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mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
edited September 2008 in A Moving Train
I was watching the news last night and they had a clip of McCain's campaign manager stating that Sarah Palin would no longer be available for interviews until the press starts treating her fairly. Now I will admit that some portions of the media have been harsh on Palin, Olbermann for example, but for the most part the media has not been any harder on her than most candidates. I've heard Hannity come out and say that the media's treatment of Palin is sexist. My question is where was all this outrage when Hillary was running in the primaries, when the media was portraying her like a power hungry bitch. Where were all the cries of sexism when Michelle Obama was being attacked in the media or when Teresa Heinz Kerry was being attacked in 2004. Where was all the outrage when during the Clinton administration Rush Limbaugh called Chelsea Clinton, then a 13 year old girl, the First Dog. Where was all the outrage when Ann Coulter stated that women should not have the right to vote.

Why all of a sudden does this double standard exist that a female candidate can not be asked tough questions? And is that mindset in and of itself not sexist?
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  • Because they know that the more people dig up on here, the more she'll be exposed as a self centered Neo-Con.

    I'm also glad to see that she is following in the footsteps of the current administration in refusing to testify in the "Trooper-gate" scandal.

    In this case I think that they're claiming sexism when they're really scared of what people might find out about her.
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  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    just politics.

    There are nice and dick ways to ask quesitons and depending on how it's done you can make a guest look good or look stupid depending on thier ability to handle it. It's really pretty stupid to have put her in front of Charlie Gibson. Charlie caught her basically reciting prep material and focusing on energy and he nailed her ass on it when he said... "but Sarah national security is a lot deeper than just energy policy.." or something to that effect and she fumbled the response to that pretty badly.

    Basically this is spin control because she's not a very good in an interview.

    This is akin to putting an unprepared witness on the stand and wrecking your case. They waited a long time to announce this for a reason and they are pulling her from interviews for a reason. If she was a great interview and adept and or adroit with handling an interviewer they'd put her out more often.

    THis is all about image. She's making herself look bad so retain all the image you can and don't make yourself look stupid.


    As far as outrage.... most of that is for show anyway and not really worthy of a comment or show of anger. I mean... Sean Hannity is outraged... really... ok now fly your G4 back to your house and roll in the money you make from advertisers who love the income they rake in from the people who listen to you be "outraged"
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  • I love the hypocrisy and double-standards in our politics.

    We over use the adjective "unbelievable" way too often around here when talking about things that our elected officials do, but it might be warranted in this case. We have presidential election that is less than 2 months away, and the republican party will not grant access to their vp candidate who the voting public knows nothing about because they are afraid that the press will be too mean to her?

    Added to the fact that she is no longer cooperating with a bi-partisan ethics investigation in her own state....

    And the real kicker is, she is on the campaign trial talking about her desire for "open government".
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    just politics.

    There are nice and dick ways to ask quesitons and depending on how it's done you can make a guest look good or look stupid depending on thier ability to handle it. It's really pretty stupid to have put her in front of Charlie Gibson. Charlie caught her basically reciting prep material and focusing on energy and he nailed her ass on it when he said... "but Sarah national security is a lot deeper than just energy policy.." or something to that effect and she fumbled the response to that pretty badly.

    Basically this is spin control because she's not a very good in an interview.

    This is akin to putting an unprepared witness on the stand and wrecking your case. They waited a long time to announce this for a reason and they are pulling her from interviews for a reason. If she was a great interview and adept and or adroit with handling an interviewer they'd put her out more often.

    THis is all about image. She's making herself look bad so retain all the image you can and don't make yourself look stupid.

    I agree with you, but isn't the call of sexism really a form of sexism itself.
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  • mammasan wrote:
    I was watching the news last night and they had a clip of McCain's campaign manager stating that Sarah Palin would no longer be available for interviews until the press starts treating her fairly. Now I will admit that some portions of the media have been harsh on Palin, Olbermann for example, but for the most part the media has not been any harder on her than most candidates. I've heard Hannity come out and say that the media's treatment of Palin is sexist. My question is where was all this outrage when Hillary was running in the primaries, when the media was portraying her like a power hungry bitch. Where were all the cries of sexism when Michelle Obama was being attacked in the media or when Teresa Heinz Kerry was being attacked in 2004. Where was all the outrage when during the Clinton administration Rush Limbaugh called Chelsea Clinton, then a 13 year old girl, the First Dog. Where was all the outrage when Ann Coulter stated that women should not have the right to vote.

    Why all of a sudden does this double standard exist that a female candidate can not be asked tough questions? And is that mindset in and of itself not sexist?

    Well, some people only care to defend a woman from sexist remarks when when they think that woman is a "milf".

