspending campiagn all thsi different shit. i would lov eto see Mccain coem out when he lost to Obama and say "listen Motherfuckers, you inbreds from the south, you fucked with me 8 years ago now kiss my ass.
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    I have to say it seems like Obama dodged a bullet on this one. This could have gone badly for him but so far it seems to have back fired on McCain.
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  • saveuplifesaveuplife Posts: 1,173
    I liked the move. He's putting his job first. It's not like they can't postpone the debate... and there are several of them.

    However, I got to admit I'd like to see a debate. So, I hope he changes his mind and markets recover.
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Thecure wrote:
    if you think about it look at the decision he has made that are really weird. palin, suspending campiagn all thsi different shit. i would lov eto see Mccain coem out when he lost to Obama and say "listen Motherfuckers, you inbreds from the south, you fucked with me 8 years ago now kiss my ass.

    That would be the shit. At that point McCain will officially become my hero.
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    saveuplife wrote:
    I liked the move. He's putting his job first. It's not like they can't postpone the debate... and there are several of them.

    However, I got to admit I'd like to see a debate. So, I hope he changes his mind and markets recover.

    Whether you liked the move or not the fact that a compromise has been made and a deal reached in Congress but McCain's campaign is still debating whether to debate. There truly is no reason to push back the debate now. Now if he does not show or draws this out for to long it will play out extremely poor for him.

    Something no one has brought up yet but McCain was not involved in any of the closed door meetings between House and Senate leaders to get the plan together. It could be said that his announcement was just a bit of grand standing.
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  • QuestionAuthorityQuestionAuthority Idaho Posts: 327
    saveuplife wrote:
    I liked the move. He's putting his job first. It's not like they can't postpone the debate... and there are several of them.

    However, I got to admit I'd like to see a debate. So, I hope he changes his mind and markets recover.

    There are three debates..

    And it really does not suprise me that you think this is a good move.. putting the job first? The job is done.. this just makes him look like he is a fool now..
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  • Gonzo1977Gonzo1977 Posts: 1,696
    mammasan wrote:
    Whether you liked the move or not the fact that a compromise has been made and a deal reached in Congress but McCain's campaign is still debating whether to debate. There truly is no reason to push back the debate now. Now if he does not show or draws this out for to long it will play out extremely poor for him.

    Something no one has brought up yet but McCain was not involved in any of the closed door meetings between House and Senate leaders to get the plan together. It could be said that his announcement was just a bit of grand standing.


    Wow!!
    With all the disagreements we've had today.
    I acutally support every word you just said :)
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Gonzo1977 wrote:
    Wow!!
    With all the disagreements we've had today.
    I acutally support every word you just said :)


    See us Libertarians are not all crazy crack-pots :)
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  • stuckinlinestuckinline Posts: 3,381
    QuestionAuthority wrote:
    .. this just makes him look like he is a fool now..
    and yet people will still vote for him.............
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    mammasan wrote:
    See us Libertarians are not all crazy crack-pots :)


    shhh....don't tell them :o
  • Brain of J.LoBrain of J.Lo Posts: 3,259
    mammasan wrote:
    I have to say it seems like Obama dodged a bullet on this one. This could have gone badly for him but so far it seems to have back fired on McCain.

    I think this is largely because the press has grown a little tired of being jerked around by McCain, and they feel especially stupid for allowing the lipstick/pig nonsense to go on as long as it did...
  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    There's no way McCain's not going to show up for a debate if there's a done deal on the bailout. It's starting to look like this risk backfired for him. Quite something, I thought he was really going to be able to cut into Obama on this one.
  • meisteredermeistereder Posts: 1,577
    Brain of J.Lo wrote:
    I think this is largely because the press has grown a little tired of being jerked around by McCain, and they feel especially stupid for allowing the lipstick/pig nonsense to go on as long as it did...


    The press is also pissed at the McCain campaign for being shielded from Palin. This campaign is anything but an open book, and the press are rightfully frustrated. Any hint that a debate will be delayed just increases this frustration because it gives the impression they're continuing those charades.
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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    meistereder wrote:
    The press is also pissed at the McCain campaign for being shielded from Palin. This campaign is anything but an open book, and the press are rightfully frustrated. Any hint that a debate will be delayed just increases this frustration because it gives the impression they're continuing those charades.

    It's not smart to piss off the press, but I think that the McCain camp is going that route almost intentionally just to fire up the base.

    It's just another example of Presidential candidate McCain being a polar opposite to Senator McCain. He has just completely given in to his handlers at this point.
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  • meisteredermeistereder Posts: 1,577
    So what's the deal? I need to make Friday night plans over here. Fucking McCain is messing up my weekend.

