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mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
edited October 2007 in A Moving Train
Israel says that there is very little time to stop Iran's nuclear ambition

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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    I sincerely hope Iran is doing what it says its doing. (enriching uranium for peaceful purposes). but I can understand why Israel says these type of things. they are a tiny little country surrounded by many countries who wouldn't mind too much if they actually were nuked.

    and maybe, just maybe, Iran is lying. and Israel and/or the US know something the IAEA doesnt. its possible.

    with that said, I really hope there are no preemptive strikes. if so, I'd like to see Israel go at it alone. its their fight.
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I sincerely hope Iran is doing what it says its doing. (enriching uranium for peaceful purposes). but I can understand why Israel says these type of things. they are a tiny little country surrounded by many countries who wouldn't mind too much if they actually were nuked.

    and maybe, just maybe, Iran is lying. and Israel and/or the US know something the IAEA doesnt. its possible.

    with that said, I really hope there are no preemptive strikes. if so, I'd like to see Israel go at it alone. its their fight.

    Even if Iran is bullshitting us the IAEA reported that as of August 2007 Iran was only able to achieve 3.4% enriched uranium using 100 centerfuges. That falls within the 3-4% enrichment range suitable for civilian power usage. In order for uranium to be weapons grade it has to be enriched to at leat 90%. Experts have stated that it would take Iran at least 10 years to build the facilities and enrich enough uranium to 90% in order to have enough material to make one nuclear weapon. So as I was saying even if Iran is developing a nuclear weapons program time is not running out.

    Time is running out for the neo-con zionist who are hell bent on invading Iran because as soon as Bush is out of office all hopes of a pre-emptive strike by the US or backed by the US are pretty much non-existant. Israel knows this so they are going to push their agenda as hard as possible.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    mammasan wrote:
    Even if Iran is bullshitting us the IAEA reported that as of August 2007 Iran was only able to achieve 3.4% enriched uranium using 100 centerfuges. That falls within the 3-4% enrichment range suitable for civilian power usage. In order for uranium to be weapons grade it has to be enriched to at leat 90%. Experts have stated that it would take Iran at least 10 years to build the facilities and enrich enough uranium to 90% in order to have enough material to make one nuclear weapon. So as I was saying even if Iran is developing a nuclear weapons program time is not running out.
    well I'm talking about enrichment going on that IAEA doesnt know about. maybe some secret facility underground somewhere. I'm just playing devil's advocate, hope you understand that. because I completely agree that Iran is defintely a few years out (5-10) of actually being able to make a weapon. otherwise we are just believing all the media propaganda ;)
    mammasan wrote:
    Time is running out for the neo-con zionist who are hell bent on invading Iran because as soon as Bush is out of office all hopes of a pre-emptive strike by the US or backed by the US are pretty much non-existant. Israel knows this so they are going to push their agenda as hard as possible.
    this is true.
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    jlew24asu wrote:
    well I'm talking about enrichment going on that IAEA doesnt know about. maybe some secret facility underground somewhere. I'm just playing devil's advocate, hope you understand that. because I completely agree that Iran is defintely a few years out (5-10) of actually being able to make a weapon. otherwise we are just believing all the media propaganda ;)

    this is true.


    I know your just playing devil's advocate and I have to agree to a point. Do I believe that Iran is being completely honest, HELL NO, but we don't have any proof. We are still years away from Iran being able to develope a nuclear weapon and we should remain ever vigilant. I think a dead give-away would be when they start testing delivery systems. Then we can be assured that they have a nuclear weapons program and can act according from there. Even at that point we would still have a few years before they would be able to threaten us or any other country.

    I think all this premature cock fighting is this administration's and Israel's hard-on over Iran. They want to attacks so bad they can almost taste it.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • gabersgabers Posts: 2,787
    And let us all remember that an attack by Israel would be seen as a proxie attack by us. And it really would be, let's not kid ourselves. We fund, arm, and support the Israeli war machine. I'm not saying Israel doesn't have right to defend themselves; they should. But if our kid brother goes out and beats the shit out of someone then we better be ready for the repurcussions.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    humans develop nuclear weapons... then fight wars to prevent the technology from spreading

    we are a joke, and dont deserve mother natures hospitality
  • Drowned OutDrowned Out Posts: 6,056
    jlew24asu wrote:

    and maybe, just maybe, Iran is lying. and Israel and/or the US know something the IAEA doesnt. its possible.
    .
    Do you honestly believe that if Israel or the American government had any kind of information to prove Iran was lying, that they would keep it quiet?
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    Drowned Out wrote:
    Do you honestly believe that if Israel or the American government had any kind of information to prove Iran was lying, that they would keep it quiet?

    probably not. but it might be similar to the situation when Israel launched air strikes in syria, only a few weeks ago. Israel did that for a reason and didnt say why and syria didnt even complain.

    point is, that there might be some shit they know and wont release it until they can make a proven case that its happening. who really knows.

    like I said, I dont really believe much what I hear. I make my own assumptions and educated guesses. I'm allowed that since I'm not the one making the decision on whether we should strike Iran. personally I do not think we should. I also think Iran is not 100% truthful. and Israel and the US know stuff that we dont. I also believe Iran does in fact, want to use nuclear energy for peaceful purposes. is that the only purpose. i'm skeptical.
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