Report says war on terror is fueling al Qaeda

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  • macgyver06
    macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    MrSmith wrote:
    I'd love to sell my shitty gas guzzling Explorer if anyone wants it. its 11 years old but runs well. i want a regular car.

    you bought the exploder
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I think the war in Iraq is fueling more terrorism then the war on terror.

    it is all going just as planned...

    and according to those in control, there is no difference between the war in iraq and the war on terror... they are one in the same, iraq is just one of the battlefields

    they must laugh at us we are so ignorant and incompetent... much like we laugh at Bush for his fake ignorance and cowboy demeanor... it is all and act that everyone is buying... we are the fucking idiots
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    jlew24asu wrote:
    the US doesnt control oil now. that someone you speak of is OPEC.

    Oh right...of course not...












    (hysterical laughter). :P
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    macgyver06 wrote:
    you bought the exploder

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    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    jlew24asu wrote:
    you should dig a little deeper when posting your own propaganda ;)

    * GM spent more than $1 billion developing the EV1 including significant sums on marketing and incentives to develop a mass market for it.

    * Only 800 vehicles were leased during a four-year period.

    * No other major automotive manufacturer is producing a pure electric vehicle for use on public roads and highways.

    * A waiting list of 5,000 only generated 50 people willing to follow through to a lease.

    * Because of low demand for the EV1, parts suppliers quit making replacement parts making future repair and safety of the vehicles difficult to nearly impossible.

    I'm sure you read this paragraph, too....:)

    The film details the California Air Resources Board's reversal of the mandate after suits from automobile manufacturers, the oil industry, and the George W. Bush administration. It points out that Bush's chief influences, Dick Cheney, Condoleezza Rice, and Andrew Card, are all former executives and board members of oil and auto companies.

    and this:

    The film explores some of the reasons that the auto and oil industries worked to kill off the electric car. Wally Rippel is shown explaining that the oil companies were afraid of losing out on trillions in potential profit from their transportation fuel monopoly over the coming decades, while the auto companies were afraid of losses over the next six months of EV production.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    2 words: Petro Currency.

    Our presence in the Middle East has everything to do with those two words.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    inmytree wrote:
    I'm sure you read this paragraph, too....:)

    The film details the California Air Resources Board's reversal of the mandate after suits from automobile manufacturers, the oil industry, and the George W. Bush administration. It points out that Bush's chief influences, Dick Cheney, Condoleezza Rice, and Andrew Card, are all former executives and board members of oil and auto companies.

    and this:

    The film explores some of the reasons that the auto and oil industries worked to kill off the electric car. Wally Rippel is shown explaining that the oil companies were afraid of losing out on trillions in potential profit from their transportation fuel monopoly over the coming decades, while the auto companies were afraid of losses over the next six months of EV production.

    I'm not disagreeing with you on much of this. but the consumer controls what happens. sure bush and the oil companies can get in the way, but the numbers dont lie. people simply dont buy these cars.
  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Oh right...of course not...












    (hysterical laughter). :P

    you really are 12. nice debating skills.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    mammasan wrote:
    2 words: Petro Currency.

    Our presence in the Middle East has everything to do with those two words.

    2 more words...

    pretty accurate
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I'm not disagreeing with you on much of this. but the consumer controls what happens. sure bush and the oil companies can get in the way, but the numbers dont lie. people simply dont buy these cars.

    everyone could buy a hybrid and it wont matter... everything we produce and consume requires oil... including your keyboard
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun
    LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    macgyver06 wrote:
    you bought the exploder

    its actually the most dependable car i've ever had, though its starting to have problems now.

    i even lived in it for a few months when i went off "to find myself". its a hell of a lot cozier to sleep in than a small car.

    its just it costs too much to fill her up nowadays...
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    I'd like to see companies start packaging all their products in some form of bio (or dramatically petroleum reduced) plastic equivalent.

    So much plastic...everywhere...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • jlew24asu
    jlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    my2hands wrote:
    everyone could buy a hybrid and it wont matter... everything we produce and consume requires oil... including your keyboard

    wow you cant be serious. you really think it will make NO difference if we all drove hybrids cars?? how many barrels of oil does it take to make a keyboard??

    hands your a smart guy, but this is the dumbest thing I have ever heard
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    jlew24asu wrote:
    I'm not disagreeing with you on much of this. but the consumer controls what happens. sure bush and the oil companies can get in the way, but the numbers dont lie. people simply dont buy these cars.

    I hear ya...if GM were allowed to proceed unfettered, who knows what may have happened with these cars...

    personally, I'd love to buy a hybrid....but I can't justify the cost. My old VW Diesel gets about 40 to 45 a gallon, and that works for me...

    when a "new" car becomes more affordable, I may take to plunge, but right now it makes absolutely no sense for me or anyone to by a new car...

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