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mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
edited November 2007 in A Moving Train
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So let me ask, is Israel the only country in the Middle East allowed to possess nuclear technology? It seems that they have a fucking problem with any other country trying to create or revive their nuclear programs even if their intentions are for energy purposes. Let's see how Israel's lapdog, the US, handles Saudi Arabia and Egypt's attempts to step into the nuclear club.
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  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    they're nuke each other to kingdom come and solver the world's overpopulation problem. good riddance ya fuckin crybabies.
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    soulsinging wrote:
    they're nuke each other to kingdom come and solver the world's overpopulation problem. good riddance ya fuckin crybabies.

    I just find it fucking ridiculous that Israel, the country that secretly created a nuclear weapons program and armed itself with nuclear weapons, is complaining that countries like Egypt and Saudi Arabia want to start or restart nuclear energy programs.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    the curse has already happened and they go by the names


    fat man
    little boy
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    mammasan wrote:
    I just find it fucking ridiculous that Israel, the country that secretly created a nuclear weapons program and armed itself with nuclear weapons, is complaining that countries like Egypt and Saudi Arabia want to start or restart nuclear energy programs.


    because israel know their war mongering, irresponsible, child like behavior WHICH CONTINUES ON THE PRESENT... is nearing an end
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    macgyver06 wrote:
    because israel know their war mongering, irresponsible, child like behavior WHICH CONTINUES ON THE PRESENT... is nearing an end

    I really want to see how our government plays this one out. We always side with our little buddy Israel but we are Saudi Arabia's bitch. Looks like we have found ourselves in a bit of a conundrum.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    mammasan wrote:
    I really want to see how our government plays this one out. We always side with our little buddy Israel but we are Saudi Arabia's bitch. Looks like we have found ourselves in a bit of a conundrum.

    Im thinking we arent doing a damn thing...because we didnt do anything when israel invaded lebanon because of ''2 soldiers''

    ISRAEL still to this day has war ships in Lebanons waters... its been going on for at least a decade... what king of arrogant people would do this!? could you imagine an iran destroyer off the coast of florida..... oooooookkkkkkkkkkkk

    the united states military should stay out of the way.
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    macgyver06 wrote:
    Im thinking we arent doing a damn thing...because we didnt do anything when israel invaded lebanon because of ''2 soldiers''

    ISRAEL still to this day has war ships in Lebanons waters... its been going on for at least a decade... what king of arrogant people would do this!? could you imagine an iran destroyer off the coast of florida..... oooooookkkkkkkkkkkk

    the united states military should stay out of the way.

    Well Lebanon does not sit atop a huge reserve of oil so we really don't give a fuck about them. The Saudi's do.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    its like we broke open a pinata going into baghdad like that... wow.. to bad our senators whoa re runnign for president werent smart enough to know when you play war games anything goes... ignoring all the history and warnings...


    these are the people who are front runners to win the presidency... maybe its time we looked at other candidates


    LIKE MIKE GRAVEL :)
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    mammasan wrote:
    Well Lebanon does not sit atop a huge reserve of oil so we really don't give a fuck about them. The Saudi's do.

    the lebanese are good people
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    macgyver06 wrote:
    the lebanese are good people

    I never said they where not. Lebanon's government was actually very pro-western, until Israel's invasion which only caused the people of Lebenon to view their government as in effective and weak causing a great surge in support for Hezbollah.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • Kel VarnsenKel Varnsen Posts: 1,952
    mammasan wrote:
    http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1192380772105&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

    So let me ask, is Israel the only country in the Middle East allowed to possess nuclear technology? It seems that they have a fucking problem with any other country trying to create or revive their nuclear programs even if their intentions are for energy purposes. Let's see how Israel's lapdog, the US, handles Saudi Arabia and Egypt's attempts to step into the nuclear club.


    The Isralies never signed a treaty saying they wouldn't develop nuclear weapons. Egypt and Saudi Arabia did.
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    mammasan wrote:
    I never said they where not. Lebanon's government was actually very pro-western, until Israel's invasion which only caused the people of Lebenon to view their government as in effective and weak causing a great surge in support for Hezbollah.

    exactly the problem... they are good and do not have an active military

    1.they are peaceful
    2. syria had been banned
    3. u.s. polices the globe but cant seem to find troops to place here? amongst good people.

    they should now pledge allegiance to the only ones that will protect them...israel is a monster!
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    also Ralph Naders parents and relatives still live in Lebanon
  • darthvedder81darthvedder81 Posts: 688
    Israel gets to have nuclear weapons to defend itself because Israel is the only legitimate, civilized democracy in that whole godforsaken region.