    :rolleyes:
  • catch22catch22 Posts: 1,081
    mammasan wrote:
    I was watching the news last night and they had a clip of McCain's campaign manager stating that Sarah Palin would no longer be available for interviews until the press starts treating her fairly. Now I will admit that some portions of the media have been harsh on Palin, Olbermann for example, but for the most part the media has not been any harder on her than most candidates. I've heard Hannity come out and say that the media's treatment of Palin is sexist. My question is where was all this outrage when Hillary was running in the primaries, when the media was portraying her like a power hungry bitch. Where were all the cries of sexism when Michelle Obama was being attacked in the media or when Teresa Heinz Kerry was being attacked in 2004. Where was all the outrage when during the Clinton administration Rush Limbaugh called Chelsea Clinton, then a 13 year old girl, the First Dog. Where was all the outrage when Ann Coulter stated that women should not have the right to vote.

    Why all of a sudden does this double standard exist that a female candidate can not be asked tough questions? And is that mindset in and of itself not sexist?

    that is absolute bullshit. they're scared. she has singlehandedly saved his campaign, but they know she can't handle the heat of national scrutiny. i hope this backfires.

    i thought liberals were supposed to be the party of petulant whiners?

    *edit* the more i think about this, the more infuriating this is. let's change washington, by making sure our candidates are utterly unaccountable. we can't ask her tough questions because she's a woman and can't handle it. people are very skeptical of an inexperienced unknown from alaska, so rather than putting her out there so people can learn about her, they hide her. it's very clear now that they aren't even pretending she's qualified. she was a political choice and it's starting to backfire on them. i can't even think of words to adequately describe how angry this makes me.
    and like that... he's gone.
  • puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
    Why grant an interview when you have nothing intelligent to say. Palin is crying sexist because she knows she's out of her political league and this is all she has left. America is in a crisis mood and people want to know what these candidates are going to do if elected. A smile and witty jokes only go so far. There is a lot of dirt under her carpet which the media has begun to discover. Palin, by not giving interviews is hoping time will run out before the media fines out where all the dirt came from.
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  • JSBEJSBE Posts: 1,078
    is mccain going to write her a sick note for the debates? she's going to have to show up and look stupid there.
  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    mammasan wrote:
    I agree with you, but isn't the call of sexism really a form of sexism itself.


    yeah, I guess you could say that. I mean the whole Idea is treating someone differently because of thier sex right?

    Then again Sexism and Racism what have you are always used politically to incite feelings in people about the connotations of those words. They are meant to evoke specific emotional reactions... and they work.
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  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    JSBE wrote:
    is mccain going to write her a sick note for the debates? she's going to have to show up and look stupid there.

    if GWB can survive a debate - so can she ... they'll have her prepared to keep saying a whole lot of nothing ...
  • Pacomc79Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    puremagic wrote:
    Why grant an interview when you have nothing intelligent to say. Palin is crying sexist because she knows she's out of her political league and this is all she has left. America is in a crisis mood and people want to know what these candidates are going to do if elected. A smile and witty jokes only go so far. There is a lot of dirt under her carpet which the media has begun to discover. Palin, by not giving interviews is hoping time will run out before the media fines out where all the dirt came from.

    There is a lot of dirt under her carpet?

    Wow C, that's below the belt :D.
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  • Its called distraction, anything to avoid real issues. Both sides play it and the public eats it up... just read some of the threads on this board (all distractions with very little content).
  • I totally agree with all the other posts.. but I also think they are trying to make her our to be this victim of the big bad media.. that somehow this will endure people to her more and feel sorry for her that she is getting picked on by the big bully on the playground.

    I think it is a total crock of shit..
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    Its called distraction, anything to avoid real issues. Both sides play it and the public eats it up... just read some of the threads on this board (all distractions with very little content).


    Speaking of avoiding things...


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  • catch22catch22 Posts: 1,081
    I totally agree with all the other posts.. but I also think they are trying to make her our to be this victim of the big bad media.. that somehow this will endure people to her more and feel sorry for her that she is getting picked on by the big bully on the playground.

    I think it is a total crock of shit..

    agreed. it's a pretty cynical ploy on their part. unfortunately, since i think most americans are dumber than dogs, i suspect it will work.
    and like that... he's gone.
  • JSBEJSBE Posts: 1,078
    what i don't understand is that obama was put through the proverbial wringer for how many months with the obama/osama crap and the rev. wright stuff and so on and so on...and she's been the official vp candidate for how many weeks? not even a month people, weeks.

    if she can't handle the media, how is she going to handle being vp?
  • catch22catch22 Posts: 1,081
    JSBE wrote:
    what i don't understand is that obama was put through the proverbial wringer for how many months with the obama/osama crap and the rev. wright stuff and so on and so on...and she's been the official vp candidate for how many weeks? not even a month people, weeks.

    if she can't handle the media, how is she going to handle being vp?

    she won't. that's why they're hiding her. they don't want people to figure that out.
    and like that... he's gone.
  • puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    There is a lot of dirt under her carpet?

    Wow C, that's below the belt :D.


    You know, you are so going to hell for that sexist thought. See you in Sizzletown.
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