    Also, is his campaign still suspended? My prediction is he'll come out with a statement/ press conference in which he somehow takes credit for getting the deal done.
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  • saveuplifesaveuplife Posts: 1,173
    mammasan wrote:
    Whether you liked the move or not the fact that a compromise has been made and a deal reached in Congress but McCain's campaign is still debating whether to debate. There truly is no reason to push back the debate now. Now if he does not show or draws this out for to long it will play out extremely poor for him.

    Something no one has brought up yet but McCain was not involved in any of the closed door meetings between House and Senate leaders to get the plan together. It could be said that his announcement was just a bit of grand standing.


    I agree with you. If the compromise is official, then I think the debate should take place. The truth is, McCain was the one requesting "more" debates. Obama was the one saying no to more debates. That said, once again, if things are a "go" tomorrow, I think McCain will show up. It really wouldn't make sense for him not to. But, I don't see too much of a problem with him ensuring this thing will go through.
  • saveuplifesaveuplife Posts: 1,173
    QuestionAuthority wrote:
    There are three debates..

    And it really does not suprise me that you think this is a good move.. putting the job first? The job is done.. this just makes him look like he is a fool now..


    You crack me up.

    Yes, I'm not one who chants "Obama Obama" in my sleep, so I'm not surprised that you are not surprised. That said, I sincerely have not decided how I am voting yet and I'm betting that you have.

    The job has not been "officially" completed yet. According to the AP, a deal was struck earlier today, but it's future was unclear. Words are meaningless in politics, as I'm sure you know. You need signatures and actual votes. Therefore, you are wrong... the job is not complete. That is fact.
  • SuzannePjamSuzannePjam Posts: 411
    I guess McCain really doesn't want the debate to happen. Anyone think his goal is to push the debate to next week so Palin won't have to debate Biden? Also, reports confirm that his campaign offices are going at full tilt across the country.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/25/at-white-house-mccain-pla_n_129438.html

    Excerpt: Towards the end, McCain finally spoke up, mentioning a counter-proposal that had been offered by some conservative House Republicans, which would suspend the capital gains tax for two years and provide tax incentives to encourage firms that buy up bad debt. McCain did not discuss specifics of the plan, though, and was non-committal about supporting it.
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  • DixieNDixieN Posts: 351
    saveuplife wrote:
    I liked the move. He's putting his job first. It's not like they can't postpone the debate... and there are several of them.

    However, I got to admit I'd like to see a debate. So, I hope he changes his mind and markets recover.

    It took him five days into the crisis to "put his job first." Ploy. If he hadn't been sliding in the polls, he'd be out campaigning and spreading lies as per usual. Funny Palin would get an extra prep week out of the deal, too. Not that she can't use it, but still.
  • saveuplifesaveuplife Posts: 1,173
    DixieN wrote:
    It took him five days into the crisis to "put his job first." Ploy. If he hadn't been sliding in the polls, he'd be out campaigning and spreading lies as per usual. Funny Palin would get an extra prep week out of the deal, too. Not that she can't use it, but still.


    Depends on how you describe the crisis. I totally disagree, I think you need to take into account the bottom. And you are not with your "five days" quote. The bottom was obviously not five days ago. So, please..... try to be objective.
  • brandon10brandon10 Posts: 1,114
    saveuplife wrote:
    Depends on how you describe the crisis. I totally disagree, I think you need to take into account the bottom. And you are not with your "five days" quote. The bottom was obviously not five days ago. So, please..... try to be objective.


    The bottom?? what the hell are you talking about???
  • QuestionAuthorityQuestionAuthority Idaho Posts: 327
    saveuplife wrote:
    You crack me up.

    Yes, I'm not one who chants "Obama Obama" in my sleep, so I'm not surprised that you are not surprised. That said, I sincerely have not decided how I am voting yet and I'm betting that you have.

    The job has not been "officially" completed yet. According to the AP, a deal was struck earlier today, but it's future was unclear. Words are meaningless in politics, as I'm sure you know. You need signatures and actual votes. Therefore, you are wrong... the job is not complete. That is fact.


    I truly am delighted in my ability to crack you up.. it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside!

    Here for the last month while I sleep I actually am chanting "NO, NO".. and wake up in a cold sweat after the nightmare that I just had of Sarah Palin being president! It is the scariest dream I ever have had!

    Yes.. I decided A LONG time ago which SIDE I was voting for.. sorry, but for me personally there was never another option other than the person who had the D next to his or her name.. as there is NO WAY I am voting for yet another republican to fuck the American people the way we have been for the last 8 years.

    That said.. when I responded to this post it seemed that the deal was done.. it is not. But even with that not being resolved.. if John McCain cannot handle a 90 minute debate along with the problem we are facing pretty much scares the shit out of me in his multi-tasking abilities.
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