    There's your answer right there.
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Kel Varnsen wrote:
    The Isralies never signed a treaty saying they wouldn't develop nuclear weapons. Egypt and Saudi Arabia did.

    Who says that they are developing nuclear weapons. Starting a nuclear energy program does not equate to a country developing nuclear weapons. As long as they conform to IAEA guidelines and rules I don't care who developes a nuclear program.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    darthvedder81 wrote:
    Israel gets to have nuclear weapons to defend itself because Israel is the only legitimate, civilized democracy in that whole godforsaken region.

    There's your answer right there.


    i disagree
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    darthvedder81 wrote:
    Israel gets to have nuclear weapons to defend itself because Israel is the only legitimate, civilized democracy in that whole godforsaken region.

    There's your answer right there.

    So Jordan is not a civilized nation? Egypt is not a civilized nation? Also how is Israel legitimate? I have no problem with the existance of Israel but it is a made up country given to a group of people because of the horrors inflicted on them by the Nazis.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    the daily treatment of palestinians by israeli authorities can be described as anything but civilized ...
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    polaris wrote:
    the daily treatment of palestinians by israeli authorities can be described as anything but civilized ...

    As well as the destruction of Lebanese infastructure over two soldiers.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • puremagicpuremagic Posts: 1,907
    Kel Varnsen wrote:
    The Isralies never signed a treaty saying they wouldn't develop nuclear weapons. Egypt and Saudi Arabia did.


    Yeah and the U.S. doesn't torture. The rules of the world have changed and people around the world don't give a fuck because they see that we the United States of America have become no better than them.
    SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
  • IntothewildIntothewild Posts: 68
    mammasan wrote:
    I just find it fucking ridiculous that Israel, the country that secretly created a nuclear weapons program and armed itself with nuclear weapons, is complaining that countries like Egypt and Saudi Arabia want to start or restart nuclear energy programs.


    Thats because YOU live in........the Garden State and NOT Israel. If your country had been invaded three times by your neighbors wouldn't you NOT want them to have nuclear bombs? How is this so difficult to understand?
  • gue_bariumgue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Intothewild wrote:
    Thats because YOU live in........the Garden State and NOT Israel. If your country had been invaded three times by your neighbors wouldn't you NOT want them to have nuclear bombs? How is this so difficult to understand?
    It isn't really a matter of having nuclear bombs or not anymore. The technology is there for the whole world to use. The nuclear issue isn't an issue if you think in terms of the strategica fearmongera. That is to say folks like Mujumahehahdahhdadh of Iran and the like, who send pleading nonsensical letters to our President in fear of the Bush intention... aren't afraid of nuclear annihilation so much as they are afraid of an Iraq-style bomb and scrape campaign. The nuclear issue is a tool for the masses (Iranian or American) to digest in the way the masses digest all other hyperbolic veiled threats to one's well-being.
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  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    darthvedder81 wrote:
    Israel gets to have nuclear weapons to defend itself because Israel is the only legitimate, civilized democracy in that whole godforsaken region.

    There's your answer right there.

    Define civilized.
  • IntothewildIntothewild Posts: 68
    polaris wrote:
    the daily treatment of palestinians by israeli authorities can be described as anything but civilized ...

    And suicide bombings by Paletinian children on Israeili civillians is? Plenty of blame to go around
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Brown people are lower on the social scale than all other minorities put together.

    Hate to say it, but it is an ethnic scrubbing and reduction in numbers of that race of people.

    Let's just call it what it is.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • IntothewildIntothewild Posts: 68
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Brown people are lower on the social scale than all other minorities put together.

    Hate to say it, but it is an ethnic scrubbing and reduction in numbers of that race of people.

    Let's just call it what it is.

    Not sure which race you are referring to since everyone in the middle east, Israelis included, are brown
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Intothewild wrote:
    Not sure which race you are referring to since everyone in the middle east, Israelis included, are brown

    Israelis? really? I'd like to see some if you can show me.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • IntothewildIntothewild Posts: 68
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Falasha_makstyle.jpg
  • IntothewildIntothewild Posts: 68
    Meant "this dark enough for ya"?
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Intothewild wrote:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Falasha_makstyle.jpg

    and what percentage of Israeli's would you say have that skin color? 95%? 70%

    less than 1%?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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