US fears Israeli strike against Iran over latest nuclear claim

mammasan
mammasan Posts: 5,656
edited November 2007 in A Moving Train
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article2827787.ece
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  • polaris
    polaris Posts: 3,527
    that "wipe off the map" is golden ... priceless tool for the war mongers
  • gabers
    gabers Posts: 2,787
    Is it just me or is Ahmedinejad looking for trouble? I mean he knows that Israel, and in some circles the U.S. is chomping at the bit to bomb the shit out of them, and it's as if he's taunting. "Look at us with our 3,000 centrifuges, isn't that the magic number you minions of Zion?! Come get us you motherless pigs". I'm not sure why he'd publicly discuss these things. So great, he gets more sympathy, more people hating American and Israel, yet his nuclear program, the facilities at least, will be destroyed.
  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    gabers wrote:
    Is it just me or is Ahmedinejad looking for trouble? I mean he knows that Israel, and in some circles the U.S. is chomping at the bit to bomb the shit out of them, and it's as if he's taunting. "Look at us with our 3,000 centrifuges, isn't that the magic number you minions of Zion?! Come get us you motherless pigs". I'm not sure why he'd publicly discuss these things. So great, he gets more sympathy, more people hating American and Israel, yet his nuclear program, the facilities at least, will be destroyed.


    some people say we're playing into his hands if we attack him, that it will cause more U.S. hatred.

    then again, you see him thumbing his nose at everybody and "mocking" them as you say.

    my question is - how much does he care for his people? if he's willing to keep spouting shit until somebody (prob israel) bombs his ass, it doesn't seem as if he gives a damn if his people die.

    the dude is in a holy war against the west and israel.
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    polaris wrote:
    that "wipe off the map" is golden ... priceless tool for the war mongers

    well hell, of course it is.

    that's what he wants..it's his calling.

    so fuck him
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    810wmb wrote:
    some people say we're playing into his hands if we attack him, that it will cause more U.S. hatred.

    then again, you see him thumbing his nose at everybody and "mocking" them as you say.

    my question is - how much does he care for his people? if he's willing to keep spouting shit until somebody (prob israel) bombs his ass, it doesn't seem as if he gives a damn if his people die.

    the dude is in a holy war against the west and israel.

    The thing with Iran is that the majority of the population wants a pro-western style democracy. An attack on Iran would only cause a portion of those people to change their views and side with the Iranian government. We and Israel are doing exactly what he wants us to do which is continue to portray ourselves as the aggressor.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    israel seems very irresponsible...why do we have to babysit them?


    they are a free people with their own military and their own leaders...


    they talk shit in the middle east because they know big brother will back them up.. i think we should tell them they have caused this turmoil themselves by attacking and declaring invasions on bogus causes.
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    for the record... adminejahadlehaddejad seems to want to have control of the middle east...

    what would be his benefit on attacking us or russia or europe... i dont think he has any interest their... his interest is what he is surrounded by... rogue terrorists and an unstable future.. HOW COULD YOU NOT BE PARANOID!!!!
  • spiral out
    spiral out Posts: 1,052
    mammasan wrote:
    The thing with Iran is that the majority of the population wants a pro-western style democracy. An attack on Iran would only cause a portion of those people to change their views and side with the Iranian government. We and Israel are doing exactly what he wants us to do which is continue to portray ourselves as the aggressor.

    Thats becuase the US is the agressor.
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

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  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    mammasan wrote:
    The thing with Iran is that the majority of the population wants a pro-western style democracy. An attack on Iran would only cause a portion of those people to change their views and side with the Iranian government. We and Israel are doing exactly what he wants us to do which is continue to portray ourselves as the aggressor.

    maybe, but he's willing to put his country's people at risk, no sweat off of his ass.
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    810wmb wrote:
    maybe, but he's willing to put his country's people at risk, no sweat off of his ass.

    Well attacking a nuclear facility is not really putting a lot of people at risk. It's not like the US or Israel would bomb civilians sites.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • Kel Varnsen
    Kel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    macgyver06 wrote:

    they talk shit in the middle east because they know big brother will back them up.. i think we should tell them they have caused this turmoil themselves by attacking and declaring invasions on bogus causes.

    Would Israel even need any back up? From what I understand they have one of the best trained armies, and with the manditory military service for men and women it is pretty big. Plus they already have their own nukes.
  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    macgyver06 wrote:
    israel seems very irresponsible...why do we have to babysit them?


    they are a free people with their own military and their own leaders...


    they talk shit in the middle east because they know big brother will back them up.. i think we should tell them they have caused this turmoil themselves by attacking and declaring invasions on bogus causes.

    awww, horseshit
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    Kel Varnsen wrote:
    Would Israel even need any back up? From what I understand they have one of the best trained armies, and with the manditory military service for men and women it is pretty big. Plus they already have their own nukes.

    are you suggesting Israel could defeat Iran?
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    810wmb wrote:
    awww, horseshit


    what is horseshit???
  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    mammasan wrote:
    Well attacking a nuclear facility is not really putting a lot of people at risk. It's not like the US or Israel would bomb civilians sites.


    but it is putting some at risk.

    the flipside - if no civilians are killed, the nukie plants destroyed, wouldn't that make the pro west folks even more pro west?
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    macgyver06 wrote:
    are you suggesting Israel could defeat Iran?

    yes!
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    810wmb wrote:
    yes!

    all by themselves? no U.S. help whatsoever
  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    macgyver06 wrote:
    israel seems very irresponsible...why do we have to babysit them?


    they are a free people with their own military and their own leaders...


    they talk shit in the middle east because they know big brother will back them up.. i think we should tell them they have caused this turmoil themselves by attacking and declaring invasions on bogus causes.

    ok, sorry about the horseshit comment. (i must be getting soft)

    i agree with you...we don't need to baby sit them. let them bomb anyone who screws with them.

    i disagree with the last paragraph
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    macgyver06 wrote:
    all by themselves? no U.S. help whatsoever

    other than supplying the guns and ammo?

    sure.

    but we will always be in there somewhere...they are allies.
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    810wmb wrote:
    other than supplying the guns and ammo?

    sure.

    but we will always be in there somewhere...they are allies.


    810wmb

    im confused

    you said they have a great miltary... but if it is ours... how can they win a war by themselves?

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